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Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:21 PM

Where is all the crazy coming from?

Obama staged Newtown shooting with 'crisis actors,' says professor who is totally not a crackpot
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/08/1177320/-Obama-staged-Newtown-shooting-with-crisis-actors-says-professor-who-is-totally-not-a-crackpot


Right Wing Clown Show wants Dianne Feinstein charged with treason; exceeds petition threshold.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/08/1177342/-Right-Wing-Clown-Show-wants-Dianne-Feinstein-charged-with-treason-exceeds-petition-threshold


Larry Klayman calls for revolution to overthrow Obama
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/07/1176992/-Larry-Klayman-calls-for-revolution-to-overthrow-Obama


WTF?




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Reply Where is all the crazy coming from? (Original post)
ProSense Jan 2013 OP
The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2013 #1
spanone Jan 2013 #2
TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #3
spanone Jan 2013 #8
Brother Buzz Jan 2013 #4
longship Jan 2013 #27
Brother Buzz Jan 2013 #29
awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #30
CakeGrrl Jan 2013 #5
Rex Jan 2013 #6
NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #7
Agschmid Jan 2013 #10
Trajan Jan 2013 #12
Hekate Jan 2013 #28
HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #9
Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #11
ProSense Jan 2013 #13
Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #14
YvonneCa Jan 2013 #17
Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #24
YvonneCa Jan 2013 #15
1-Old-Man Jan 2013 #16
allrevvedup Jan 2013 #18
wiggs Jan 2013 #19
allrevvedup Jan 2013 #23
Cha Jan 2013 #20
freshwest Jan 2013 #21
Fumesucker Jan 2013 #35
RussBLib Jan 2013 #22
Skittles Jan 2013 #25
liberal N proud Jan 2013 #26
moondust Jan 2013 #31
Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #32
coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #33
great white snark Jan 2013 #34
bemildred Jan 2013 #36
Odin2005 Jan 2013 #37

Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:23 PM

1. I think it's always been there, lurking under various rocks

but the Internet and the 24-hour "news" media have allowed it to crawl to the surface. And that tends to validate the crazy and encourages other potentially crazy people to do more crazy shit.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:24 PM

2. Obama won.

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Response to spanone (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:27 PM

3. And he's not running again. Free to do what he wants now.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:31 PM

8. yep. the fiscal cliff pissed off the bugs too.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:27 PM

4. It's the damn fluoride in the water, dontcha know

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:50 AM

27. Ever heard of fluoridation, Mandrake?


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Response to longship (Reply #27)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:02 AM

29. Ha!

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Response to longship (Reply #27)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 02:37 AM

30. You ever see a commie drink water? nt

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:28 PM

5. Severe Obama Derangement Syndrome - seriously.

Aided and abetted by the corrupt MSM and talk radio. They play up their susceptible viewers'/listeners' paranoia what the illegitimate Kenyan "other" will do to their American way of life.

The enlightening thing is seeing how many people are cracking under their facades.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:29 PM

6. Like I've been saying

the uptick in troll behavior, in all aspects of life, is beginning to hit the radar even for the average person. The simple fact is that the GOP CANNOT STAND IT that our POTUS won a second term! It is killing them! So their brain-dead followers are doing what a lot of us knew they would - shit all over themselves and then cry 'the sky is falling'!

This is what happens when very stupid and sometimes dangerous people start to lose their facade of normalcy over to reality and the facts at large.

Expect more of it, not less.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:29 PM

7. Project Newtown Omega was a success. Project FEMA Camp can now begin in earnest. Code 2Sigma

Repeat.

Code 2Sigma.

FEMA Camps Delta Bravo..... Go Sign 2Sigma.

Do NOT repeat.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:34 PM

10. Check your six.

And prepare for more Shock and Awe.

And blatant paranoia which also seems to be running rampant throughout DU right now.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:40 PM

12. . o O ( code 2sigma? .. in the middle of dinner? ... )

I don't think so!

NOT til after my nap ...

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:01 AM

28. Significant owl hoots in the night

Repeat: Owl droppings.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:32 PM

9. It's the Mayan calendar

the world as we knew it gone.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:40 PM

11. There are so many unhappy people out there...

when times are bad they believe they are in a mainstream of shared misery and feel free to voice whatever nonsense comes to mind. Life is not meeting their expectations and rather than look inside to identify the problem, they lash out at those they perceive as threats.
Their inability to face reality amplifies the craziness.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:48 PM

13. That's likely part of it, but

I think the bigger part are the demagogues who have used conspiracy and fear mongering to fuel distrust.

"Life is not meeting their expectations..."

They've been lied to.

I mean, when Fox Noise is mainstream, that's scary enough.

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Response to ProSense (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:09 PM

14. Fox Noise isn't mainstream...

it's just the... noisiest.

I agree the demagogues add to the problem, but we've always had demagogues in a wide variety of stripes. Father Coughlin, Joe McCarthy, Carrie Nation to name just a few. I think we feed into their nonsense every time we react to it and I believe that's true whether it's Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, Orly Taitz or the kooks you linked to. Even the trolls who come to DU to post crap. You can't change people's beliefs and certainly not with factual evidence. Every time John Stewart attacks Fox Noise they report it as a badge of honor, that is particularly true of O'Reilly. Limbaugh does much the same. Think how much less the bloviator would have to say if no one from the left ever mentioned his name?

My New Year's Resolution is that I will be ignoring any post that smacks of having been written by a troll. I am no longer willing to give them the attention they so desire by playing into their delusions. My intention was validated by a DU thread that appeared on one of the more popular RW sites, to the consternation of many.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #14)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:22 PM

17. I agree with not doing anything to give oxygen...

...to the fires these demagogues create. Ignore them. Smother the flames, rather than fan them.

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Response to YvonneCa (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:42 PM

24. Exactly. Excellent analogy. n/t

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Response to ProSense (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:19 PM

15. "They've been lied...

...to" is exactly what I think. People like Rove and others have preyed upon their fears for political gain. I think people who do that are despicable.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:21 PM

16. Crazy follows hot on the heels of poor and stupid - so look around for the source

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:40 PM

18. It's a fair question.

 

Where is it coming from? Alex Jones is crazy sure, but who's giving him a national spotlight? CNN. James Tracy is less crazy perhaps, but insofar as he's hinting that Sandy Hook can be traced to Obama, if he actually is, a) yes that is crazy, whereas b) there are several important questions about Sandy Hook that are being neglected by the media in favor of the crazy circus, that's not so crazy.

k/r

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Response to allrevvedup (Reply #18)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:50 PM

19. 90% of talk radio airtime is RW. Listen to Hannity or Mark Levin sometime and you'll see

where these notions start.

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Response to wiggs (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:36 PM

23. I'll take your word for it.

 

But yeah it's everywhere.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:21 PM

20. When you say "crazy".. that's a freaking

understatement!

"Seriously" Profiteering, Heinous, paranoid attentionwhores response to a smart working government.. "Tyranny!" "Tyranny!" "Tyranny!"

Glad they're Exposing themselves..They just help Pres Obama being even more popular.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:26 PM

21. Grover Nordquist. This is the Tea Party 2 the threatened. 2010 worked to his favor.

And there are plenty of suckers who will fall for this, from uber-liberals - only-real-progressives, to the CTers and troll who infest the net with fear and doomsday.

They play it from both sides and are gearing up to treat Obama and Democrats the same way they did from 2009, sowing division and telling people nothing they do is going to help. They have created a block here at DU who already have said they will not vote in 2014 due to whatever contrived outrage is posted here even if it is debunked repeatedly.

We can't forget who owns the media and will keep on promoting this until 2014. It worked once before and it can work again. This is going to get a lot worse.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #21)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:41 AM

35. <sigh> It wasn't the liberals that didn't vote in 2010, it was the centrists, the swing voters

The salt of the Earth, low information voters, you know morans.

You complain of divisions while trying your best to drive a wedge in.




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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:32 PM

22. 33 states allow gun shows with no background checks

...can someone tell me how THAT is a "well-regulated militia"?

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:43 PM

25. it's that black man in the White House, ProSense!

they were hysterical when he was first election but OMG now that he has been *RE-ELECTED* they're having a case of the mass vapors!

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:47 PM

26. The birther/ Obama gonna take our guns/ he is a Muslim crowd.

Nothing is reality for those people.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:16 AM

31. More than a decade of radical RW media.

Supporting, comforting, reinforcing, emboldening, focusing, directing, inciting, popularizing...RW wackos.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:24 AM

32. The world is big, and complicated- lots of people have small brains that like shit simple,

and easy to understand.

Plus the world is moving fast, and changing an' stuff, and noooooo those people don't like that.

Authoritarians want deeply to be in control of what other people do; but the other people are like "yeah, whatev" and then the Authoritarians get mad and then they start to think...

... wait, if I can't control other people, then maybe no one really controls anything-

and then they start to freak out so they need to construct this batshit paranoid reality where everything is micro managed, because thinking a spooky boogeyman is hiding behind the curtain is, fundamentally, more reasurring than the truth that there's NO ONE there.


Also, these assholes were doing the same thing during Clinton: It was all "MILITIA! FIGHT THE GOVERNMENT! REVOLUTION!" And then Bush came into power and it was "SALUTE THE FUCKING FLAG, HIPPIE! RESPECT! THE! USA!"

...and now Obama's in so it's "MILITIA! FIGHT THE GOVERNMENT! REVOLUUUUUTION!!!!"

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:57 AM

33. I think the shitty economy and sense among the populace that nothing fundamental has really changed

 

propels some of it, combined with disastrous declines in critical thinking skills and fundamental logic.

Your wages have not kept up your standard of living, you may have lost your house or job and you may be having to work two jobs just to make ends meet. Rather than blame a system that has allowed 1% of the population to control 40% of the wealth, it's far easier to look for malign forces that personify one's personal prejudices but that no amount of evidence can actually disprove.

But it's an excellent question you raise.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #33)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:22 AM

34. "Consumer Confidence Improves as Hiring in U.S. Picks Up"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-03/adp-says-companies-in-u-s-added-215-000-workers-in-december.html

As for the "sense among the populace that nothing fundamental has really changed" comment, how did you draw that conclusion? The wealthy just got taxed more (with more to come and hopefully a revamp of tax code which Obama wants) and improved gun control laws are on the horizon. Were you expecting fundamental changes before the inauguration?

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:53 AM

36. It's always been here, it never left. nt

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 08:47 AM

37. Obama Derangement Syndrome

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