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Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:55 AM

So, Guns Don't Kill People?

"The Only Thing that Stops a Bad Guy with a Gun - Is a Good Guy With a Gun".


Really?

Ok, so why exactly does the map of national gun deaths from 2006 look like this..


Firearm Deaths Per State 2006 via The Atlantic


While the map of states with the toughest gun laws look like this?


Strength of Gun Laws per State


Hmmm.... Is there a pattern forming?

MORE:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/10/1177729/-So-Guns-Don-t-Kill-People-eh

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kpete Jan 2013 OP
cyberswede Jan 2013 #1
Recursion Jan 2013 #2
GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #3
Shadowflash Jan 2013 #4
kudzu22 Jan 2013 #5
slackmaster Jan 2013 #6
The Magistrate Jan 2013 #7
2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #9
geomon666 Jan 2013 #8
Drahthaardogs Jan 2013 #10

Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:11 AM

1. I wonder...

...how many of the states with higher death rates are "shall issue" states?

Iowa recently changed from a "may issue" to a "shall issue" state. I wonder if the low rate of gun deaths in Iowa will change because of that (the top graphic above is from 2006, before the change). I know some top law enforcement officials were not in favor of the change.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:15 AM

2. What this tells me is that southerners kill people and New Englanders don't

But I already knew that.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:15 AM

3. most gun deaths are suicides.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:40 AM

4. don't you know

That guns don't kill people.

If one tries hard enough you can kill someone with a large rock and guns make no difference whatsoever.

Please try to keep up.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:47 AM

5. Every one of those gun deaths had someone's finger on the trigger

People kill. Guns make it easier.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:49 AM

6. Let's look at the issue from a different perspective

 

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:56 PM

7. Does Not Really Help Your Case Very Much, Sir

And it is nonesense to extract accident and suicide from gun deaths as a concern for public policy and law.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:06 PM

9. Yo slacky

Have you heard about the "educator and lifelong Democrat?"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1240203475#post7

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:58 PM

8. Not a single gun has ever killed anyone, ever

derp

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:32 PM

10. There is no pattern here

California gets and A but has more problems than New York that gets a B and is just slightly ahead of Colorado and Wyoming, both of which probably have a good portion of their deaths due to big game hunting accidents. Michigan has a C but has as many deaths per 100K as does Kansas, which has an F.

What we have here is a lack of statistical significance.

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