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Enrique

(27,461 posts)
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:16 PM Jan 2013

Interviewing Alex Jones on TV is bad journalism

entertaining, yes, but bad.

I'm guessing that any news program could have conducted the same interview. "Scoring" an interview with Jones is probably as simple as calling him on the phone. And it would have been just as crazy, and the program would have gotten just as much attention as Morgan got. Imagine Wolf Blitzer interviewing Jones.

But all other news programs pass on interviewing clowns on serious topics. But Piers Morgan doesn't pass, which makes him a bad journalist.

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Interviewing Alex Jones on TV is bad journalism (Original Post) Enrique Jan 2013 OP
There is no such thing as journalism. Morgan is a media personality, nothing more ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #1
I'd say there is such a thing as "journalism", since I used to be in it... Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #11
I was in it for a while too...its not a real profession in the slightest ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #15
"Not a real profession?!" Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #17
My issue with journalism is the faux nobility some claim ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #18
I just wanted to know what your industry experience was Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #19
Piers Morgan? ... Journalist?? immoderate Jan 2013 #2
Jones certainly isn't the best person to frame the arguments. But I do think he's representative of Erose999 Jan 2013 #3
Good point n/t GoneOffShore Jan 2013 #4
Thom Hartmann is having him on today. sadbear Jan 2013 #5
Great. The crazy fringe interviewed by the intelligent fringe. Bucky Jan 2013 #10
Normally would agree with you, however in this case I think its great: The more America can see of Pachamama Jan 2013 #6
Jones was crazy scary dangerous-looking there. This does him more good than it does the debate. Bucky Jan 2013 #9
It's actually pretty brilliant WeekendWarrior Jan 2013 #7
Once upon a time I used to think this Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #12
In this particular case WeekendWarrior Jan 2013 #13
It doesn't happen overnight... Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #16
Then he bottomed out and disappeared. nt WeekendWarrior Jan 2013 #23
Piers is in over his head, sure, but the three ring circus is probably getting good ratings for him. Bucky Jan 2013 #8
he is embarassing samsingh Jan 2013 #14
morgan put a frightening face on the rabid gun nuts.....i thank him. spanone Jan 2013 #20
Morgan was interviewing the person who was screaming for his deportation MrScorpio Jan 2013 #21
Morgan exposed the essence of the gun nut position alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #22

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
1. There is no such thing as journalism. Morgan is a media personality, nothing more
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:19 PM
Jan 2013

Its all about ratings, and Jones made for good ratings.

In the end its all about the $$$

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
11. I'd say there is such a thing as "journalism", since I used to be in it...
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:51 PM
Jan 2013

But I do agree that Jones was little more than a stunt -- I'm betting the producers knew it would take very little to light Jones' fuse...

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
15. I was in it for a while too...its not a real profession in the slightest
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:04 PM
Jan 2013

No enforceable standards, no certification, anybody can call themselves one, and its all about chasing the advertising $$$. Been that way for a long time, ala Hearst. When people talk about the Pulitzer Prize, I point to Westbrook Pegler

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
17. "Not a real profession?!"
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:13 PM
Jan 2013

I gotta ask now: Where did you ply your trade, and what did you do??

And fwiw there are COUNTLESS professions with no enforceable standards, no certification, and anybody can call themselves one, so I don't really get that point...

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
18. My issue with journalism is the faux nobility some claim
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:50 PM
Jan 2013

That somehow journalists are crusaders for truth vice just out for a buck and some name recognition. The hullabaloo when journalists tried to show themselves different/better than bloggers was another low point. When people get all excited about Morgan or any other, I point out that they are just media figures, no different than Perez Hilton.

For example, IMO the Journal News in Westchester county is getting what it deserves, and may well be restructured due to the financial hit it is taking. There have been reports of sensitive data that should not have need published and they are getting it back in full measure. Do not out, lest ye be outed kind of thing.


Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
19. I just wanted to know what your industry experience was
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:03 PM
Jan 2013

You don't even have to get into specifics if you don't want to (or you could just PM me if you do)--Just say:

Print (paper/magazine/trade publication/other)
OR
Broadcast and new media (TV/radio/blog/podcast, etc.)

Topic or beat (News/sports/lifestyle/crime/business/education/human interest/niche interest/etc.)

Size of your readership or subscriber base (small/mid/major market), and when you worked there...

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
3. Jones certainly isn't the best person to frame the arguments. But I do think he's representative of
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:34 PM
Jan 2013

the fringe of gun nuts and the types of people who feel the compulsive need to own assault weapons.

I mean beating Jones or one of his supporters at an argument is just as simple as letting him rant and then calmly saying "are you finished?". But mainstream America has been shielded from that brand of crazy by the corporate media, and Jones and his like have been left alone in the dark corners of the interwebs. So in a way, its good that the media is shining a light on these cockroaches and putting them in check.


Bucky

(53,947 posts)
10. Great. The crazy fringe interviewed by the intelligent fringe.
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:50 PM
Jan 2013

I mean, let's face it: thoughtful analysis of policy is not exactly mainstream.

But the bugnutz insane gun-polishers often are considered mainstream.

Pachamama

(16,884 posts)
6. Normally would agree with you, however in this case I think its great: The more America can see of
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:43 PM
Jan 2013

....this nut job - the better....if people want to see what the "gun rights" advocates look like, then have them take a good hard look at Alex Jones. He is all you need to see what we are dealing with in this country from the gun rights folks....and Jon Stewart nailed it....

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
7. It's actually pretty brilliant
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:46 PM
Jan 2013

because it lets us see what supporters of "guns for everyone" are really like.

Morgan has done the world a huge favor.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
12. Once upon a time I used to think this
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:55 PM
Jan 2013

But now I'd say it does a lot more harm than good -- A big media spotlight just does too much to "legitimize" instead of demonize the batshit insanity these days...One of the reasons the Sarah Palins and Glenn Becks of the world are so mainstream when in a different era they would have been shamed into obscurity....

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
13. In this particular case
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:02 PM
Jan 2013

I don't think the guy was even remotely legitimized. He's an obvious nut job. We've known this for a long time. Now everyone does.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
16. It doesn't happen overnight...
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:10 PM
Jan 2013

But just for example, take a look at some transcripts of Beck's more infamous rants when he was *just* a RW radio hack...He wasn't that far from Jones at all...And see how big his celebrity grew once he got on TV regularly with just a tiny bit of refinement...

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
8. Piers is in over his head, sure, but the three ring circus is probably getting good ratings for him.
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:46 PM
Jan 2013

CNN's credibility may suck for his efforts. But ad money is ad money until you get to Glenn Beck levels of crazy and sponsors start bailing...

spanone

(135,795 posts)
20. morgan put a frightening face on the rabid gun nuts.....i thank him.
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jan 2013

there is no journalism anymore, it's all bad.

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
21. Morgan was interviewing the person who was screaming for his deportation
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:13 PM
Jan 2013

It was a televised confrontation.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
22. Morgan exposed the essence of the gun nut position
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:16 PM
Jan 2013

It was brilliant journalism.

It showed the gun fanatics for who they really are: "clowns (discussing) serious topics."

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