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Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:31 PM

That Sound You Hear, is the Sound of Heads Exploding

Good for President Obama and VP Joe Biden

There will be some serious freaking out on the 'all or nothing' side of the gun control issue.... guaranteed

Biden: Obama Might Use Executive Order to Deal With Guns

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-obama-might-use-executive-order-deal-guns_694984.html

Vice President Joe Biden revealed that President Barack Obama might use an executive order to deal with guns.

"The president is going to act," said Biden, giving some comments to the press before a meeting with victims of gun violence. "There are executives orders, there's executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required."

Biden said that this is a moral issue and that "it's critically important that we act."

Biden talked also about taking responsible action. "As the president said, if you're actions result in only saving one life, they're worth taking. But I'm convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of americans and take thousands of people out of harm's way if we act responsibly."

Biden, as he himself noted, helped write the Brady bill.

Eric Holder was scheduled to be at the meeting that's currently take place at the White House.

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Reply That Sound You Hear, is the Sound of Heads Exploding (Original post)
trailmonkee Jan 2013 OP
northoftheborder Jan 2013 #1
bongbong Jan 2013 #2
LineLineReply .
trailmonkee Jan 2013 #3
MissMarple Jan 2013 #25
Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #4
Earth_First Jan 2013 #5
Coyotl Jan 2013 #27
Lex Jan 2013 #30
Coyotl Jan 2013 #33
AndyA Jan 2013 #6
angelus__ Jan 2013 #8
BainsBane Jan 2013 #10
angelus__ Jan 2013 #18
GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #14
Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #17
A Simple Game Jan 2013 #20
AndyA Jan 2013 #34
azurnoir Jan 2013 #12
BainsBane Jan 2013 #19
azurnoir Jan 2013 #24
BainsBane Jan 2013 #36
patrice Jan 2013 #7
bvar22 Jan 2013 #9
SummerSnow Jan 2013 #11
bvar22 Jan 2013 #13
trailmonkee Jan 2013 #15
SummerSnow Jan 2013 #35
Jennicut Jan 2013 #21
Ghostrider1 Jan 2013 #28
hrmjustin Jan 2013 #31
Lex Jan 2013 #32
Recursion Jan 2013 #16
former-republican Jan 2013 #22
Robb Jan 2013 #26
former-republican Jan 2013 #29
Taverner Jan 2013 #23

Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:33 PM

1. I like the way they are approaching this, with honesty and courage.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:34 PM

2. Not just heads exploding

 

It's the sound of millions of Delicate Flowers crawling into their "safe spot" under their beds.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:34 PM

3. .

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Response to bongbong (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:40 PM

25. Delicate Flowers...

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:35 PM

4. OMG, No! They're distracting Holder with this nonsense

when there are medical marijuana dispensaries to be persecuted--I mean, prosecuted?

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:37 PM

5. HERE COME THE WHOLESALE UNITED NATIONS FIREARMS ROUNDUP!!!11!

ZOMG!

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Response to Earth_First (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:54 PM

27. They are taking our guns because they are coming after our women next

and other leaps of logic coming in 3, 2, 1

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #27)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:19 PM

30. and then your Bible.

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Response to Lex (Reply #30)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:40 PM

33. LOL!

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:41 PM

6. I keep thinking that the gun culture issue exposes another problem in America

Why does law enforcement exist? If they can't serve and protect the people, why not? If there isn't enough money to put enough officers on the streets, we need to spend some of the defense budget to do so. Police also defend the country.

If our streets are so violent and unsafe that Americans must have multiple guns to protect themselves, something is wrong. It's not just mental illness, violent movies/tv/games, it's more than that. I'd rather have more well trained, regulated, law enforcement officers on the streets with guns than a bunch of strangers who I'm told I must trust to be responsible.

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Response to AndyA (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:57 PM

8. Citizens with guns

 

are not for your protection sir. Its for their own. You can call the police if you'd like but plan on them being there in minutes when seconds count.

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Response to angelus__ (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 02:00 PM

10. all the more reason not to have a gun

because it's 7x more likely to be used against yourself or a family member than an intruder.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:31 PM

18. I speak for myself

 

...and I live by myself. I'll be right as rain sir.

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Response to angelus__ (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 02:15 PM

14. That would explain why most gun deaths ...

are self-inflicted. No?

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:15 PM

17. I think 60 percent are suicides. nt

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Response to angelus__ (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:35 PM

20. If citizens with guns are not for my protection, then the have to

stop using the 2nd Amendment as an excuse for being able to own guns.

Let's make up our minds.

Publish the names so I know who I can call on when the government unfairly comes for me. An online database would be nice.

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Response to angelus__ (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:46 PM

34. You missed the point. I mentioned nothing about *my* protection. n/t

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Response to AndyA (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 02:10 PM

12. well that's a good question because and I am being honest here

when I lived in Minneapolis I was as afraid of the police as I was of criminals, if you lived in certain areas of the city the cops literally considered everyone to be criminal and treated you as such

now understand I did not own a gun either but I am pointing out a problem that truly does exist

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:34 PM

19. I'm in Mpls

one of the worst police forces in the country. Not only nasty bigots, but fucking useless. They never investigate any real crimes. They just hassle people of color. I'm a white woman and I don't care for them. But I still don't want a gun.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:38 PM

24. so am I

a white person I lived in Willard-Homewood North and Whittier South and they treated everyone like crap

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #24)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 08:15 PM

36. I grew up in Whittier

I live in Longfellow now.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:44 PM

7. He might as well, because no matter how moderate & centrist & reasonable whatever he does is, it'll

be perceived as justification for a lot worse by certain people.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:59 PM

9. This can NOT be true!

Anyone who has been reading DU knows that
The Presidency is an inherently WEAK position.

The President can NOT do ANYTHING without Congress & 60 votes in The Senate.
Period.
Case Closed!

All sensible Democrats who understand how government works
already KNOW this simple FACT!




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Response to bvar22 (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 02:02 PM

11. They can impeach him over it

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 02:14 PM

13. No, no.... you don't understand HOW government works.

The President can't even stand in the Bully Pulpit and say that this would be a good thing.

I used to think like you,
but Common Sense posters who Live-in-the-Real-World at DU straightened me out.
NOW I know HOW government works.

Get with the Program
or you're only helping Romney!

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 02:36 PM

15. I think somebody might be trying to yank your chain :)

people need to use the ' ' smiley a little more often....

at least I am hoping that is the case here

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Response to trailmonkee (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:29 PM

35. oops sorry forgot the sarcasm thingy

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:36 PM

21. The President can do certain things by Executive Order.

But doing something like the assault weapons ban requires Congress.

"The things Obama can get done through executive order are much smaller. They include "changes to federal mental-health programs and modernization of gun-tracking efforts by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives," the Post says. Other Congress-less reforms floated include tracking gun buyers' history of mental illness, sharing more information between state and local law enforcement, keeping information on gun sales longer, and banning the importation of military-style weapons."


http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/01/dont-worry-nra-obama-cant-do-big-things-guns-without-congress/60778/

It has to be something that pertains to the powers of the executive branch to begin with.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:17 PM

28. Presidential power

 

Agreed. The president starts using EO's for something like this to sidestep the constitution and it opens a major can of worms. The question is; if it works, what other constitutional right will he sidestep? What if the Repubs win back the White House as they eventually will, will THAT president do the same to do whatever he or she wants?

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Response to Ghostrider1 (Reply #28)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:22 PM

31. Now that is a scary thought. The idea that a republican can win the white house back should scare

any citizen out of their whits. By the way welcome to DU my friend.

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Response to Ghostrider1 (Reply #28)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:22 PM

32. Oh boo hoo. We lived through Bush

and the Repubs will live through Obama.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 02:39 PM

16. The Brady Act is great legislation

If we could come up with something more like that and less like the AWB, we could get somewhere.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:37 PM

22. He can't do anything with it that will affect non government employees

 



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Response to former-republican (Reply #22)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:50 PM

26. We'll see.

Tick, tock.

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Response to Robb (Reply #26)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:18 PM

29. You know I'm right

 

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:38 PM

23. You know, putting out an EO to actually enforce existing gun laws...

 

Would do a ton

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