"A 16-year-old student armed with a shotgun..."

or so said some idiot (and so believe so many gun nutters).

and a pocket full of shotgun shells.

then just hand guns and assault rifles......

been able to engage him in conversation before he shot his 30 rounds?

a right to work, non tenured, work till 9pm at night type. Your average do a good job teaching employee is just so yesterday.

The battle against teachers can't end soon enough imho.


Those teachers deserve some kind of combat pay.

hardworking taxpayers!!111!!elevens!!!

Gallows humor is better than nothing in education these days.

This young person is lucky there was a responsible, calm adult available. One student injured, not killed. If this 16 year old had killed someone, that would be an unimaginable, lifelong burden. The shooting of just one student will haunt them forever, but if that other child had died? The fact that he/she was able to be 'talked down' tells me there is something left in that child. That something would have been broken forever if someone had died.

A shotgun. How the hell did they get a shotgun into the school? And...damn lucky for the rest of those kids that the shooter was an obviously untrained and/or horrible shot. It's tough to miss with a shotgun.

I know the use of 'lucky' is probably incorrect. If you can find a better word, please feel free to share.

I don't know how to feel. I'm feeling a bit guilty because I feel 'relief' that no one was killed. That 'only' one other student was injured. I think it needs to sink in more before another emotion takes over. For now, I guess I'm stuck with relief. Almost an inappropriate joy. I think I need a break from all this. When I feel this way over a child being shot, I'm becoming jaded.

If that had been an semiautomatic rifle, with extended capacity clips, like in Newtown and Aurora, a lot more kids would have died. This is a good argument for gun control.

The Aurora killer did most of his damage with his shotgun. The 100 round magazine for the rifle jammed after a few rounds. If a 12 gauge is loaded with 00 buckshot, then with each shot the shotgun will fire nine .33 caliber balls of lead.

A shotgun has a fairly short range, but inside that range is far more deadly than any rifle. There are shotgun that use detachable magazines with up to 30 rounds, which in buckshot would be 270 balls.

Security in that school if you can just walk through the doors and down the hall into a classroom with a shotgun? Oh that's right we don't need security in our schools.

He was absent because he was snowed in.

Snowed in! In California, two-three inches of snow on a mountain pass can really shut things down!

and be replaced by non-union teachers.

That's what a REAL dedicated teacher would do you know. Sigh... we're so flawed. Professional degrees, experience and all.

Shotgun shells are sold 25 to a box, which explains the "20 rounds".



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-shooting-californiabre90910h-20130110,0,2002738.story

Armed guards are ineffective when they are not at work.

An entire school and class of terrified kids, an amazingly lucky teacher and an even luckier shooter..sure, no mass shooting will make every parent of every kid just scream for joy.

Jesus, does anyone in the US even get it? These are fucking schools, not target factories.

One, just one, school shooting is too much. But no one has listened to educators for the past 15 years. While the demands have been increased on students and staff, no one has been listening. So there will be more-not less-until policy makers listen and choose.

The shooters make their choice while everyone else sits on the sidelines. This line of reasoning murdered 20 little kids and 6 helping and caring adults.

So here's the deal, to those who do not work in education--its rare. To those who work in education-its every damn day. Good luck America retaining good professionals to teach your kids in the future.

Schools are far down the list in terms of risky places to work with respect to homicides.

Its not mental health or the lack of healthcare thereof, its not SSRIs etc. etc. - the common factor truly is the EASY ACCESS TO GUNS.

The sooner the US focuses in on that, the better.