I've just loaded my gun collection on a small boat, and am about to head out on an ocean day cruise.

[slackmaster]

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Wish me luck.

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/sgx/display_product.php?sid=PZ6&pil=OFF

[MADem]

1. Are you going to bury the collection at sea? nt

[slackmaster]

5. That decision is in the hands of God or Neptune or Davy Jones

Or someone like that.

I'll report back later, if I can.

[MADem]

14. Buona fortuna! nt

[Blue_Tires]

40. hope not; it's a fine collection

and while I don't have a lot of $$$$, I'd probably ask him to sell me something...

[kudzu22]

2. Say Hi to Gilligan for me

[Joanie Baloney]

3. Nooooo!

Not the potato gun!!

[ret5hd]

4. May your voyage be long and...

...well, long. just long.

[CJCRANE]

6. Are you on the same vessel as your gun collection?

That wasn't clear from your post.

[snooper2]

7. did you pack some extra oil to take with you, saltwater can really fuck shit up quick

[dairydog91]

8. Try to avoid tragically losing everything. nt

[KittyWampus]

9. Why wish you luck? Are you going to commit suicide? Is a tarpon going to jump aboard & shoot at you

What a weird OP.

[madville]

10. It's not weird at all

Gunowners are notorious for taking all their firearms underway, tragic things, such as boating accidents, happen at alarming rates!

[GreenStormCloud]

46. It is an inside joke.

If you were part of the gun culture you would get it.

[guardian]

11. I don't live near the ocean

But I might go for a walk in the forest with my gun collection (for protection from bears and mountain lions) and a shovel to look for high altitude rhubarb. Maybe I can find some and dig up some root stock for my garden. Though it looks like it might rain so it would probably be prudent to put the guns and ammo in a watertight PVC pipe container. I just hope I don't accidentally set it down and forget where I put it. It would be a shame to get back to the 4x4 with the rhubarb and realize that I left the guns and ammo somewhere in the forest.

This high altitude in Colorado makes one forgetful.

[FSogol]

12. oH nOES! Barrack Hussien Obama is coming for his guns!11!

This is HUGH1!1 CERES

[Puha Ekapi]

13. Heheh.

[MineralMan]

15. I will make the assumption that you are making fun of those who believe

that the Obama Administration is going to confiscate firearms. If I am incorrect in that assumption, then your post is way out of place on DU.

[FSogol]

16. The Freepers all plan on committing insurance fraud and claiming their guns were lost

at sea. Good luck having guns after your fraud trials, Freepers.

[MineralMan]

17. So I've heard. However, I'm unsure about the intent of this OP.

If the OP is making fun of that intent, it's all well and good. I'm not sure, however, if that was the reason for the post. Perhaps the OP will clarify.

[dairydog91]

19. It's only insurance fraud if they claim the insurance. If the guns are even insured. nt

[backwoodsbob]

18. I was just thinking I should take mine out into Charleston harbor

and ride them around

[-..__...]

20. Boat goes in the water... you and guns go in the boat...

storm on the water...



"Farewell and adieu to you, fair Spanish ladies. Farewell and adieu, you ladies of Spain. For we've received orders for to sail back to Boston. And so nevermore shall we see you again".

[Ikonoklast]

21. I thought that collection was your retirement fund.

If it isn't insured against loss, you deserve whatever consequences befall you.

If it is insured, hope you have a very good attorney on retainer if you file a claim.

[MineralMan]

22. Well, I guess I'll have to ask more directly, since my subtle

question did not get a response. Are you hinting that you're planning to "lose" your firearms collection in the ocean so it can't be confiscated by "Obama's minions?" If so, then my response is: Nobody's coming for your guns. Nobody has even proposed such a thing, and nothing of the sort is going to happen.

If, on the other hand, you're making fun of idiots who are seriously thinking about such a fake "loss" of their firearms, then I'm with you 100% in mocking such people.

If you wish, you can answer. If you don't wish to answer, I'll draw my own conclusions.

[hack89]

23. They are proposing registration however, I doubt it will be retroactive. nt

[MineralMan]

24. I'd have no problem with it being retroactive.

I'd gladly register my firearms. I have one 12 gauge pump action shotgun, a sporterized Springfield .30-06 deer rifle, and a genuine 1911 Colt .45 semi auto pistol. I have a couple of other antique firearms as well. Registration of my firearms wouldn't bother me at all. But, who are the "they" who are proposing firearms registration? The Obama administration? Who?

However, I don't think you can answer my question to slackmaster.

[hack89]

29. I don't think it is within the powers of the federal government

look at machine guns and other NFA restricted arms for example. The guns are actually registered with the government by the manufacturer or importer, not the users.

The United States Supreme Court, in deciding the case of Haynes v. United States in favor of the defendant, effectively gutted the National Firearms Act of 1934. As one could possess an NFA firearm and choose not to register it, and not face prosecution due to Fifth Amendment protections, the Act was unenforceable. To deal with this, Congress rewrote the Act to make registration of existing firearms impossible except by the government (previously, an existing firearm could be registered by any citizen).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act#Registration.2C_purchases.2C_taxes_and_transfers

This seems to me to preclude retroactive registration by the federal government - my private property is not an intrastate commerce matter.

I am not sure how it works on the state level.


As for the confiscation, no politician will ever propose such a thing. However, many here at DU have expressed a desire for confiscation - perhaps his comment was also directed to them. After all, a lot of gun control sentiment here is not grounded in fact or reality.

[MineralMan]

31. Again, you cannot speak for the OP.

He apparently is going to stand silent on my question, so I'll have to draw my own conclusions.

[hack89]

33. Since he can't be forced to register his guns

I don't think he need to take his trip.

[Recursion]

28. That's the long-established sense of "tragic boating accident" (nt)

[MineralMan]

30. Yes, I'm aware of that. I'm just asking for the OP's intent

in posting that here. You can't answer for the OP, obviously.

DU is not a conservative website. It is the opposite. I'm a firearms owner, too, but I'm not someone who is concerned about the "government" coming to confiscate my guns. It's a bogus concern. I am concerned, however, about the attitudes of some firearms owners. I'm especially concerned when those attitudes make it into GD on DU.

Your mileage may differ.

[Recursion]

32. Knowing slack, he's making a joke by way of pointing out how difficult registration would be

in a practical sense.

[MineralMan]

35. Which is why I asked if he was joking or being serious.

I don't know. As it turns out, I happened on this thread through jury duty after the OP was alerted on. I voted to leave the post, along with four others, because it was not clear what was being said in the OP. So, I asked. No answer being forthcoming, I have drawn my own conclusion about the intent of the OP.

As far as firearms registration is concerned, I have no problem with registration. I never have. It wouldn't affect me at all, and I'd be happy to register my firearms. I have no belief that anyone is planning to confiscate them, so it doesn't really matter to me if they are registered or not.

Others feel differently. I don't think anyone is seriously proposing retroactive registration in the first place, anyhow, and I know there are no confiscation plans in the works. It's simply not an issue for me.

[TheCowsCameHome]

25. Why sacrifice a perfectly good boat?

Put guns in a potato sack and drop them off a pier.

[MADem]

48. I wouldn't enjoy farting around in a lifeboat, or bobbing about in the ocean worried about sharks,

just to play an insurance fraud game to keep guns--if that's what the deal is (either real or mocking) here.

If you're in a crappy boat, you're going to have to go into the water to make the whole scenario believable. And you'd have to go far out to see in order to minimize any attempt at salvage.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

26. Good luck. I hope that the weather holds up.

[Jackpine Radical]

27. I don't think thats what is meant

by the expression "fighting the elements."

[randome]

34. Ha!

[Chorophyll]

36. Have a nice trip. Don't come back too fast on our account. nt

[VOX]

37. After you've seized the ship, do NOT put Mr. Bligh in the open launch.

That SOB can navigate through a sea of buffalo shit. He'll just spoil everything.
Just sayin', as they say. Good luck, and keep your eyes on the horizon.

[hay rick]

38. If you went on the river you could shoot the rapids. nt

[Hekate]

39. Ah... burial at sea for the guns no longer of use. Bon Voyage.

[ileus]

41. Hurry back, we need you to help fight the good fight.

[NCTraveler]

42. Pretty nasty conditions. Are you bringing a cooler of beer? nt.

[bongbong]

43. Don't emulate the Three Stooges

They drilled a hole in their boat to let out the water that had gotten inside.

I'm warning you: don't shoot a hole in your boat to let water out. It doesn't work!

[One_Life_To_Give]

44. Nice day for it

with the right boat.

[CokeMachine]

45. Good Luck!!

Hope the collection doesn't accidentally fall overboard

[uncle ray]

47. i guess the question is then: what is a fair penalty should you later possess a "lost" gun? nt