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Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:43 PM

Is it possible for a man to be "pro-choice"?



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Yes, it is possible for a man to be "pro-choice".
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No, men can support the cause, but they should not call themselves "pro-choice".
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Reply Is it possible for a man to be "pro-choice"? (Original post)
Nye Bevan Jan 2013 OP
Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #1
Flashmann Jan 2013 #2
MrSlayer Jan 2013 #3
yardwork Jan 2013 #8
CTyankee Jan 2013 #11
MrSlayer Jan 2013 #16
CTyankee Jan 2013 #17
MrSlayer Jan 2013 #18
CTyankee Jan 2013 #19
MrSlayer Jan 2013 #22
CTyankee Jan 2013 #23
MrSlayer Jan 2013 #24
CTyankee Jan 2013 #25
MrSlayer Jan 2013 #28
cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #4
fadedrose Jan 2013 #34
Bay Boy Jan 2013 #5
southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #6
closeupready Jan 2013 #15
bowens43 Jan 2013 #7
wryter2000 Jan 2013 #9
LisaLynne Jan 2013 #13
bluestateguy Jan 2013 #10
HERVEPA Jan 2013 #12
DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2013 #21
HERVEPA Jan 2013 #35
War Horse Jan 2013 #14
CTyankee Jan 2013 #32
gollygee Jan 2013 #20
Politicub Jan 2013 #26
etherealtruth Jan 2013 #27
Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #29
Quantess Jan 2013 #30
samsingh Jan 2013 #31
frogmarch Jan 2013 #33

Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:47 PM

1. I think it's possible for men to support the right of women to choice.

The choice however isn't ultimately for men to make, either.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:47 PM

2. Obviously,YES...

I am....Always have been.....

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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:47 PM

3. Nope.

 

Having a penis disqualifies you from having an opinion on the subject at all. That's what I've been told here the past couple of days.

It's kind of nice not to have to care about it anymore. Liberating even.

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:51 PM

8. Link?

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:57 PM

11. I have worked for women's reproductive choice for many years and I have never encountered

the attitude you have described. All the men in my family would describe themselves as pro-choice and we have no problem with it, and indeed think highly of them. Being prochoice means that a man would not interfere with a woman's right to choose, that these decisions are those of individual women.

Your second statement carries a good deal of snark. Why do you carry that around?

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:23 PM

16. Why the snark?

 

A couple reasons. 1) The dismissive attitude toward my opinion on the subject. 2) It's fun.

If I'm not going to be taken seriously simply because of my genitals what's the difference if I take a less than serious attitude about it?

For the record, I am pro-choice. But I do have definite opinions on the use of abortion for gender selection and the like. There have been a few threads on these subjects the past couple days.

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #16)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:33 PM

17. If you are pro-choice you recognize that the woman herself is or should be the ultimate

decision maker on whether or when to have a child. As for sex selection, you can be against a system that pretty much forces women to make a decision to abort on the basis of the fetus's sex. But essentially that view would support, not deny, a woman's choice, by leaving the decision up to her.

I am not sure what you mean, then, about your opinions on use of abortion for sex selection. Are you saying that a woman should NOT have that option by law, or you simply deplore a woman's decision to abort for that reason?

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:46 PM

18. I wouldn't interfere with it.

 

Because a restriction in that circumstance leads to restrictions on legitimate reasons to leep it legsl. But I reject the notion that it's perfectly fine to do so. Yes, I deplore the idea. To me, it's against the spirit of why it's legal. "Legal, safe and rare" is the mantra, terminating simply because you don't like the gender is not in that spirit. I find it repulsive.

But, again, I am pro-choice even if it means having to accept the truly ugly sides of it.

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #18)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:01 PM

19. I really don't know how prevalent this is here in the U.S. I certainly don't know of any woman

doing it, at least when I worked for a family planning clinic that did abortions it never came up as a reason women gave for opting for abortion. I know that there have been various theories about increasing the odds of conceiving a female or a male but not any actual instances of women seeking an abortion after finding out the sex of her fetus (not in China or India).


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Response to CTyankee (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:10 PM

22. I don't know either.

 

But I would hope the percentage was very, very low. I have read about it being somewhat commonplace in Scandinavia where it's a deliberate decision rather than forced as it is in China and other places.

Regardless, I just find it to be a really shitty reason to have an abortion. I don't have to think it's acceptable or just keep quiet about it simply because I'm not a woman or will never be pregnant. That's all I'm saying.

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #22)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:24 PM

23. I can recommend to you the Alan Guttmacher Institute, which studies reproductive issues and is

considered the premier research organization used by city and state health departments all over the country. They do research on abortions in countries all over the world.

My guess is that the pro-choice movement in this country suspects that the "sex selection for abortion" is really a "wedge" issue in the attempt to curtail any abortions.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #23)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:35 PM

24. That's why I wouldn't do anything about it.

 

Because, as I said, they would use that restriction as an excuse to start doing more and more.

Can't give them an inch.

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #24)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:45 PM

25. well, my point also is that the anti-choicers make a big deal about the Sweden thing without

really offering any verifiable proof. So they blow this thing up to make people think this is really, really a common reason that women have abortions.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #25)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:56 PM

28. I'm sure they do.

 

They'll do anything to outlaw it, underhanded or not. But then they are the same exact people that will tell those forced birth children to starve to death if the parent(s) can't afford to feed them. No mooching you know, the rich need that money for a second yacht or seventh home.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:48 PM

4. Anyone voting no needs a dictionary, civics class... something

This is like asking whether a person in New York could have been a proponent of building the Hoover Dam.

Pro-choice is a value enshrined or undermined in LAW.

LAWS are made by both men and women.


Why not ask whether a free person can be anti-slavery? It's the same question.

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Response to cthulu2016 (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:28 PM

34. I voted No

and without looking in a dictionary, I know men who don't want children, never wanted children, and are happy without them. They figure there must be women who don't want them either who don't want to join a convent and don't want to live without sex.

These same men admire women who are good mothers and love their kids.

I call that pro-choice in my world.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:49 PM

5. A man can and should be pro-choice

we just don't get much say in the matter

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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:49 PM

6. Everyone is pro-choice

 

You have a choice to choose abortion or you have a choice to choose not to have an abortion. We have to stop saying pro this or anti this because we all have a choice.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:15 PM

15. Agreed.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:50 PM

7. Of course

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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:51 PM

9. Of course

This is getting a bit disturbing. There are plenty of good men here. I don't see why they have to be belittled when 'they're more than willing to let the not-so-good ones know when they're being not-so-good.

I'm a woman, btw, and a feminist. As far as I'm concerned, men can't be women (and experience sexism directly), but they can be feminists. (Should have posted this in the other thread.)

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:03 PM

13. Very well said.

Just like with racial divides. As a white person, I will never know what it is to really experience the type of racism that goes on in this country directly, but I can certainly support equality for all.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:55 PM

10. I knew a guy in college who was pro-abortion (his words)

He was an ultra conservative and seemed to support eugenics and social Darwinism. His view was more abortions by poor women meant fewer people on welfare that his taxes would have to support.

I also think he called himself pro-abortion because if he ever got a girl pregnant he would demand that she get an abortion, lest he have any financial responsibility.

Yeah, real prize he was, and he transferred to another school the next year.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:01 PM

12. If Imay ask, why such a ridiculous question with an obvious answer?

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Response to HERVEPA (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:05 PM

21. There's been assertion here the last couple of days that men cannot be feminists

I suspect the OP is mirroring that argument.

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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #21)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 02:12 AM

35. OK. Thanks

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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:06 PM

14. Still coming to terms w/the fact that I can't be a feminist ;)

But I'm pretty sure I can still be pro-choice.

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Response to War Horse (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:21 PM

32. Well, here's a female feminist who says you certainly CAN be a feminist! all the men in my

family are feminists, and proudly so. They wouldn't have it any other way and neither would their female partners/wives.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:05 PM

20. What kind of question is this?

Of course it is. This has nothing to do with your other poll. This is stupid.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:46 PM

26. Absolutely. For men, a pro choice position is leaving all decision making about pregnancy to women

And, supporting legislation that preserves the rights of women to make their own decisions about their bodies.

Pretty simple, really.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:52 PM

27. Of course it is ...

Sadly, a womens right to control her own body and reproductive health is a political issue (it shouldn't be, but it is) .... as such, we need support of all people!

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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:57 PM

29. of course

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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:07 PM

30. This is possibly the dumbest OP I've ever seen...

...this week, anyway.

This is stupid, boneheaded, unwilling-to-understand, WAAAAAH garbage.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:16 PM

31. i support a woman's right to choose what she wants to do with her body

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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:27 PM

33. Yes! Absolutely!

Mr. froggy and our two sons are all pro-choice. I know other men who are too.

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