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Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:10 PM

Kudos To Howard Fineman Who Just Called S.E.Cupp On Her Statement....

that assault weapons have a use. He called her on that and asked her to give a good use for one and she couldn't and tried to weasel out of the discussion. That's what needs to happen. We can't let people like her make statements that they can't back up.

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Reply Kudos To Howard Fineman Who Just Called S.E.Cupp On Her Statement.... (Original post)
global1 Jan 2013 OP
Ninga Jan 2013 #1
Thegonagle Jan 2013 #3
WeekendWarrior Jan 2013 #8
roosterpack Jan 2013 #15
WeekendWarrior Jan 2013 #18
global1 Jan 2013 #20
libdem4life Jan 2013 #26
global1 Jan 2013 #2
CatWoman Jan 2013 #36
still_one Jan 2013 #4
NewJeffCT Jan 2013 #5
Larkspur Jan 2013 #7
riqster Jan 2013 #27
salinen Jan 2013 #37
lob1 Jan 2013 #6
coldbeer Jan 2013 #9
coldbeer Jan 2013 #17
blogslut Jan 2013 #10
nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #11
Loudestlib Jan 2013 #12
Skarbrowe Jan 2013 #14
chazunit Jan 2013 #19
libdem4life Jan 2013 #35
Third Doctor Jan 2013 #13
RoverSuswade Jan 2013 #16
ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2013 #21
LynnTTT Jan 2013 #22
samsingh Jan 2013 #23
global1 Jan 2013 #24
libodem Jan 2013 #25
vlyons Jan 2013 #28
Caeser67 Jan 2013 #29
dballance Jan 2013 #30
The Wizard Jan 2013 #31
harmonicon Jan 2013 #32
doc03 Jan 2013 #33
zappaman Jan 2013 #34
Walk away Jan 2013 #38
Mosaic Jan 2013 #39

Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:13 PM

1. we can't let people like her on TV, we can't let people like her talk, who the heck does she

know to have that job.....better yet, probably her daddy got her the job. Do.Not.Like.Her.One.Bit

She is two steps above Coulter, which is not saying much.

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Response to Ninga (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:21 PM

3. I say keep them on TV, just don't let them spew BS

without being called out as a BS'er.

Keep them on TV, but make sure they look like the idiots that they are.

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Response to Ninga (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:08 PM

8. Oh, please...

She has just as much right to be on TV or talk as Howard Fineman does. What the fuck country do you live in?

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Response to WeekendWarrior (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:58 PM

15. we live in a country.........................

..................that has free fuckin speech.

yeah..................you're technically correct that the bullshit cupp was spewing is protected speech.

but on the otherhand................fuck her and any of the rest of the lying assholes in the media that use their constitutional rights to do as much damage to truth as they can.

nice job by fineman in shooting holes all through her republic party bullshit.

shout 'em down.

that's what do in person.

truth has to be louder.

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Response to roosterpack (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:01 PM

18. I would defend to the death your right to shout them down, but

I don't think that's very productive.

How about we have a dialogue and not a shouting match.

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Response to WeekendWarrior (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:21 PM

20. Fineman Tried To Dialogue With Her....

and she couldn't answer his question. When he pressed her for an answer she changed the subject to weasel out of answering. There was no need for a shouting match like Alex Jones was pulling off in his spot on the Piers Morgan program. It's interesting that the right wing talking heads are more characteristic in initiating a shouting match. Most of the time because they want to intimidate their debating opponent and mostly because they don't have answers.

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Response to WeekendWarrior (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:02 PM

26. Would that be like the "interview" between Jones and Morgan...Jones 12 minutes, Morgan 3 minutes

give or take. Most were taken up by a calm Piers ..."Alex, alex, alex..." with every increasing hysteria, poor British accent laced, finger in the face emissions by Jones?

Yes, that would describe most of the RWNJ...especially gun nuts.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:15 PM

2. If Anybody Can Post A Clip Of That Exchange Between Her And Fineman I'd Appreciate That.....

I'm not sure how to do that - but that clip is very telling - it would be great if someone could find that and post it here.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:23 PM

4. With a mile range and a bullet traveling at 3600 feet per second there is only one use

To kill human beings

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:24 PM

5. What they're really thinking is

"When the Russians, Chinese and North Koreans invade, I'll need my assault weapon to be able to join the Wolverines and beat back the whole invasion with me and a gang of high schoolers."

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:07 PM

7. No, what they are really thinking is what the Confederates thought when they started the Civil War

they believe their way is the only way and those who oppose them should get out of their way or just die.
These people don't see all American citizens as Americans. Only those that agree with them are real Americans.

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Response to Larkspur (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:03 PM

27. Nailed it.

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Response to Larkspur (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:16 PM

37. Right

 

Assault weapons are for gays, environmentalists, professors, feminists, and atheists.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:05 PM

6. What pissed me off was her smug expression.

She thought she had a real "gotcha" question.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:09 PM

9. My wife just came into my office laughing at Sippy Cupp.

They were calling her favorite baseball player (Gaylord Perry) a cheater
who did not belong in the Hall of Fame. How low an they go?

I was watching a ballgame. I cannot tolerate Sippy.

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Response to coldbeer (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:00 PM

17. S.E. Cupp defended Gaylord .... I misspoke

She remarked that comparing spitballs to
drugs was unfair.

coldbeer

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:09 PM

10. Okay, I'll say it

Going blam, blam, blam really fast makes her feel good. That's the "good use". It is selfish. It is shameful.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:15 PM

11. There is just one use (outside of military use)

And you will notice that they are not used in Olympic sports either. The use is competitive shooting.

But as I said, those are not the riffles used in competitive shooting, except the US it seems.

SE Cupp know that? No, not really.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:40 PM

12. To be fair...

she is stupid.

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Response to Loudestlib (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:58 PM

14. Unfortunately....

most of the people who have these high powered weapons are just like her. And I also believe that they want these weapons "just in case" more of their "freedoms" are taken away by their own government. They are not stock piling weapons and ammo for a possible foreign invasion. Well, in terms we think of as foreign. I'm sure they think liberals and Democrats are almost foreign enough.

It's more than a wee bit scary.

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Response to Skarbrowe (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:07 PM

19. This is exactly

 

the same thing that I hear from those I know who own these weapons. You are absolutely correct with this.

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Response to Skarbrowe (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 09:03 PM

35. That...falls within my category of paranoia. It's 2013...exactly in what Universe is the Federal

Government (or liberals...LOL) going to descend on middle to upper class, especially white people, and force them to cease their boring, daily toil from which said government and government workers get their income and taxes, to take them all to the dreaded FEMA camps...where they would just cost money to house and feed? Failing that scenario, enter the UN Men in Blue.

Given that Universe comes into focus with all of its Police State powers intact, exactly what good would a machine gun do (alas, one can only use one at a time) but get one, or one's family, put in a ... remember, in that former paranoid Universe ... Concentration Camp or the like. Hell, we can't afford to feed and house our poor or assist the hurricane victims...so we'll not soon be imprisoning the over-taxed and over-worked class.

Nancy Lanza is a machine gun case in point...or Alex Jones...shrieking and foaming at the mouth about Mao and Stalin and the like. Really. He said he has 50 guns...perhaps he thinks he can call up his own militia? A black, Democratic centrist president. Insanity.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:54 PM

13. We need to keep SE's views front and center

so we can discredit them. I can't really stand to watch Cupp most of the time.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:00 PM

16. Howard did his best to contain his anger.

But I could see the invisible fumes emanating from his headas he was thinking "what a gopbot"

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:38 PM

21. Yep, she bailed out of it. Here's the video link...

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:41 PM

22. "A ban wouldn't have saved any lives". BS

I have heard many gun rights people stating that there is no proof that a ban on assault weapons would have saved any lives.
I strongly disagree. I believe that the 20 children and six teachers at Newtown would be alive today if there had been a ban in the last few years on assault weapons.
The killer was a antisocial young man living with his mother in an upscale suburban town. He had no friends and apparently rarely left the area. His mother had in the past few years become somewhat of a "survivalist" and began accumulating many weapons.

This young man did not have the social skills nor the money to go to an underground market and buy the kind of assault weapons that resulted in these deaths. He simply had to stay at home and go to his mother's cache of weapons.
A tragedy on the scale of Newtown could not have been committed by this young man without him having access to these weapons.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:45 PM

23. good

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:48 PM

24. Here's The Link To The Cycle & The Interchange Between Fineman and Cupp....

This link actually starts with the start of the show. The segment with Fineman starts around the 2:19 minute mark. S.E.Cupp corrects him on the name of the NRA rep that will be at the meeting with Biden tomorrow around the 2:59 minute mark. The actual interchange with S.E.Cupp/Fineman comes around the 5:16 minute mark.

The stupid comment by S.E. Cupp about the usefulness of assault weapons comes at the 7:00 minute mark and goes through the 8:00 minute mark. That is the crucial interchange to watch and the one that I commented on in my original post.

Sorry for this long clip but I don't know how to cut the important part out of it and post it - so I posted this whole thing.

Here's the link: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-cycle/50412874#50412874

You got to watch it - because Fineman really put her in her place.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:54 PM

25. Woo Hoo

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:13 PM

28. Have you noticed that the other 3 from The Cycle,

Krystal Ball, Toure, and Karnacke all get invited to chime in on other MSNBC shows, aka ODonnell, Bashir, Maddow, and Al Shapton, but Sippee Cupp never gets invited? Just shows how little she's respected. Don't know why she doesn't get fired.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:13 PM

29. She said because she didn't think

That she would be called out on it, and most of the times she never is called out for her BS. So good for Howard.

Proceed.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:14 PM

30. I hunted as a kid along with my dad and brother - with shot guns

We used shot guns. If you miss on the first round you're not going to get a second chance. Also, a shot gun is probably the best defensive weapon in your home. It sprays shot all over so you don't have to be an accurate shooter when you are most likely in a panic.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:16 PM

31. S E Cupp is on TV

because some depraved guy(s) want to look up her skirt.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:17 PM

32. Of course assault weapons have a use!

They're used for killing human beings. That's what they're designed to do, and they're very good at doing it.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:51 PM

33. Where are the gun defenders? I'm sure they will show up here

in mass soon. Maybe they won't pick it up since it doesn't have the word gun in it.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:54 PM

34. Yeah, but she is totally hot

so that makes it okay!

Some people may need this...

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:28 PM

38. I think she is a fake wingnut just like Ann Coulter (although not as gross).

It's just a living for her. Her positions are as fake as her glasses.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:58 PM

39. She's a joke

Just a pretty face, with glasses. An atheist that supports war criminal w bush, what a freak!

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