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OMG: FOX - Men armed with assault rifles walk through Portland to 'educate' public

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Men armed with assault rifles walk through Portland to 'educate' public on gun rights
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/10/men-armed-with-assault-rifles-walk-through-portland-to-educate-public-on-gun/#ixzz2HdLS2MPm

Two men seen walking down a Portland street armed with assault rifles told police they were exercising their Second Amendment rights and hoping to educate the public on gun rights.

Several calls were made to 911 on Wednesday afternoon, with alarmed residents reporting two men with guns strapped to their backs walking through the area of Southeast Seventh Avenue and Spokane Street in Portland's Sellwood neighborhood.

When police arrived on the scene, they found two 22-year-old men carrying rifles openly on their backs. The two were also holding valid concealed handgun licenses in Oregon ...

.... The Portland Police Bureau, however, asks anyone who sees someone armed with guns to immediately call 911.

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OMG: FOX - Men armed with assault rifles walk through Portland to 'educate' public (Original post)	Coyotl	Jan 2013	OP
I can see two objectives which are about to clash for the Republican party.	Baitball Blogger	Jan 2013	#1
There are a lot of no gun areas today. Schools, for example!!	Coyotl	Jan 2013	#2
I'm referring to places of business.	Baitball Blogger	Jan 2013	#20
Depending on your state, you can tell	Recursion	Jan 2013	#29
It's a good idea. I doubt Florida will be one of those states. But it's a good idea.	Baitball Blogger	Jan 2013	#30
Florida prohibits concealed carry in these locations	Recursion	Jan 2013	#37
"place of nuisance"	Voice for Peace	Jan 2013	#108
Houses of ill repute	Recursion	Jan 2013	#110
Thank you so much for this info!	Baitball Blogger	Jan 2013	#133
Dallas TX	adieu	Jan 2013	#121
Anybody comes into my veterinary hospital with a gun, they'd	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#154
Not in Utah!	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#120
Utah is in a class of its own nt	siligut	Jan 2013	#164
Almost any public building is a gun free area (nt)	Recursion	Jan 2013	#9
People with concealed permits don't take their guns there?	Baitball Blogger	Jan 2013	#21
Generally not. Property owners override concealed carry, for the most part	Recursion	Jan 2013	#26
I'm coming to the dialogue late, but, I'll pick it up quickly.	Baitball Blogger	Jan 2013	#35
NO we don't	Berserker	Jan 2013	#41
Is an "assault rifle strapped to their back" a "concealed carry"? What's concealed about that?	SharonAnn	Jan 2013	#162
Depending on where you live....	ManiacJoe	Jan 2013	#23
True	Recursion	Jan 2013	#28
One of my company's headquarters (in Houston) . . .	MrModerate	Jan 2013	#123
LOL!	Baitball Blogger	Jan 2013	#134
There's a lot of guys who want to live in the wild west not a civilized society	TeamPooka	Jan 2013	#150
What if someone wanted to stand their ground and exercise 2nd Amendment remedies	muntrv	Jan 2013	#3
First they would have to attack you or otherwise	ManiacJoe	Jan 2013	#25
I think it's pretty reasonable to fear . . .	MrModerate	Jan 2013	#124
No, you would not find many.	ManiacJoe	Jan 2013	#127
And I take it this doesn't meet the test . . .	MrModerate	Jan 2013	#163
He might, but doing so is not illegal.	ManiacJoe	Jan 2013	#166
Sigh. Probably just as well . . .	MrModerate	Jan 2013	#167
How is walking around with an assault rifle	octoberlib	Jan 2013	#4
It teaches peoiple to immediately call 911.	Coyotl	Jan 2013	#5
And what if other armed citizens saw them and shot first	nobodyspecial	Jan 2013	#6
It seems like utter stupidity to me.	Coyotl	Jan 2013	#7
Police officer said 911 calls are for "real emergencies".	pacalo	Jan 2013	#8
Two people peacefully and trollishly exercising their rights is not, in fact, an emergency	Recursion	Jan 2013	#10
If the peace is disturbed, it's disturbing the peace.	Robb	Jan 2013	#11
It's astonishing how often that argument is used to suppress...	Demo_Chris	Jan 2013	#27
Hey, thanks for joining DU right after Newtown.	Robb	Jan 2013	#39
Bwah	Recursion	Jan 2013	#40
So	Lurker Deluxe	Jan 2013	#136
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service:	Ptah	Jan 2013	#138
The Portland Police Bureau, however, asks anyone who sees someone armed with guns to call 911.	Coyotl	Jan 2013	#12
Yeah. I've lived in East Mississippi and in DC	Recursion	Jan 2013	#17
If I saw two people walking the street with assault rifles	Art_from_Ark	Jan 2013	#102
No one wants to see something like that in their neighborhood or other populated setting.	pacalo	Jan 2013	#15
Well, like I said in #17, I've lived in neighborhoods where that is and isn't true	Recursion	Jan 2013	#31
I wouldn't want to live anywhere in which it's a common thing to see.	pacalo	Jan 2013	#36
de gustibus non est disputandum	Recursion	Jan 2013	#38
To each his own. Exactly.	pacalo	Jan 2013	#44
if it was Black or Brown guys doing this the gun nuts defending this would be the first ones to	JI7	Jan 2013	#55
Interesting thing. Remember that teabagger who was open carrying his rifle at protests?	Recursion	Jan 2013	#59
that was still a protests, but if a group of black or brown guys just started walking down the	JI7	Jan 2013	#66
Yeah. California was fine and dandy with open carry until the BPP started doing it	Recursion	Jan 2013	#67
minorities are stopped when driving for no reason, look at Trayvon	JI7	Jan 2013	#70
Bullshit	theKed	Jan 2013	#75
Here's an interview with him	Recursion	Jan 2013	#76
If I see two assholes walking around with assault rifles, I'm calling the cops and giving the	Ed Suspicious	Jan 2013	#57
Screw that-- these needle-dick yahoos are playing with fire...	VOX	Jan 2013	#74
considering it was my kids preschool that got locked down and I got the call about men armed with	boomer55	Jan 2013	#94
I think 911 is a pretty good call here.	DanTex	Jan 2013	#141
If I make a bad joke to a TSA dude at the airport, they lock me up	Last Stand	Jan 2013	#14
This message was self-deleted by its author	pacalo	Jan 2013	#22
If they were African-Americans, it would have been a "real 911 emergency"	jpak	Jan 2013	#135
But a person can be non aggressive until they reach their target and then all hell will	appleannie1	Jan 2013	#152
Exactly! No one knows another person's state of mind or purpose.	pacalo	Jan 2013	#161
The last time I saw anybody openly carrying	nadinbrzezinski	Jan 2013	#13
Ha, my battalion did that. Commercial flight and everything.	Recursion	Jan 2013	#18
I am	Puha Ekapi	Jan 2013	#16
"We are not threatening anyone."	Geodude	Jan 2013	#19
Whom are they threatening, and with what?	Recursion	Jan 2013	#24
What if they were exercising their 2nd Amendment Right in Newtown, CT?	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#42
They're big enough assholes for doing this in Portland	Recursion	Jan 2013	#45
"and, yes, that would be worse."	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#52
Well, I hope you never have to bury a child, personally	Recursion	Jan 2013	#54
I could give a shit about WBC	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#60
It's two cases of distasteful political speech	Recursion	Jan 2013	#62
reread my comment...please answer honestly.	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#64
Oh, I have no idea what my attitude would be	Recursion	Jan 2013	#65
Really? Seriously?	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#72
How I would feel and think	Recursion	Jan 2013	#99
So you'd be OK with someone gunning down your kids.	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#109
Given that that's the opposite of what I said, no	Recursion	Jan 2013	#111
Lets assume CT had open carry.	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#114
Well, CT not having open carry certainly didn't seem to help	Recursion	Jan 2013	#116
That is false.	Alisi	Jan 2013	#148
How is anyone supposed to know those weapons are NOT	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#155
That's the current law. Sounds like their education succeeded	Recursion	Jan 2013	#156
There's no "probably" about it. It's shouting FIRE in a crowded theater at the least, and providing	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#159
And if someone else feels threatened enough to open fire on those two?	SheilaT	Jan 2013	#32
Who would feel threatened by an openly carried, shoulder-slung, unloaded rifle? (nt)	Recursion	Jan 2013	#46
People who don't carry weapons.	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#50
They're trolls. Calling the police is feeding them.	Recursion	Jan 2013	#51
I don't know where you grew up, but I grew up in rural Maine.	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#58
East Mississippi, in a small town	Recursion	Jan 2013	#68
Was everyone in your town carrying?	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#80
No, not remotely	Recursion	Jan 2013	#83
Yeah, coyotes and snakes are big problems in high-density human population zones.	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#100
You asked	Recursion	Jan 2013	#103
Until it does hurt somebodies.	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#115
And if they didn't call the cops?	theKed	Jan 2013	#77
Convince Oregon to change its laws	Recursion	Jan 2013	#78
Because it's fearmongering	theKed	Jan 2013	#82
Because I didn't see anything wrong with letting them "get what they want"	Recursion	Jan 2013	#84
Right. Cause then they'd be	theKed	Jan 2013	#86
Most sane people.	morningfog	Jan 2013	#79
Or, perhaps, fellow gun educators.	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#105
Isn't that state Vermont? (nt)	Recursion	Jan 2013	#106
How would we know it was "unloaded?"...nt	KansDem	Jan 2013	#126
Good question.	ManiacJoe	Jan 2013	#128
Anyone who has more common sense then a rock.	bowens43	Jan 2013	#131
Yes, it will...probably in Florida.	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#47
Gungeon thread on this asshat from last August:	ellisonz	Jan 2013	#33
wow	uponit7771	Jan 2013	#34
Educate, my ass.	defacto7	Jan 2013	#43
All hail armed men of learning/attention whores	BeyondGeography	Jan 2013	#48
I have	Berserker	Jan 2013	#49
They may as well be terrorists...	kentuck	Jan 2013	#53
The whole lack of attacking people comes to mind (nt)	Recursion	Jan 2013	#56
so we wait until they shoot someone ?	JI7	Jan 2013	#63
Don't be silly....	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#69
Somebody making no effort to conceal his weapon argues to me he's not trying to kill me with it	Recursion	Jan 2013	#71
Yeah, go argue with them that they're exhibiting RWNJ paranoid behavior	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#88
Which question? I thought I had answered all the ones you asked, sorry. (nt)	Recursion	Jan 2013	#89
No problem - post 72	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#97
So people only become afraid	theKed	Jan 2013	#81
For me it would be some time before that	Recursion	Jan 2013	#85
So you agree it is terrorism, then?	theKed	Jan 2013	#90
No	Recursion	Jan 2013	#93
I disagree	theKed	Jan 2013	#95
Oh, I'm pretty sure that they do.	Crunchy Frog	Jan 2013	#118
Considering Portland's December shooting at the Clakamas mall	MerryBlooms	Jan 2013	#130
You have no idea if the gun is loaded....	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#91
An AR? Sure I do. I can tell immediately	Recursion	Jan 2013	#96
But a pair of 22 YOs, you trust.	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#107
I wonder why anyone would be threatened by them carrying weapons?	neverforget	Jan 2013	#61
Because we have a mass killing every week in the USA lately! D'oh!!	Coyotl	Jan 2013	#145
A civilized, moral, ethical society would prohibit citizens from carrying assault weapons.	TheProgressive	Jan 2013	#73
Idiots ISO Chuck Norris.	lpbk2713	Jan 2013	#87
Reminds me of the time the American Nazi party marched thru	marybourg	Jan 2013	#92
Normal people don't walk around with assault type weapons...	Historic NY	Jan 2013	#98
Plenty of guns in Somalia, too!	Old and In the Way	Jan 2013	#112
earlier thread, not FOX	grasswire	Jan 2013	#101
How many were killed?	hughee99	Jan 2013	#104
Well, count me as "educated" now.	agentS	Jan 2013	#113
I think they educated people about how loose the laws are.	Deep13	Jan 2013	#117
This is just sad on so many levels.	go west young man	Jan 2013	#119
Hey, gun-asses: Thanks for letting criminals know...	Beartracks	Jan 2013	#122
Criminals are not allowed to own guns,	ManiacJoe	Jan 2013	#129
Well that's a relief....	Alisi	Jan 2013	#149
good thing you think criminals won't do anything against the law. #deludedbutlovingit	TeamPooka	Jan 2013	#151
Knowing who they are and	ManiacJoe	Jan 2013	#158
LOFL!!! Please put the sarcasm tag at the end just to make sure	uponit7771	Jan 2013	#169
Yes! Let's make all American towns like Fallijah! How delightful.	Kablooie	Jan 2013	#125
This would have been perfectly normal in my neighborhood.	loose wheel	Jan 2013	#132
WHen are these nutjobs going to be declared "bad guys"?	Evasporque	Jan 2013	#137
When they break a law	Recursion	Jan 2013	#139
Good Plan, Dumbasses...	Jeff In Milwaukee	Jan 2013	#140
SMH	Mr Dixon	Jan 2013	#142
This Was A Rank Display Of Public Intimidation, Nothing More, Nothing Less.	Paladin	Jan 2013	#143
Between this and the CEO who threatened to start killing people,	wildeyed	Jan 2013	#144
At some point, one of these hyperaggressive gun worshippers is going to	Skidmore	Jan 2013	#146
If I see a couple of young guys walking down my neighborhood	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#147
In the US in 2013 these buffoons think people should just walk up to somebody with	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#153
I can't wait for Fox's reaction when armed Muslims walk outside their office to teach them	malaise	Jan 2013	#157
Aside from the obvious	billh58	Jan 2013	#160
Oh they're educating people all right.	gulliver	Jan 2013	#165
Scaring the shit out of people =/= educating them.	Initech	Jan 2013	#168

Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:26 PM

Baitball Blogger (11,260 posts)

1. I can see two objectives which are about to clash for the Republican party.

The first is the Second Amendment. The second is the desire to stir the economy. You have people walking willy nilly with guns strapped to their backs and it's going to freak the clientele.

We've seen no smoking areas. Maybe we'll see no gun areas some day?

OMG: FOX - Men armed with assault rifles walk through Portland to 'educate' public

1. I can see two objectives which are about to clash for the Republican party.

2. There are a lot of no gun areas today. Schools, for example!!

20. I'm referring to places of business.

29. Depending on your state, you can tell

30. It's a good idea. I doubt Florida will be one of those states. But it's a good idea.

37. Florida prohibits concealed carry in these locations

108. "place of nuisance"

110. Houses of ill repute

133. Thank you so much for this info!

121. Dallas TX

154. Anybody comes into my veterinary hospital with a gun, they'd

120. Not in Utah!

164. Utah is in a class of its own nt

9. Almost any public building is a gun free area (nt)

21. People with concealed permits don't take their guns there?

26. Generally not. Property owners override concealed carry, for the most part

35. I'm coming to the dialogue late, but, I'll pick it up quickly.

41. NO we don't

162. Is an "assault rifle strapped to their back" a "concealed carry"? What's concealed about that?

23. Depending on where you live....

28. True

123. One of my company's headquarters (in Houston) . . .

134. LOL!

150. There's a lot of guys who want to live in the wild west not a civilized society

3. What if someone wanted to stand their ground and exercise 2nd Amendment remedies

25. First they would have to attack you or otherwise

124. I think it's pretty reasonable to fear . . .

127. No, you would not find many.

163. And I take it this doesn't meet the test . . .

166. He might, but doing so is not illegal.

167. Sigh. Probably just as well . . .

4. How is walking around with an assault rifle

5. It teaches peoiple to immediately call 911.

6. And what if other armed citizens saw them and shot first

7. It seems like utter stupidity to me.

8. Police officer said 911 calls are for "real emergencies".

10. Two people peacefully and trollishly exercising their rights is not, in fact, an emergency

11. If the peace is disturbed, it's disturbing the peace.

27. It's astonishing how often that argument is used to suppress...

39. Hey, thanks for joining DU right after Newtown.

40. Bwah

136. So

138. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service:

12. The Portland Police Bureau, however, asks anyone who sees someone armed with guns to call 911.

17. Yeah. I've lived in East Mississippi and in DC

102. If I saw two people walking the street with assault rifles

15. No one wants to see something like that in their neighborhood or other populated setting.

31. Well, like I said in #17, I've lived in neighborhoods where that is and isn't true

36. I wouldn't want to live anywhere in which it's a common thing to see.

38. de gustibus non est disputandum

44. To each his own. Exactly.

55. if it was Black or Brown guys doing this the gun nuts defending this would be the first ones to

59. Interesting thing. Remember that teabagger who was open carrying his rifle at protests?

66. that was still a protests, but if a group of black or brown guys just started walking down the

67. Yeah. California was fine and dandy with open carry until the BPP started doing it

70. minorities are stopped when driving for no reason, look at Trayvon

75. Bullshit

76. Here's an interview with him

57. If I see two assholes walking around with assault rifles, I'm calling the cops and giving the

74. Screw that-- these needle-dick yahoos are playing with fire...

94. considering it was my kids preschool that got locked down and I got the call about men armed with

141. I think 911 is a pretty good call here.

14. If I make a bad joke to a TSA dude at the airport, they lock me up

135. If they were African-Americans, it would have been a "real 911 emergency"

152. But a person can be non aggressive until they reach their target and then all hell will

161. Exactly! No one knows another person's state of mind or purpose.

13. The last time I saw anybody openly carrying

18. Ha, my battalion did that. Commercial flight and everything.

16. I am

19. "We are not threatening anyone."

24. Whom are they threatening, and with what?

42. What if they were exercising their 2nd Amendment Right in Newtown, CT?

45. They're big enough assholes for doing this in Portland

52. "and, yes, that would be worse."

54. Well, I hope you never have to bury a child, personally

60. I could give a shit about WBC

62. It's two cases of distasteful political speech

64. reread my comment...please answer honestly.

65. Oh, I have no idea what my attitude would be