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Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:06 PM

House Republicans Trip Over Each Other To Introduce Competing Bills To Defund Planned Parenthood

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Mitt Romney made his desire to defund Planned Parenthood a central part of his pro-life credentials during his failed presidential campaign ó but even though Romney didnít ascend to the White House, attacks on Planned Parenthood arenít fading away anytime soon. State level efforts to defund the womenís health organization are moving forward in Texas and Oklahoma, and members of the 133th Congress are so eager to introduce national legislation to block federal funds to Planned Parenthood that two Tennessee congresswomen both introduced identical versions of the same bill this week.

As the Huffington Post notes, Reps. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) and Diane Black (R-TN) both hope to prevent Planned Parenthood from receiving federal funding for their family planning and preventative health services, and rushed to introduce a bill to do so during the first few days of the legislative session. But perhaps they were a bit too eager, since both bills are actually exactly the same proposal:

Tennessee Reps. Marsha Blackburn (R) and Diane Black (R) separately reintroduced a bill during the first two days of the 2013 legislative session that would prohibit Title X family planning grants from being awarded to any organization that performs abortions. The bill, first introduced by former Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.) in the 112th Congress, primarily targets Planned Parenthood, which receives about $340 million a year in Title X funds for non-abortion health and family planning services. Both bills amend Penceís original bill to include exceptions for rape, incest and to protect the life of the mother.

The day after Blackburn circulated her bill, Black introduced the same bill. One of Blackís staffers pointed out to HuffPost that her bill has the same number as Penceís original bill and said that Pence, the governor-elect of Indiana, had specifically given Black his blessing to carry it on. Blackís bill has 38 cosponsors and endorsements from all the same organizations that Blackburnís has.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/01/10/1428371/republicans-defund-planned-parenthood/

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Reply House Republicans Trip Over Each Other To Introduce Competing Bills To Defund Planned Parenthood (Original post)
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Response to spanone (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:10 PM

1. Mane they didn't hea the results of the elections, Democrts won because

Of their insanity

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:12 PM

2. This is where we all give a huge sigh in relief

that Obama won, that he has the power to veto, that we hold the Senate, and that Obama is in a position to decide who is on the SCOTUS.

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:13 PM

3. Welcome to the 113th Congress, same as it ever was.

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:15 PM

4. And people think that men masturbate too much.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:15 PM

6. !!!

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Response to Richardo (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:18 PM

8. Thanks, I was afraid I was to subtle.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:20 PM

28. I have a feeling that they are going to be masturbating a LOT more going

forward. Women are getting pretty fed up with this shit.

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:15 PM

5. Boehner: "The House will be focused like a laser on jobs. Wait, that was 2010. I mean the deficit."

"...and by 'focused like a laser', I mean 'totally ignoring'.

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:15 PM

7. ALEC............

I'm sure that the language of the bills is taken (or was given to the Reps) by ALEC.

In my opinion ALEC should be investigated by the Justice Department.

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:18 PM

9. they should just hang signs around their necks saying "we're a$$hole$ out to fuck women not like us"

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:30 PM

10. I am a Democrat but do not think that Abortion is health care

 

I also happen to be a woman. The current abortion laws in, I don't know how many states, is too broad in what reasons can be given for abortions done after 20 weeks gestation. In college, I did numerous term papers on pro-choice and pro-life. I agree with any reason before 20 weeks but not after that. Now before anyone gets mad, lets put it this way. PP does not want any limitations on abortions because they claim it chips away at Roe v Wade, well compare that to gun owners not wanting any restrictions on their 2nd amendment rights as it will chip away at said amendment. Both subjects can end in death, abortion though always ends in the death of a fetus/embryo/baby and gun ownership does not necessarily end in the death of another.
Just sayin

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:02 PM

12. An abortion is typically done in a health care clinic, by a health care provider. How is it NOT

health care?

You misrepresent PP's stance on abortion and I do not think you have a good grasp of what Roe v Wade was about.

I am glad you agree pre 20 week abortions are ok, but again. If they are done by a health care provider in a health care facility, how is this not health care?

I will not even address the abortion vs gun thing as that is just a really stupid argument which has nothing to do with anything.

Just sayin

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:03 PM

13. In the immortal words of Wolfgang Pauli -

Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!

"That is not only not right, it is not even wrong!"

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:07 PM

14. Abortion is a medical procedure -- period

It IS healthcare, it is nothing else but healthcare.

The Democratic Party platform has pro choice as a plank now, and we on DU are expected to publicly support pro choice stances, including on healthcare.

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:24 PM

17. Yes, yes it is

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:48 PM

18. "gun ownership does not necessarily end in the death of another"...

but when it does, the dead person is just as dead.

If one is advocating a Pro-life stance, then one should consider that abortion for ANY reason is the taking of a life. It's simple medical science. No excuses, no exceptions.

If one is advocating a Pro-life stance, then one should consider that capital punishment is the taking of a life. It's simple scientific biology. No excuses, no exceptions.

If one is advocating a Pro-life stance, then one should consider that war results in the taking of a life. It's simple fundamental strategy. No excuses, no exceptions.

If one is advocating a Pro-life stance, then one should consider that killing another in self-defense of life and/or property is the taking of a life. It's simple constitutional law. No excuses, no exceptions.

In other words, it appears to me that one's Pro-life stance is clearly dependent upon how that stance may or may not affect the person in particular rather than on their perceived ideology.

I personally think that if one argues against abortion, then they must also argue against all taking of life. If life is sacrosanct, then that applies in all circumstances, not just abortion.

Anti-abortion arguments are fraught with pseudo reasoning and manufactured rage about the right-to-life in a country filled with people who have little or no compassion for the lives lost to disease, poverty, violence, and war. And so many of those very people are the ones making decisions which, in fact, perpetuate the loss of lives.

But then, that's just what I believe.

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Response to FLyellowdog (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:27 PM

31. reading comprehension problem?`

 

I am pro-choice, but only up to a certain point. I don't think that capital punishment should be applied until DNA, etc, etc all other options and it has been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the person is guilty. Yes, we need to do more for the children who are already alive. That actually is being missed by all politicians. Throwing money at people, i.e. welfare, food stamps, should not be the only solutions. Abused children are the most overlooked constituents in this country.

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #31)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:33 PM

32. Ah...well, now the truth comes out.

"Throwing money at people, i.e. welfare, food stamps, should not be the only solutions."

I see where you're coming from now. I do wish you people would stay where you belong...which is not here.

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Response to FLyellowdog (Reply #32)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:51 PM

36. Okay??

 

Its no wonder the country has come to the state that it has. NO! Welfare and foodstamps shouldn't be the only solution to helping young mothers, single mothers or just any families in financial trouble. Haven't you ever heard of counseling? Caseworkers? Or programs to help someone find a job or a better job. Anger management, parenting classes. Yeah, throwing money at people of limited means isn't the only answer. I was on it years ago and it solved the immediate problem of having food in the house, but it didn't cover that I was an inexperienced young mother who could have used some advice. Back then we didn't have these nurses that come and visit your house now. Plus, its no wonder that a lot of my friends think that democrats are rude people. Everytime I come on this site with an opinion that is in the slightest bit different than someone else, I get called: A re-pube-blican! YOU PEOPLE! Let me tell you something, I don't know how old you are, but I have been voting democrat since 1990! Sick of it Sheesh

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #36)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:21 PM

49. I understand your point but I had to read it twice. But I agree, politicians "throw" a few bucks,

enough to keep people from starving, maybe housing assistance and ignore all the issues that get alot of them there. mental health, childhood intervention, education etc. While there are alot of programs that have been started, the qualifications are so low that many who need help but aren't emergent cases get ignored. We need to do alot more. No one thinks in terms of "investing" in our children and families. I wonder what the tax savings is if you were able to take a child who would statistically become involved in criminal activity requiring jail, etc. and turning that person into a tax paying citizen? For someone to be turned into a taxpayer for 50 yrs. vs. the cost to the system of jailing, adjudicating, costs to victime.....I can't believe it doesn't make sense economically. We wouldn't even have to sell the uber conservatives on doing it for humanity reasons. Hell, you're all about the money, it's cheaper. Go figure!
Hopefully if the democrats take the senate in 14 we'll be able to see more of this. I'll push for it!

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:40 PM

21. After 20 weeks you end up like that poor woman in Ireland

because lord knows she didn't need any health care particularity after she was dead.

Imaginary lines in sand versus what actually happens to real woman hmm...

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Response to Johonny (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:57 PM

25. Obviously you haven't heard

 

but it did come out that woman in Ireland didn't even want or ask for an abortion. Her husband stated that it was never ever discussed.

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:26 PM

29. Provide a link from a reputable unbiased site.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:41 PM

33. You were right

 

I couldn't find the original one that I read. They need to rewrite their law. The husband really should participate in the inquiry to find out why that happened. It might just be that the Irish law of the doctor's conscience interfered with the process.

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #33)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:45 PM

34. What conscience? The one that was saying "do not kill?"

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #34)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:55 PM

38. Supposedly Irish Docs are allowed

 

to deny a non life threatening abortion due to a conscience clause or something like that. The woman's life wasn't in immediate danger at that point, according to the articles, she was having a miscarriage. The doctors said that since her life wasn't in danger at that time and the baby/fetus still had a heartbeat, they couldn't perform the procedure.

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #38)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:02 PM

40. But they refused to save her life for *three* days.

And could have saved her life from the get go since *she* was the sentient human being trying to dispel the clump of cells.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #40)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:12 PM

42. Clump of cells in who's opinion?

 

I have taken alot of medical classes and believe me at 17 weeks, yes she was at that point, the fetus is not a clump of cells.

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #42)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:52 PM

44. Uh huh, sure. Bottom line: Letting a grown woman die needlessly like that is criminal behavior.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #44)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:04 PM

46. Never said that it was right what they did

 

just stating that the fetus at that point is not just a clump of cells.

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #46)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:08 PM

47. So? Worth the woman's death?

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #38)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:44 AM

66. Her life was in danger - as shown by her death

She was also in extreme pain.

The Irish Republic's near-total ban on abortion came in for harsh criticism from Halappanavar's parents on Thursday. They said the lack of guidelines for medical staff had caused their daughter's death.

Her husband, Praveen Halappanavar, an engineer with Boston Scientific in Galway, said his wife had asked several times over a three-day period that her pregnancy be terminated. At the time she was in severe pain and was miscarrying. Medical staff, however, refused her request, claiming they could detect a foetal heartbeat. They reportedly told the couple: "This is a Catholic country."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/16/ireland-abortion-savita-halappanavar-indian-envoy


Where did you hear the lies about her husband saying she hadn't asked for an abortion?

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:34 PM

50. Having been in the exact position the woman in Ireland was back in the 70's

when my pregnancy went wrong and I was bleeding out. I was not asking for an abortion either. I just wanted to live and to get the bleeding to stop. I was depending on the doctor to do what would save me and he, a christian Dr., did not. I wouldn't have know what to demand. I didn't know what to ask for except to stay in bed and not stand up, that is what I did. If my wise mother had not come to my bedside and ordered me to go into the bathroom and sit down, whether or not the Dr. said it was OK, I would have met the same fate as the woman in Ireland. My wise mother saved my life. The fetus was unviable and had been dead for some time. Doctors who let their own convictions override their concern for their patients risk causing death.

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:44 PM

22. Abortion is not only a *health* issue, it's a matter of *privacy* between a woman & her doctor.

Roe v. Wade protects that basic human right for women to be able to make their own choice of having this medical procedure & to have it done by a doctor rather than by one of these...





It is most certainly a health issue. And, regardless of the authoritarian audacity of all the busybodies who have a desire to take this country back to 17th century stupidity, it is strictly a private issue between a woman & her doctor, period.



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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:25 PM

24. You do understand what the D in DU stands for ...right?

I don't even know where to start ... you don't consider procedures conducted by physicians (acting in their role as physicians) to be health care?

You somehow believe that there is something reasonable in likening abortion to gun "rights" ... ?

What has happened to the progressive site I joined 8 years ago?

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Response to etherealtruth (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:16 PM

27. There are pro-life democrats that I have conversed with, but I am

 

pro-choice up to 20 weeks. I have religiously voted democrat even though the party has went against this one belief of mine.. Now if this is what the party has come to where if a fellow member of the party who has a somewhat different opinion than others on this one subject, and gets trashed for it, then I don't know where to go from here. The gun rights reference was just a comparison in that they are both part of a law or the constitution. You really cannot separate one from the other. I also believe in gun control, but to say that you can chip away at one amendment right and not put restrictions on Roe v wade is pretty much hypocritical. If we want to change the 2nd amendment then we need to amend the constitution or put forth another ban like President clinton did. To ignore the medical evidence of fetal pain and how unnecessary a lot of late term abortions are is just a case of ignorance. It pays to be informed and I am not talking about pro-life or pro-choice websites, I am talking about medical sites that give pure information. Doing your research at college libraries also helps. Until women lose this whole, "Its my decision", mentality and become really informed on their options, I don't see conservations like this going anywhere. I have spent hours and hours in the college libraries doing research papers. All I am saying is we all need to have more compassion and care for more than just ourselves.

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #27)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:46 PM

35. What a load of codswallop...

"Until women lose this whole, "Its my decision", mentality and become really informed on their options, I don't see conservations like this going anywhere. I have spent hours and hours in the college libraries doing research papers."

"I am pro-choice..."

Your post proves you are anything but pro-choice, imo, and as to "it pays to be informed", well, all I can say is yes, yes it does and your post is proof of what happens when one is NOT informed.

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Response to Spazito (Reply #35)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:10 PM

41. Yes informed.

 

Are you basing your post on personal opinion or on research? Okay, so you don't believe that the unborn fetus/baby feels pain? Have you done much research on the subject? The only thing I object to is abortions after the point where the fetus can feel pain, especially convenience abortions. Why not give birth at that point. If pain capability is at the very least 20-29 weeks. Alright, at 29 weeks why not give birth and do the adoption thing? Is that really such a bad opinion for a Democrat to have? My best friend, who is also a staunch liberal democrat, also feels the same. Just because someone else has a different opinion, does that mean that we are wrong? Or just that we have different points of view? My mother also has voted democrat her whole life and feels the same as I. She was born in 1954. Are you going to tell her that she is not allowed to vote Dem?

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #41)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:21 PM

43. "Convenience abortions"?

What are those? You think women are going 'la de da, I think I will get myself an abortion for convenience sake'? Seriously? The very fact you used "convenience abortions" in your post tells me I was right in my previous post.

Again, I don't think you are "pro-choice" in any way, your posts are clearly antithetical to that claim.

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Response to Spazito (Reply #43)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:02 PM

45. It is absolutely legal to have a late term and third trimester therapeutic abortion performed

 

in certain states in an outpatient setting.
http://www.latetermabortion.net/faq.html
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/aug/31/ellen-gillette-theres-a-middle-ground-in-issue/

I guess it doesn't matter what you think of me. It only matters what I know to be true about myself

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #45)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:29 PM

55. Therapeutic isn't "convenience"

You honestly think someone goes through a second trimester or early third trimester abortion because there's nothing on TV?

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Response to REP (Reply #55)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:46 PM

57. Well, Game of Thrones doesn't start until late March

So.....

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #57)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:24 PM

71. I didn't realize that was an entertainment option

How about if since I'm gay I try to get pregnant in the hopes that I will have plenty to do until then? In fact, I don't watch much television, so that might be a great option for me

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #57)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:07 PM

73. ...

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #41)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:42 PM

56. "Convenience Abortions"?

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #56)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:07 AM

68. You know, like the kind they offer in vending machines at the 7-11.

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Response to Gormy Cuss (Reply #68)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:47 PM

75. I wonder if they come in uncaffeinated

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #41)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:29 PM

72. I remember when my father had two Convenience Amputations.

I remember when my father had two Convenience Amputations in '79. Sure, the Burgers Disease, the Diabetes, and the collapsed veins had a wee bit to due with it, but let's not kid ourselves... it was damned convenient for him to have it done.


No worries... the legs felt no pain as he was anesthetized during and after.

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #27)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:46 AM

59. has went?

This is the fourth post of yours where you show no comprehension of grammar. Yet you claim to have spent hours and hours in college libraries. Thanks for the laughs, you are just a riot!

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #27)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:17 AM

63. Can you post a link to the evidence of unnecessary late term abortions and the ones done

for convenience sake?

I am sure you will have lots of references available after spending hours upon hours in college libraries.

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #27)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:11 AM

65. Until women lose this whole, "Its my decision", mentality...."

You really believe this quote from your response reflects Democratic Party values?

Amazing

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #27)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:23 AM

67. "pretty much hypocritical"

No. That's like someone claiming, before the 13th amendment was passed, that supporting the right to free speech and opposing the "right" to own slaves was "hypocritical". They are two different issues.

Hypocritical would be someone being anti-choice and then going to get an abortion themselves.

Until women lose this whole, "Its my decision", mentality and become really informed on their options, I don't see conservations like this going anywhere.


Too bad. It IS their decision and it is none of your damn business (or anyone else's) why or when a woman chooses to obtain an abortion.

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:27 PM

30. I am a little confused here.

You are comparing, a Woman's right to choose, what is right for her body, to gun control?

You compare aborting...let's say, a fetus conceived in rape,or a fetus that was conceived in incest to the 2nd amendment!!!???? You compare that, to allowing assault weapons carrying 30 to 100 rounds, to any Yahoo that walks off the street!

Are you serious!

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:00 PM

39. Reproductive health care is health care.

And comparing health care for women to gun rights? Vile.

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:09 PM

48. maybe you're not a democrat?

you're not going to convince many of the democrats here that you hold the proper opinion.

although you're welcome to it, you may just not be a democrat.

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:08 PM

52. Are you saying that abortion isn't health care in the sense that it shouldn't be paid for by the gov

ernment? Planned Parenthood receives gov't funding but they do not use it for abortions. And abortions are only 3% of the services they provide. They perform 3x as many vasectomies as abortions. Also, they do not provide late term abortions. While they have been accused of doing it, most notably by uber rwnj Phil Kline, after the 50 charges he filed against them with 20 some being felonies, not only were the charges dropped he was disbarred. Also, only 1.5% of abortions performed are late term. I don't know how many of those are rape/incest/unviablefetus/mothers life risk.


Sources:http://factcheck.org/2011/04/planned-parenthood/
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/annual-report-4661.htm

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:39 AM

58. Give me a break, shiningseas. Just what

is abortion if not health care? Is it a party trick? And for you to equate Roe v. Wade to gun control is specious. But you'e the Big Expert because you've "written papers?"

Unbelievable.

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Response to catbyte (Reply #58)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:01 AM

62. I For One Would Love To See Those Papers

Scintillating I'm sure.

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:40 AM

64. On the one hand you say you agree with abortion before 20 weeks...

On the other hand you say that 'abortion isn't healthcare'.

At least in the UK - and I doubt that it's very different in the USA - 99% of abortions are performed before 20 weeks (and 90% before 13 weeks). Are these 'not healthcare'?

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Response to shiningseas1971 (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:50 PM

77. Huh? I think you need to go back to school and write a few more papers

And expand your point of view. It seems your sources were biased.

What did you major in? Fox newsology?

Equating the second amendment with women's rights reveals the troll you are.

Glad you posted this, though, since a leopard can't hide its spots for very long.

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:01 PM

11. For my money,

the real question is..."Exactly how much cleavage should one be showing in a Congressional meeting?". Apparently Blackburn has her own answer.

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Response to FLyellowdog (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:14 PM

15. Interesting observation.

just sayin'


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Response to In_The_Wind (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:50 PM

19. Vigilance is a curse. nt

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Response to FLyellowdog (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:26 PM

20. I totally understand.

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:22 PM

16. I hope these

crazy-assed teabilly baggers keep this shit up for 2 more years...

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:10 PM

23. That's some serious job creation they're engaged in, isn't it?

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:59 PM

26. Imagine that!

Maybe they are finally getting it, I hope not!

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:53 PM

37. So, their shack rabbits gonna have little bunnies now?

fonyphucks

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:39 PM

51. I'm delighted to know they have nothing better to do.

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:23 PM

53. And the War on Women continues

 

What I find strange are women who vote for such women-hating right wing neanderthals, or women legislators who propose such measures. Honestly, it just doesn't make any sense to me. Why vote for laws that restrict your access to cheap and readily available contraception? Maybe they're masochists?

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:25 PM

54. must be pressing for them

ranks higher than national security in a Republican brain

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:59 AM

61. I bet they're competing over who will get the lobby money

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:33 AM

69. Same old same old.

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:48 AM

70. Planned parenthood is where many buy birth control cheaply, helping eliminate the need for abortions

 


The children of fundies are quite often the ones in need of abortions because they do not seek prevention ahead of time due to authoritarian parents.

Oh well, logic has no meaning, should be use to it by now...

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Response to Follow The Money (Reply #70)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:16 PM

74. The only time I think 'logic' can possibly be used when referring to Republicans is

when it is part of the word, 'illogical.' Otherwise, it is a no go.

The same goes with rational. That should just become a new rule in grammar.

I before E except after C.
Add "ir" at the beginning of the word "rational" when referring to Republicans.

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:48 PM

76. Don't the pukes have super majorities in TX?

If so, kiss your rights goodbye.

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Response to spanone (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:05 PM

78. I LOVE it. The GOP is so INSANE they just won't learn. They just keep fucking themselves.

These will be about the ONLY two women who will vote for the GOP. They are just soooooooooo fucked in the head.

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