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Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:35 AM

Rich people find a new reason to stiff servers?



I'm not sure if this alleged "tip" left for a server, somewhere, is a hoax or the real thing, but it has stirred up a lot of controversy on the Web. If this story - most recently posted on the boing boing website - is to be believed, a presumably wealthy patron left, instead of cash, a slip of paper stating: "As a direct result of Proposition 30 and President Obama's insistance that I pay "MY FAIR SHARE IN TAXES," I find that I must cut back on discretionary spending and gratuities. I wish it didn't have to be this way for both of us."

As a young waiter, I was notorious for throwing tip trays - coins and all - back at stingy customers as they were walking out the door of a restaurant. Not a very endearing habit, and I soon came to my senses. There are always going to be customers, rich and poor, who don't like to tip and find many excuses not to do it. That includes my late Uncle Bill, who had lots of money and never, ever left more than a 5 percent tip. Even as a teenager, I would hang back after he paid the tab to add a couple of bucks to the tip tray. Bill's excuse? "I was a child of the Depression. In those days, a waiter was lucky to get a dime." It wasn't worth arguing with him. That Depression story was his mantra every time he opened his fat wallet.

That being said, as a waiter, I did get quite a few embarrassingly pathetic tips from a few of Kansas City's wealthiest citizens. No names mentioned.

I asked waiter and blogger David Hayden (who had his own post on this subject on his Restaurant Laughs Facebook page) yesterday if he believed this story to be true.

"Yes, I think it could be," Hayden says. "I think there's a general feeling from a lot of people in this person's position in regards to the changes in the tax laws. But as long as servers are being paid less than the minimum wage, they are subsidizing the cost of dishes on the menu. If someone wanted to protest costs at a restaurant, they should order less expensive meals rather than take it out on the servers."

Why is it that no one seems to complain about paying a salesperson's commission in retail sales, but the gratuity that a server earns for providing excellent service - which involves salesmanship, a sense of both theater and subtlety, tact, wisdom and grace - is sometimes a bone of contention? If I received that piece of paper instead of my rightful tip, I'd be back throwing tip trays again.

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Reply Rich people find a new reason to stiff servers? (Original post)
proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 OP
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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:38 AM

1. Then the POS shouldn't go out to eat

That server earns $2 an hour and needs those tips to survive. What a scumbag.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:35 AM

40. As a server, I'd remember these people and "despoil" their entree...

I think that's a word....

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:31 AM

83. I *STILL* can't fucking believe

it's legal to pay servers less than minimum wage. That is criminal.
I'm in Canada, in an area where the economy is booming and server's wages are at LEAST 2-5$/hour OVER minimum wage. And most people still tip 15-20%.

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Response to laundry_queen (Reply #83)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:16 AM

85. Completely agree

It's a scandal, truly appalling.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:40 AM

2. "Tip Scooper" ?

Definitely a lower form of life. Live in the penthouse, belong in the outhouse.

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Response to Mopar151 (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:41 AM

10. Yes

 

On the receiving end of the shit!

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:40 AM

3. The most enraging ones are the group of little old ladies who run your ass ragged for two hours

And leave a religious pamphlet as a "tip".

YMMV naturally.

Of course most of these have turned out to be fake when investigated.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:41 AM

4. "It's only fair. For all 8 years that Bush was President, I was sticking your spoon in my ass"

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:29 AM

82. LOL

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:49 AM

5. As someone who used to work service

back in the day, the rule is simple...if you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to go out.

But if it's a rich asshat trying to make some nebulas point to the "poors", well, he should get a tray thrown at him.

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Response to Beearewhyain (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:17 AM

14. That's my rule, too.

If for some reason I'm in a situation where I'm hungry but I can't afford to tip, I eat fast food. If I went to a restaurant and knew I wasn't going to tip the server, I wouldn't be able to enjoy my meal.

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Response to LuvNewcastle (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:14 AM

21. And if a coupon is used, one should tip for the the cost

of the meal would have been. I can't stand stingy customers...and no, we are not servers.

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Response to Beearewhyain (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:58 AM

29. I agree.

If I can't afford a 20% tip, I go to a drive thru or eat at home.


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Response to Beearewhyain (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:52 AM

44. and good management would back you up

by following the customer to the door and asking "Was everything okay? Was there a problem with your server or the food? Did you forget anything? Are you sure ...?"

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:59 AM

6. The "aggrieved-taxpaying tipper" . . .

Was clearly (if real) a jerk. The notion that 'increasing taxes' would render you unable to pay a tip, but still able to afford to eat out is just preposterous. And deliberately provocative as if the tipper is convinced that waiters and waitresses must be Obama voters and hence should be punished.

That having been said, I'm not a very big tipper myself. I can't bring myself to believe that tipping has anything to do with good service. For me, it's an unavoidable custom as well as an uncomfortable acknowledgment that restaurant owners abuse their employees and are allowed to get away with it. I give grudgingly.

I much prefer the system where I'm living now Australia where you don't tip at all, and instead, employers pay wait staff a living wage. Restaurant food is much more expensive here, but it isn't served with the stink of injustice that I smell in the States.

And the quality of the service is comparable.

If I were in the food service business, I'd be agitating to get owners to pay the real costs of their business and incorporate it in their business model and not pretend that the uncertain charity of strangers is a legitimate component of their employees' compensation.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:07 AM

7. and what could this person be trying to say

by writing this long expose' on gratuity and the degradation of the wealthy? Of course if the reason is sharing his deep despair over having to pay more taxes, it backfired miserably. The other possibility is she/he is just pissing on the lower caste to get even for not getting what she/he wanted from the elections.

Oh, the poor misunderstood rich. Misery upon misery.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:17 AM

8. If you can't afford to leave a decent tip than you're to poor to be eating out except at a fast

food place.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:32 AM

9. Just remember

someone making over $400,000 a year left this note. That's the level at which the "fair share" tax starts. What an asshole.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:48 AM

11. "I did get quite a few embarrassingly pathetic tips...

...from a few of Kansas City's wealthiest citizens."

I can only imagine!

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:52 AM

12. Translation:

"I'm cheap. I'm not going to tip you no matter what my tax rate is."

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Response to nyquil_man (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:10 AM

48. I was thinking similarly.

Though I was imagining it to read this way:

"I've just found an excellent way to legitimize being cheap."

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:02 AM

13. In Switzerland, where I have lived for the past 19 years, food prices in restaurants

are comparatively higher than in the US. The Swiss explicitly chose, via referendum, to eschew a "tipping" system in favor of a decent wage for these services that includes benefits such as health care, pension and vacation benefits for all restaurant workers. The custom is that, if one has received good service, one might "round up" the total a couple CHF extra and most generally do this, but there is no expectation of such.

Somehow, I do not see this idea catching on in the US. But it would certainly be more fair.

Again, the One Percent hit the most vulnerable, showing their true colors as the selfish bullies they are.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:52 AM

26. it would be much saner to just pay people a living wage and bag the tipping system...

but here in America, we don't do sane. We're exceptional that way.

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Response to phantom power (Reply #26)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:16 PM

71. I agree totally.

You'll love this anecdote. I needed an electrician last week, not for an emergency, but to replace a switch that wasn't working. When I called the company, they told me that most of their electricians were still on vacation (imagine!), but scheduled me for an afternoon visit today.

When the electrician got here, I mentioned that I had heard that he was on vacation last week and asked whether he had enjoyed it. He answered that yes, indeed, he had and added that he had spent one week on the island of Reunion and another in Mauritius.

This is one of the regular blue-collar workers! I think it is wonderful that they have time not only to afford what their family needs but to have leisure to enjoy life and to be able to visit exotic places. Many white-collar workers in the US can't even afford that!

At the same time, today I heard that in the UK the Tory government is cutting the starting pay of the police force - those people who are paid to risk their lives on a daily basis to keep everyone safe. WTF?

I remember when American workers were the envy of the world. Now they are among those to be pitied - at least in industrial nations other than the UK. And at least in the UK, they have national health care.

But yes, we ARE exceptional.



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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:10 PM

58. Man...how can I be an expat in Switzerland?

Visited a few years ago...man what a beautiful place! Mind if I ask what city you're in? I visited Zurich.

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Response to didact (Reply #58)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:06 PM

70. Hi -

I live near Geneva. And yes, it is beautiful here.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #70)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:22 PM

74. If I hit the powerball I'm getting a place there ASAP!...

I think they do have pretty strict land/home purchase restrictions for foreigners though.

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Response to didact (Reply #74)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:03 AM

79. Yes, there are some very strict purchase restrictions.

The most daunting obstacles are the prices. Whew!








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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:37 AM

15. any restaurant thats pays servers 2 something an hour should

include a minimum gratuity in the bill.....!!

their the ones counting on servers getting tips, right?
only thing is make it clear on the check that there is a minimum percentage included, whatever it may be, hopefully around 10 percent, so people don't get confused...

also the image is very "hoax"-y looking...

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:50 AM

16. Passive aggressive is a defect.

Someone has it. They should seek help.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:56 AM

17. Make no mistake- that's a person and direct hit, intentionally, at people who make low wages

because the conservatives identify low wage people as being Democratic/Liberal leaning.

It's a very direct attack.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:25 AM

18. Translated: Since I can't steal your money via a rigged tax system anymore,

I am going to make you work for me for free. Because I am ENTITLED to far more than you people.

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Response to wildeyed (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:36 AM

64. Yeah, I thought, "overentitled son of a bitch" when I saw this

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:53 AM

19. Workers get screwed one way or another.

You give decent or good service, you get a card and minimum hourly wages.

You expect to get stiffed and you give minimal service, the patron will dedicate him/herself to getting you fired.

If I were management and more than one of these cards were brought to me, I'd change the policy and include the 15% tip as a mandatory charge along with any sales tax.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:54 AM

20. I've heard that the worst tippers are rich fucks and fundamentalist Christians.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #20)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:06 AM

31. Fundies are bad. "The Rich" as a class, are pretty reasonable

I say that because "The Rich" usually balance out. I worked busing tables a a country club when I was 15. I got tipped out by most of the servers, and they talk about this sort of stuff, so you can develop a pretty good idea without having served at a high end place like the CC restaurant (although eventually I worked in practically every aspect of food service).

I'd say about 70% of the folks dining at the Country Club tipped within 5% of 20% (so 15-25% was average). From there, I'd say 18% tipped abnormally high and 12% abnormally low to zero. Most of the servers working there agreed that it balanced out. The "bad" was usually when a server would get an 8-top of lingerers which might be their only table for 2 hours and then have that table tip 5% on a 400 dollar bill.

EASILY, BY FAR the worst tipping occurred on Sunday Lunch/Brunch shifts. And we're not talking fundies generally. They are, moreover WASPS. In Texas (where I worked) I'd guess an 80-20 mix of Baptists/Catholics and "other WASP." High end restaurants don't get a lot of Fundies because fundies are usually don't have the bank to eat there.

There are a lot of sub-groups that tip badly, especially at high end places. "Lunch Ladies" or "Ladies who Lunch" who come in, order a Caesar Salad and linger over glasses of cheap white Zin (because they have no actual wine palette). Run a server ragged, linger for 3 hours, talk about their hell spawn (or worse, bring them) and tip 10%.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #20)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:22 PM

60. According to the VT Park Rangers

Church groups are the WORST. Our hillclimb series/sports car club events rate pretty well with them, because we deliberately take it easy on the rangers, self-police, and pick up any piece of litter we see. Food and beverages for rangers, resort staff, renta-cops/constables are just good social engineering

The fundies whine about everything, quibble over nickels (VT Parks are self supporting, so firewood costs, showers take quarters, day use fee ($2-) for day guests, etc.). The kids are sneaky little monsters.......

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:37 PM

73. And repukes

obviously a great deal of overlap there.

I once arrived in New Orleans right after the 1988 RNC. On my way in from the airport, the cabbie was complaining that his tips that last week were the worst he'd ever had.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:18 AM

22. Funny, they've never needed an excuse before. nt

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Response to wtmusic (Reply #22)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:38 AM

65. Hah! good one!

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:29 AM

23. A decent tip is part of the expense of eating out

if you can't afford a good tip, you need to stay home to eat. Jerk.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:37 AM

24. Asshole bullies always take their aggression out on the target they perceive

as the least resistant. In this case, it's who they see as being as the lowest ranking member of the socio-economic food chain.

Classic "kiss up, kick down" mentality!

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:48 AM

25. Same As It Ever Was

Just a new trick by cheap mother fuckers.

If you don't have enough money to tip, you don't have enough money to eat at a restaurant that has servers coming to your table.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:53 AM

27. I'm wondering if it's really a good idea to piss on the people who touch your food

before you do, especially if one likes to frequent the same restaurants.

Wait staff have long memories and I live in a small town. We go to our favorite restaurant at least once weekly. Our very generous tips insure us great service and extra attention to detail... and genuine smiles and shared laughter from our servers. I say "genuine" because they know they won't be stiffed at the end of our meal.

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Response to tavernier (Reply #27)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:11 AM

33. I Worked in Food Service

For about 10 years and I only saw one incident when food was intentionally made unsafe by a cook. I don't think it happens as much as the movies would have you believe.

You're right though, that servers do provide the best service to those they know will tip well. I'm always amazed by how few patrons realize that they play 50% (at least) of the role in when it comes to whether their dining out experience will be good or bad.

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Response to NeedleCast (Reply #33)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:32 AM

38. Of course... I was speaking figuratively.

All the cooks I've ever met take great pride in their dishes, and the servers in their hospitality. You can't work long in that business without loving what you are doing. But, just like anywhere else in life, the quality of your service is in direct proportion to how you treat your server. That's just human nature.

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Response to NeedleCast (Reply #33)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:39 AM

66. That's really too bad

Bad behavior deserves bad food.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:55 AM

28. That's fine, but then there ought to be gratuities included

in the total price of the meal, as is done in Europe - 20% is a good number.

Then, if they don't pay, law enforcement can get involved.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #28)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:09 AM

32. I've always thought that would be best

but find that in the US, even servers who it would probably benefit the most often hate "autograt" where a tip is included in the price of the meal.

I think it's almost like an ingrained badge of honor thing here in the states. A server would rather roll the dice on having a good night and bring home an extra 40 bucks on their average even though they understand they're also risking coming in 40 dollars under average.

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Response to NeedleCast (Reply #32)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:05 AM

47. I think for the good ones

 

It would be a huge pay cut.

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Response to librabear (Reply #47)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:40 AM

67. If service is good, I tip over the gratuity included

But, that could be because I was a waitress for a while as a young woman.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:02 AM

30. Take their picture

and make them famous. Send it around to all area restaurants and then dare them to show their face and eat the food prepared by people making minimum wage or less.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:13 AM

34. If the note was actually left ...

I doubt it was left by a "wealthy" customer - from my experience, most "wealthy" customers are not pricks. Rather, I suspect it was left by an ideologically-driven, working class rightwinger ... who expects to be wealthy, just as soon as the government gets off his/her back, so that he/she can develop the next MicroSoft (in his/her mom's basement), or just be discovered for the genius that he/she is.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #34)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:24 AM

35. That's my personal experience, too.

In my experience, most rich people are actually quite fun, pleasant, and engaging. Not a hard and fast rule, but in general, it's my experience.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #35)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:42 AM

42. In my youth ...

I went to a prep school where the median household income of students was about 200% of the regional MI. (I know this from having done a economics project). Most of the families were "Old Money" wealthy, i.e., more than 2 generation; whereas, a hand full were "New Money",i.e., their parents made the money.

From personal observation, the "Old Money" crowd were more tolerable ... they were the kids that didn't care about the status stuff, like clothes, cars, making displays of outrageous spending (though they ALL had the clothes, the cars and spent like ... well ... millionaires); whereas, the "New Money" crowd were the obnoxious group, flaunting their (parent's) money.

Being the (relatively) poor kid (both my parents were Civil Servants) ... I saw that the "New Money" kids trying to spend to fit in and the "Old Money" kids, laughing at them.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #34)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:34 AM

39. this part is too funny

who expects to be wealthy, just as soon as the government gets off his/her back, so that he/she can develop the next MicroSoft (in his/her mom's basement),


thanks for the giggle.

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Response to 2pooped2pop (Reply #39)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:00 AM

46. Not a problem ...

that comes from an actual conversation I had with a rightwinger.

He insisted that government over-reach was the reason he couldn't bring his revolutionary product idea to market. I don't recall what the product was; but when he explained it to me, I didn't have a "IBD" (I'll Be Damned) moment, but rather a "WTF" (Why The F ... would anyone want that) moment.

But anyway, after talking with him for a couple of minutes, it became clear, he had done no market testing of the idea, had not built a product mock-up/proto-type, nor had he done anything to develop the product, other than to think about how rich he would be, if the government would just get off his back.

When questioned about how the government was holding him back, he stated "taxes were too high" ... He had been unemployed for more than 2 years; he indicated government regulations ... he could not point to any regulation that touched him or his product; he pointed to ... get this ... the Senate's failure to pass a budget and failure to bring the gop "jobs plan" to a vote.

I walked away feeling really sorry for this guy.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #46)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:35 PM

49. Wow, that's funny and extremely sad.

I find that I just can't tolerate talking to them any longer. I don't know how you made it through that without calling him a freaking idiot.

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Response to 2pooped2pop (Reply #49)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:39 PM

50. He's a ...

close friend of a friend ... and he was buying the beer.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #46)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:04 PM

55. That's the kind of person who absolutely never takes personal responsibility for anything.

It's all someone else's fault.

I've known too many people like that, or encountered them at various times, and you can't even have a sensible exchange on anything at all, because they're too busy spewing blame on all sorts of people for all sorts of things.

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #55)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:56 PM

62. These are people with a very externalized locus of control.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #46)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:43 PM

61. They hate "losers", so they have to rationalize when they are themselves "losers"

Sounds like he made himself the persecuted genius in his own mind to avoid the cognitive dissonance.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #34)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 02:58 AM

69. Another "Joe" the "Plumber", sounds like.

Remember he was "about to" buy a business worth hundreds of thousands a year?

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:27 AM

36. If that person 'must cut back' then he/she shouldn't be eating out

if you're going to eat out be prepared to tip the right way or don't eat out at all.

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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #36)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:49 PM

51. + 1,000.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:32 AM

37. I'm sure that once this tipper is recognized

they will enjoy many a spit cocktail in subsequent visits. You get what you pay for, I guess.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:40 AM

41. I saw this on DOTD

and most think it's a hoax.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:43 AM

43. I take it as a mean-spirited and stupid political act.

They think the "lower classes" will come to see that Obama's re-election has hurt them, so they won't be so foolish as to vote for another Democrat.

As usual, they assume the "Underclass" is stupid and easily manipulated, and will blame Obama for the absence of the tip.

I say any rich fuck who leaves a note like that is pushing the rage of the workers just one more little step toward boiling over, the rage will not be directed at the progressives, and the rich fucks won't like the eventual consequences.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:53 AM

45. I want to see them try that note in a strip club. n/t

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:55 PM

52. I'd bet lunch that the person who left this

is not rich in the slightest.

He's just one of the rubes who keep saying Obama raised their taxes.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:59 PM

53. Good grief!

What an ass!

To be fair, people of all economic backgrounds regularly stiff the waitstaff.

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #53)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:48 AM

68. But without the haughty explanation

That's the bigger asshole part of this.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:00 PM

54. Time to have mandatory gratuity or increase the meal cost and pay a living wage

instead of having people rely on jackasses like the one creating this story.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:23 PM

56. Saw this on the internet? Oh! It must be true then....

 

I'll get all outraged about it and stuff now....

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:45 PM

57. For about 2 weeks, I worked as a server in my former boyfriend's

seafood restaurant in Miami. I had been laid off my job and was planning a move here to the Atlanta area. His waitress quit and he was desperate for help. So, since I had nothing better to do at the time, I agreed to fill in until he hired someone. Well. I had never done that type of work, and I will never do it again. Most customers left decent-sized tips. One family came in with about 5 children, left the table a mess and did not even leave a tip. I do not know how servers can put up with that job.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:19 PM

59. I have asked some servers about this,

Including at the True Food Kitchen in Newport where the 1% "Get a real Job" hoax tip was supposedly left and they pretty much all said the only particular group that consistently leave terrible tips are college students and the occasional stereotypical foreign tourist.

I have done it exactly twice in my entire life, and in neither case were we actually "served".

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Response to Sen. Walter Sobchak (Reply #59)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:22 PM

78. Things may have changed

When I was a dishwasher back in 1974, the servers at the chain restaurant I worked in told me that families were the worst tippers (and the biggest messes to clean up) and dating couples were the best, but that was back when the guy was expected to pick up the check, and he wanted to make an impression on his date.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:29 PM

63. I read that and thought, wow they must love the taste of spit

Not being in the food service industry, I think I'll show my solidarity by throwing my drink into anyone's face if I see them doing this. Which will immediately be followed with loudly slapping a $20 on their table for their server.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:29 PM

72. not sure if this is a hoax or not

but it seems to have come from this KC restaraunt:



The Pitch? Any good? I ALWAYS tip twenty percent down the line regardless of how I perceive the food server's politics to be.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:28 PM

75. Unbelievable how many people treat internet hoaxes as real.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:43 PM

76. My taxes should go up considerably

because my income is all investment income.

However, I would never stiff a server, not unless they sassed me and dropped hot food in my lap without provocation.

Service has to be pretty bad and 100% the server's fault for me to tip under 20%.

Serving is damned hard work. I lasted three weeks at it. I didn't know I had RA. I just knew I couldn't cope.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:20 PM

77. My next tip

may well include a bottle of water in addition to the money. I'd like them to have plenty of saliva ready for the asshats who leave this sort of shit.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:38 AM

80. Cheap bastards nt

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:48 AM

81. It's a very direct slam against lowincome people the douche perceives to be liberal by virtue

that they are low income. It's really just a form of bullying.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:40 AM

84. Lousy Mitt Romney!!!!

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