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highplainsdem (11,110 posts)

SOTU OFFICIAL THREAD -- Thread 2

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***SOTU OFFICIAL THREAD*** -- Thread 2 (Original post)	highplainsdem	Jan 2012	OP
Prez, there are plenty of tech workers in the US that can't get hired, because companies	valerief	Jan 2012	#1
And because they just don't want to hire people over 50.	undeterred	Jan 2012	#10
I know that only too well. nt	valerief	Jan 2012	#27
Or the job "requirements" are unrealistic and the pay a pittance	csziggy	Jan 2012	#33
Yes, here I am.	undeterred	Jan 2012	#100
I live in a "right to work" state	csziggy	Jan 2012	#209
false	The Hitman	Jan 2012	#96
If you think there is no age discrimination, you are wrong.	JDPriestly	Jan 2012	#211
Thank you!! those on dialup are grateful nt	riderinthestorm	Jan 2012	#2
You're welcome! The first thread was getting cumbersome even with a high-speed connection.	highplainsdem	Jan 2012	#8
Thank you.	Control-Z	Jan 2012	#3
Love the humble Jackie	BeyondGeography	Jan 2012	#4
Here are links to watch:	SunsetDreams	Jan 2012	#5
He has mentioned NC multiple times. And named Raleigh specifically	musicblind	Jan 2012	#6
"It is time to turn our unemployment system into a re-employment system that puts people to work."	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#7
ty highplainsdem nt	blaze	Jan 2012	#9
How can republicans frown on these ideas? How can ANYONE? n/t	musicblind	Jan 2012	#11
Because they're thinking...."Shit, how can we run against these things?"	BlueDemKev	Jan 2012	#109
Boner nodded, yes, to 'reemployment.'	elleng	Jan 2012	#12
The speech has been wonderful so far!	tallahasseedem	Jan 2012	#13
It's just a speech. It's all about the follow through and	Hotler	Jan 2012	#40
I hate, no! I loath these fucking pompous Republicans	liberal N proud	Jan 2012	#14
Love the praise for teachers... He's so right about everything he's saying!	highplainsdem	Jan 2012	#15
Obama stopped Chinese tire dumping	sfpcjock	Jan 2012	#16
That's HUGH!!! n/t	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#20
Backing merit pay...	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#17
Should get another Secretary of Education.	elleng	Jan 2012	#61
Yay teachers! Give schools resources!	nolabear	Jan 2012	#18
Poor VP Biden	rainbow4321	Jan 2012	#19
LOL, and he kept hugging Boner.. nt	Phoonzang	Jan 2012	#48
POTUS proposes every state requires that all students graduate or until they turn 18. Wow	stevenleser	Jan 2012	#21
congress silent through education section	Enrique	Jan 2012	#22
Too fucking little. Too fucking late Mr. President.	Hotler	Jan 2012	#23
Bye Bye n/t	RebelOne	Jan 2012	#46
Cuz he's superman!	one_voice	Jan 2012	#60
See ya. n/t	Control-Z	Jan 2012	#64
There's the door....	BlueDemKev	Jan 2012	#93
He's presenting a perfect tone. A HUGE contrast to those in the clown car. n/t	deacon	Jan 2012	#24
Congress, get off your ass about the student loan % doubling in July. nt	msanthrope	Jan 2012	#25
How will states require kids to stay in school? Will any of them act on that?	nolabear	Jan 2012	#26
Bad Idea	erpowers	Jan 2012	#75
In some countries they have a choice of finishing a minimum level of education or	Cleita	Jan 2012	#136
Yeah, that's what I need...	JSnuffy	Jan 2012	#169
So you agree that keeping them in high school is a better option then?	Cleita	Jan 2012	#181
They can figure it out on their own if they should stay or go...	JSnuffy	Jan 2012	#202
Oddly, I disagree	kurt_cagle	Jan 2012	#214
I don't think it's at all possible to enforce something like this.	cherokeeprogressive	Jan 2012	#210
Couldn't they be taught a trade?	Cleita	Jan 2012	#212
It's not that I disagree with you...	cherokeeprogressive	Jan 2012	#215
Prefer That	erpowers	Jan 2012	#217
They used to back when I went to school. However, the cut off age was sixteen.	Cleita	Jan 2012	#131
EDUCATION is sooo important!! (goes against the ALEC agenda!!) n/t	hue	Jan 2012	#27
What? No bowing to ALEC?	blaze	Jan 2012	#35
Republicans don't applaud teachers either.	NYC Liberal	Jan 2012	#29
Tee hee fuck you ASU!	lonestarnot	Jan 2012	#30
Says states need to make higher education a priority in their budget.	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#31
"Higher education can't be a luxury -- it is an economic imperative"	highplainsdem	Jan 2012	#32
Education cannot be a...	one_voice	Jan 2012	#34
I'll be honest thought. Some kids just don't want to learn.	musicblind	Jan 2012	#36
Some kids just learn differently	blaze	Jan 2012	#52
I'm talking as someone whose mother is a teacher and who grew up with a learning disability myself.	musicblind	Jan 2012	#88
That is true. My daughter is a teacher	RebelOne	Jan 2012	#68
Those kids should have the choice of a vocational program in high school	Orangepeel	Jan 2012	#85
Comprehensive immigration reform...NOW!!! nt	msanthrope	Jan 2012	#37
"We should be working on comprehensive immigration reform right now." - POTUS	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#38
"Opponents of action are OUT of excuses"	NYC Liberal	Jan 2012	#39
Get off your ass McCain	BeyondGeography	Jan 2012	#41
He probably CAN"T get off his ass......	TheDebbieDee	Jan 2012	#150
You gotta hand it to him. He's not leaving anything out. Great job!	nolabear	Jan 2012	#42
McCain, .....that should be me....that should be me....	Demonaut	Jan 2012	#43
"right now" was clearly the wrong phrase for a drinking game.	Saving Hawaii	Jan 2012	#44
thank the lord he just said "this year" instead of "right now".	Saving Hawaii	Jan 2012	#58
Ho braddah...	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#72
Dangit. I'm not even caught up yet and he says it again.	Saving Hawaii	Jan 2012	#101
Immigration reform! Wow! About time! n/t	MarkCharles	Jan 2012	#45
Who knew John McCain would turn looking constipated into a lifestyle choice?	HipChick	Jan 2012	#47
Practicing his hamster face.	nolabear	Jan 2012	#54
ROTFL! I was trying to decide how to describe that expression of his!	highplainsdem	Jan 2012	#59
check and mate on immigration	Motown_Johnny	Jan 2012	#49
Women should earn equal pay for equal work....and the repukes don't stand. nt	msanthrope	Jan 2012	#50
They are trying to figure out how women are going to get the housework done on top of getting = pay	Thor_MN	Jan 2012	#77
Women should earn equal...	one_voice	Jan 2012	#51
"Women should earn equal pay for equal work."	musicblind	Jan 2012	#53
"Women should earn = pay for = work!!" YES!! n/t	hue	Jan 2012	#55
OMG	Courtesy Flush	Jan 2012	#206
Boner keeps licking his lips. Seems stressed- in need of bourbon and chap stik.	Snarkoleptic	Jan 2012	#56
Maybe saddle soap will help. Isn't that what you use to condition old leather? n/t	Cleita	Jan 2012	#77
"Put it in a bill and get it on my desk..this year." nt	msanthrope	Jan 2012	#57
Think he wants an immigration fight during the election year?	Saving Hawaii	Jan 2012	#67
Yes. He wins it. nt	msanthrope	Jan 2012	#74
I've been saying for months...	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#86
Whoever gives the response is going to look so small if they go on the attack. n/t	stevenleser	Jan 2012	#62
When it's time for the GOP response, we'll have to close this SOTU thread...	Mister Ed	Jan 2012	#97
Support research and innovation!	AnnieBW	Jan 2012	#63
Drill Baby Drill !	Motown_Johnny	Jan 2012	#65
Oh, BOO to offshore oil.	Matariki	Jan 2012	#66
He never fails to make me realize he loves this country.	nolabear	Jan 2012	#69
Nice response to alternative energy!	Matariki	Jan 2012	#70
How fantastic is it	amuse bouche	Jan 2012	#71
Republicans applaud natural gas and offshore oil? Of course! n/t	MarkCharles	Jan 2012	#73
Oh no	Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin	Jan 2012	#76
DRILL BABY DRILL!	IamK	Jan 2012	#79
Paul Ryan toolishly laughing at Obama proposing an All-Of-The-Above strategy for energy development	sfpcjock	Jan 2012	#80
Calling for more clean energy...	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#81
"It was PUBLIC RESEARCH DOLLARS that developed this technology"	NYC Liberal	Jan 2012	#82
Hmmm, Boehner must have taken His mood stabilizers tonight!! n/t	hue	Jan 2012	#83
LOL! Remind them that Government research led to fracking	AnnieBW	Jan 2012	#84
I can't believe he is for fracking. nt	Mojorabbit	Jan 2012	#95
any solandya workers in the house?	IamK	Jan 2012	#87
there are no solandya workers anymore	Motown_Johnny	Jan 2012	#97
"We've subsidized oil companies for a century. THAT'S LONG ENOUGH."	Robb	Jan 2012	#89
Yes! That was awesome!	Matariki	Jan 2012	#121
did he say natural gas? as in FRACKING? right?	FirstLight	Jan 2012	#90
He said that...but he "qualified" it with...	GReedDiamond	Jan 2012	#125
The Duke of Orange makes Big O look yellow!	TroglodyteScholar	Jan 2012	#91
Time to end subsidies for oil industry!	highplainsdem	Jan 2012	#92
Wow, he went there on the Oil industry being subsidized!!! Woot!	stevenleser	Jan 2012	#94
Thank you thank you thank you Mr. President!	lonestarnot	Jan 2012	#99
...Congress ass-kicking in progress	sfpcjock	Jan 2012	#102
+1 for a well deserved ass-kicking!	Matariki	Jan 2012	#192
OT--my little daughter thought the Supreme Court weren't clapping because they're nuns	renate	Jan 2012	#102
Ha! Who was the guy with the white hair?	Gidney N Cloyd	Jan 2012	#118
Gingrich :)	renate	Jan 2012	#143
Obama: You won't get off your ass, so I will continue to kick it	BeyondGeography	Jan 2012	#104
I like this line on clean energy:	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#105
Watching Obama here reminds me of a famous Bill Maher line	malaise	Jan 2012	#106
"Obama will fuck you up"	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#133
Holy shite--he's using the military to purchase clean energy....	msanthrope	Jan 2012	#107
Now that's defense spending I can get behind! nt	valerief	Jan 2012	#114
You can tell how great this speech is by the unhappy looks on Republicans' faces.	highplainsdem	Jan 2012	#108
Infrastructure!	AnnieBW	Jan 2012	#110
On DOD renewable energy	denbot	Jan 2012	#111
Obama loves this country. Newt/Mitt love themselves.	musicblind	Jan 2012	#112
Amen.	BlueDemKev	Jan 2012	#134
Obama is fucking killing it!	Drunken Irishman	Jan 2012	#113
+1,000,000	highplainsdem	Jan 2012	#123
I have to laugh at the light shining on him from the heavens	amuse bouche	Jan 2012	#115
I saw that too....awesome. nt	Phoonzang	Jan 2012	#124
a peace dividend	Motown_Johnny	Jan 2012	#116
Bouncy Bouncy Bounce	lonestarnot	Jan 2012	#117
Look At Boehner's Face.....	BlueDemKev	Jan 2012	#119
"Take the money we're no longer spending on war, use half of it to pay down the debt...	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#120
But how much of that war money have we been borrowing?	Gidney N Cloyd	Jan 2012	#146
We are not going to cut our way out of a depression. n/t	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#158
Agreed. I just don't like to suggest there'll be a 'peace dividend.'	Gidney N Cloyd	Jan 2012	#216
Nation Building! Fuck yeah!	nolabear	Jan 2012	#122
We Need Nancy Pelosi back in the Speaker's Chair	BlueDemKev	Jan 2012	#126
That's a MUST!	elleng	Jan 2012	#151
Nice purple tie there, Geithner	AnnieBW	Jan 2012	#127
Sweet... another chance for banks to rip people off on "refinance"	IamK	Jan 2012	#128
Infrastructure!!! Construction!! Rebuild!! Refinance!! Screw the 1 %!!!	hue	Jan 2012	#129
"We'll give those banks that were rescued by taxpayers a chance to repay a deficit of trust."	highplainsdem	Jan 2012	#130
It's like his staff reads DU.	Robb	Jan 2012	#135
timmy looks like he swallowed a lemon.	mopinko	Jan 2012	#132
Obama/Duncan education policy is total bullshit. He can't call for merit pay at the same time he is	Orlandodem	Jan 2012	#137
Bombs going off all over Camp Pen tonight for clean energy projects on public lands	sfpcjock	Jan 2012	#138
Fellow DUers, let me just say, THAT is MY President. nt	stevenleser	Jan 2012	#139
+1	musicblind	Jan 2012	#184
Did Droopy Dog just call Mr. President a son of a bitch?	lonestarnot	Jan 2012	#140
Who? Where?	elleng	Jan 2012	#164
Lebermanheavepileof shit. Too late now (MSNBC)	lonestarnot	Jan 2012	#195
OG, glad I missed it!	elleng	Jan 2012	#203
He's approved less regulations than Boosh!	AnnieBW	Jan 2012	#140
Barack Obama...meme killer!	Snarkoleptic	Jan 2012	#140
I'm lovin' it	malaise	Jan 2012	#153
Welp, Obama 2012's POLICY PROPOSALS are certainly to the left of Obama's 2008's RHETORIC.	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#144
lol	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#152
If he keeps it up I won't feel bitter voting for 'em.	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#156
"I am not backing down from making sure an oil company can contain a spill like we saw in the Gulf."	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#145
I do believe the term here is ...	Rosco T.	Jan 2012	#147
Fighting the war against womens rights. n/t	deacon	Jan 2012	#148
Yay Health care! "I will not go back!"	nolabear	Jan 2012	#149
Damn F--k--g Right!!!	BlueDemKev	Jan 2012	#159
Shout out to Consumer Protection Agency!	Honeycombe8	Jan 2012	#154
Pledging no more Wall St. bailouts?	BadgerKid	Jan 2012	#155
"No bailouts, no handouts, and no copouts."	DinahMoeHum	Jan 2012	#189
I must say	EarlG	Jan 2012	#157
For real...	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#163
yes, I saw it too, but it looked really really painful....and it was with a frown.	Alameda	Jan 2012	#174
When I see Republicans smiling...	LongTomH	Jan 2012	#188
He's not on solid ground talking about shaky lending practices...and A.G. Holder. nt	Honeycombe8	Jan 2012	#160
No tax hike on 160M Americans!	Honeycombe8	Jan 2012	#161
Obama's going to overstep, sidestep and step over the Repukes.!! Stop the tax hike!!!!n/t	hue	Jan 2012	#162
Obama says No Drama regarding passing the payroll tax cut bill!	stevenleser	Jan 2012	#165
Bush's tax cuts were supposed to be temporary! I knew it at the time...was really permanent.	Honeycombe8	Jan 2012	#166
What is wrong with Cantor? Geez....he looks like he just ate something really disgusting.	Alameda	Jan 2012	#167
He doesn't like the feel..	one_voice	Jan 2012	#176
eeewwwww! Eric Cantor!!! gag Time to hit the top 1%!	hue	Jan 2012	#168
Oooooh....sour GOP faces when talking taxes.	Honeycombe8	Jan 2012	#170
"so long as those programs remain a guarantee of security for seniors"	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#171
This is good.	Matariki	Jan 2012	#172
Obama: Members of Congress should pay their fair share in taxes. Republicans sit on their hands.	NYC Liberal	Jan 2012	#173
He's on solid ground with this tax talkin'.	Honeycombe8	Jan 2012	#175
How can any American	amuse bouche	Jan 2012	#177
*GO TO THREAD 3!!!*	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#178
THANKYOU!! PLEASE SWITCH OVER!! NT	riderinthestorm	Jan 2012	#185
I don't envy the rich. Taxes should be fair, though.	Honeycombe8	Jan 2012	#179
Boehner and the Republicans Look Pissed	erpowers	Jan 2012	#180
Lol! This is getting too complex for Boehner!	hue	Jan 2012	#182
Obama going after Romney's idiotic "O. hates the rich" meme!	MarkCharles	Jan 2012	#183
Nice	Johnny2X2X	Jan 2012	#186
Man, Obama looks angry. Reminds me of getting lectured by my father there.	Saving Hawaii	Jan 2012	#187
Your Dad Must Have Been One Cool Dude	HangOnKids	Jan 2012	#200
Ban insidertrading by Members of Congress!!!	elleng	Jan 2012	#190
I'm starting to cry. This man needs to be in the White House for four more years.	musicblind	Jan 2012	#191
+1	Matariki	Jan 2012	#194
+1,000,000	Politicub	Jan 2012	#208
Bohner doesn't applaud the words of Abraham Lincoln?	musicblind	Jan 2012	#193
"We should all want a smarter more effective government!"-except the oligarchy that controls Repuks	hue	Jan 2012	#196
What's with McConnell ....sour face...it's like a mask of bitterness	Alameda	Jan 2012	#197
Obama Is Capping On His Rich BFF's	HangOnKids	Jan 2012	#204
Yertle will only vote for 33,000,000 turtle tunnels in the Senate	sfpcjock	Jan 2012	#198
Yertle is still confused as to why he has no chin n/t	HangOnKids	Jan 2012	#205
Republicans (like Newt and Romney) don't know what they are talking about ..	MarkCharles	Jan 2012	#199
Nothing about domestic unrest/ OWS?	Courtesy Flush	Jan 2012	#201
That was conveniently ignored by both sides, wasn't it? n/t	Cleita	Jan 2012	#213
Love the optimism	Politicub	Jan 2012	#207

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:29 PM

valerief (35,681 posts)

1. Prez, there are plenty of tech workers in the US that can't get hired, because companies

would rather hire H1Bs.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:31 PM

undeterred (33,240 posts)

10. And because they just don't want to hire people over 50.

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Response to undeterred (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:34 PM

valerief (35,681 posts)

27. I know that only too well. nt

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Response to valerief (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:35 PM

csziggy (14,216 posts)

33. Or the job "requirements" are unrealistic and the pay a pittance

I've read too many threads where tech jobs ask for 10 years experience for software or a programming language that has only existed for five years, require a master's and twenty years experience but only pay ten dollars an hour. Or the job is not a full time job but an independent contract with no benefits.

Or the tech that DO have the experience are north of fifty and the company does not want to hire anyone over 25.

Just on the few online boards I read messages on have numerous techs that would work for a reasonable salary, decent benefits and a little respect, but they don't even get interviews for the positions that are open.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:44 PM

undeterred (33,240 posts)

100. Yes, here I am.

Or they call something an "entry level position" and when you read the requirements you realize that nobody would possibly have those skills who hasn't been in the field for at least 10 years because you aren't allowed to do certain things without any experience. But they want the sun, the moon, and the stars for $13 per hour and no benefits.

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Response to undeterred (Reply #100)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:49 PM

csziggy (14,216 posts)

209. I live in a "right to work" state

High level tech workers with years of experience earn about $15 an hour. I know someone with ten years experience training people for nuclear subs who then went out and got two master's and still had to work for five years to get to $15. Then his job was outsourced and he's been happy to have any work at just over minimum wage.

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Response to valerief (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:44 PM

The Hitman (497 posts)

96. false

and if you think so, file a complaint with DOL

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Response to The Hitman (Reply #96)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:09 PM

JDPriestly (37,767 posts)

211. If you think there is no age discrimination, you are wrong.

It's easier to prove discrimination when you are fired, but very, very difficult to prove it in hiring so going to the EEOC is pretty much a waste of time for most people. Besides, unless you studied employment law in law school, you probably won't know what documents to keep, how to ask questions of your employer to determine that the real reason you are being fired or not hired is age discrimination.

The age discrimination laws are ineffective. It's sad, but true.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:29 PM

riderinthestorm (13,178 posts)

2. Thank you!! those on dialup are grateful nt

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:30 PM

highplainsdem (11,110 posts)

8. You're welcome! The first thread was getting cumbersome even with a high-speed connection.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:29 PM

Control-Z (8,301 posts)

3. Thank you.

Scrolling is slow on the laptop.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:29 PM

BeyondGeography (21,327 posts)

4. Love the humble Jackie

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:30 PM

SunsetDreams (8,299 posts)

5. Here are links to watch:

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/

Streaming, enhanced broadcast from the Whitehouse, with CHARTS--

http://www.whitehouse.gov/state-of-the-union-2012

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:30 PM

musicblind (3,263 posts)

6. He has mentioned NC multiple times. And named Raleigh specifically

They are really focusing on this state. I wonder what their internal polling says?

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:30 PM

ellisonz (26,319 posts)

7. "It is time to turn our unemployment system into a re-employment system that puts people to work."

(Applause)

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:31 PM

blaze (2,473 posts)

9. ty highplainsdem nt

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:31 PM

musicblind (3,263 posts)

11. How can republicans frown on these ideas? How can ANYONE? n/t

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Response to musicblind (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:45 PM

BlueDemKev (2,599 posts)

109. Because they're thinking...."Shit, how can we run against these things?"

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:31 PM

elleng (40,558 posts)

12. Boner nodded, yes, to 'reemployment.'

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:31 PM

tallahasseedem (4,449 posts)

13. The speech has been wonderful so far!

VERY impressed!

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Response to tallahasseedem (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:36 PM

Hotler (3,675 posts)

40. It's just a speech. It's all about the follow through and

I guess there will be none just like the first term. This is the President that went on 60 minutes and said the bankers did nothing illegal.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:31 PM

liberal N proud (43,767 posts)

14. I hate, no! I loath these fucking pompous Republicans

They hate America!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:31 PM

highplainsdem (11,110 posts)

15. Love the praise for teachers... He's so right about everything he's saying!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:32 PM

sfpcjock (1,912 posts)

16. Obama stopped Chinese tire dumping

Last edited Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:36 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

and the leftovers have been snapped up by Newt

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Response to sfpcjock (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:33 PM

ellisonz (26,319 posts)

20. That's HUGH!!! n/t

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:32 PM

ellisonz (26,319 posts)

17. Backing merit pay...

Wants to stop teaching to the test...

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:38 PM

elleng (40,558 posts)

61. Should get another Secretary of Education.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:32 PM

nolabear (14,769 posts)

18. Yay teachers! Give schools resources!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:32 PM

rainbow4321 (9,192 posts)

19. Poor VP Biden

You can tell he has a cold (using the white hankie at the opening of the speech) but now is doing that "trying to be discreet by making it look like I am scratching my nose when I REALLY need to blow it".

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Response to rainbow4321 (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:37 PM

Phoonzang (2,899 posts)

48. LOL, and he kept hugging Boner.. nt

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:33 PM

stevenleser (13,310 posts)

21. POTUS proposes every state requires that all students graduate or until they turn 18. Wow

Woot!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:33 PM

Enrique (22,652 posts)

22. congress silent through education section

until he mentioned firing teachers. Then big applause.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:33 PM

Hotler (3,675 posts)

23. Too fucking little. Too fucking late Mr. President.

Everything you're talking about should have happened already. I'm turning you off and watching the Daily Show.

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Response to Hotler (Reply #23)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:37 PM

RebelOne (26,856 posts)

46. Bye Bye n/t

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Response to Hotler (Reply #23)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:38 PM

one_voice (11,040 posts)

60. Cuz he's superman!

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Response to Hotler (Reply #23)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:39 PM

Control-Z (8,301 posts)

64. See ya. n/t

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Response to Hotler (Reply #23)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:43 PM

BlueDemKev (2,599 posts)

93. There's the door....

...don't let it hit you in the ass on the way out.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:34 PM

deacon (5,967 posts)

24. He's presenting a perfect tone. A HUGE contrast to those in the clown car. n/t

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:34 PM

msanthrope (16,511 posts)

25. Congress, get off your ass about the student loan % doubling in July. nt

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:34 PM

nolabear (14,769 posts)

26. How will states require kids to stay in school? Will any of them act on that?

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:40 PM

erpowers (5,124 posts)

75. Bad Idea

I don't think any school can prevent a student fom dropping out of school if they do not want to be there. In addition, what happens if these students that do not want to be in school start to act up in order to get kicked out of school? I think a better idea is to provide job training for students that drop out of school.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:49 PM

Cleita (64,562 posts)

136. In some countries they have a choice of finishing a minimum level of education or

going into the army. Could that work?

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:56 PM

JSnuffy (374 posts)

169. Yeah, that's what I need...

A company of misfits who couldn't even deal with high school but somehow I should expect them to handle millions of dollar in equipment and take the lives of other people into their hands.

No thank you...

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:59 PM

Cleita (64,562 posts)

181. So you agree that keeping them in high school is a better option then?

That's my point. He didn't say they had to graduate but stay in until they were eighteen.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:14 PM

JSnuffy (374 posts)

202. They can figure it out on their own if they should stay or go...

If they ain't gonna.. then they ain't gonna...

The military should not be a dumping ground for rejects though. I've got enough to do.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:55 PM

kurt_cagle (493 posts)

214. Oddly, I disagree

Kids drop out for many reasons; drugs, boredom, working too young, broken home life, poor education earlier forcing struggling in more advanced classes ...

Basic training can help to provide discipline and structure, can establish a degree of camaraderie, can give them remedial training in a focused environment and give them skills to make them more competitive. Keep these cadets out of combat zones, and at the age of eighteen they can either choose to re-up (possibly with an automatic jump in pay grade to E-2) or can gain GI benefits towards higher education and a possible career as an officer. If you focus on 16 to 17 year-olds, what this would also do is provide a lot of more basic level support tasks that ordinarily enlistees at 18 would typically be assigned, freeing them up for more advanced work (and training).

In addition to the benefits there, it has larger societal benefits. It's better OTJ training than working at fast food restaurants (which in many cases are now attracting more seniors on fixed incomes who also bring considerably more experience to these places - and consider that until comparatively recently it was not at all uncommon for people in their 60s and 70s to work at restaurants), it may very well provide these kids exposure to technologies and areas of interest that they wouldn't be exposed to in school, and it means that the soldiers that America gets are generally more experienced and mature as well.

Not sure I see a downside to it.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:52 PM

cherokeeprogressive (14,980 posts)

210. I don't think it's at all possible to enforce something like this.

And simply forcing them to "stay... until they were eighteen" means classrooms get disrupted.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:47 PM

Cleita (64,562 posts)

212. Couldn't they be taught a trade?

Most schools have wood shops and auto repair. You could also have beauty school and chef programs. If they are doing things they like, you can sneak in a few classes to meet minimum graduation requirements, couldn't you? I mean having teenage drop outs roaming around in the streets with nothing to do doesn't sound like a very good situation to me either.

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Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:00 AM

cherokeeprogressive (14,980 posts)

215. It's not that I disagree with you...

Remember when you were that age? I remember people who HATED the very notion of school. Auto repair and woodshop aren't new classes.

I just don't see how we go about FORCING 16 and 17 year olds whose home life we know nothing about to go to school every day.

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Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:44 PM

erpowers (5,124 posts)

217. Prefer That

I actually prefer that policy better. Some kids might decide to stay in school to stay out of the military. The other kids that choose to go into the military will at least have a job and a paycheck.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:48 PM

Cleita (64,562 posts)

131. They used to back when I went to school. However, the cut off age was sixteen.

I got into a big fight with the principal of my high school and walked out in the middle of the day announcing that I quit. I went home and she sent a truant officer after me. Yes, we had special police back in those days who made sure kids were in school and not playing hooky, the word for skipping classes. I had just turned sixteen and laughed in his face. However, my parents had a different view of the situation and I was back in school the next day and with a big apology for the principal.

It can be done and it works. I would also put together an education force that checks in on private schools and home schoolers to make sure they are maintaining common educational standards.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:34 PM

hue (2,554 posts)

27. EDUCATION is sooo important!! (goes against the ALEC agenda!!) n/t

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:35 PM

blaze (2,473 posts)

35. What? No bowing to ALEC?

sarcasm implied....

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:35 PM

NYC Liberal (15,600 posts)

29. Republicans don't applaud teachers either.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:35 PM

lonestarnot (71,135 posts)

30. Tee hee fuck you ASU!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:35 PM

ellisonz (26,319 posts)

31. Says states need to make higher education a priority in their budget.

Says tuition needs to stay down, if it keeps rising, federal government will stop subsidizing

Backing the DREAM Act!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:35 PM

highplainsdem (11,110 posts)

32. "Higher education can't be a luxury -- it is an economic imperative"

So many great lines in this speech!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:35 PM

one_voice (11,040 posts)

34. Education cannot be a...

luxury!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:35 PM

musicblind (3,263 posts)

36. I'll be honest thought. Some kids just don't want to learn.

That's the sad truth. And forcing them to remain there until 18 won't make those who refuse to learn... learn.

HOWEVER, I love what he is saying about college interest rates and college education.

I really like what he is saying about colleges.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:37 PM

blaze (2,473 posts)

52. Some kids just learn differently

hands on tech school is great for some learners.... It's not that they don't want to learn

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:43 PM

musicblind (3,263 posts)

88. I'm talking as someone whose mother is a teacher and who grew up with a learning disability myself.

I'm not saying that all kids failing in school want to fail.

But there are some kids who simply do not want to learn.

My mother once recommended a girl for honors english and she and her parents refused. They did not want the negative stigma of being in an "honors" class.

So sad.

It is true though, that some kids, just refuse to do any kind of school work.

I love the idea of giving schools more money. I love the idea of alternative education techniques. I love giving families more incentives to keep their children in school no matter what.

I'm just being honest.

Remember... some kids are republican too...

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:40 PM

RebelOne (26,856 posts)

68. That is true. My daughter is a teacher

at a middle school in South Florida, and she has had students that just do not want to learn. Someday they will learn that they cannot get decent jobs without a decent education.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:42 PM

Orangepeel (12,705 posts)

85. Those kids should have the choice of a vocational program in high school

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:36 PM

msanthrope (16,511 posts)

37. Comprehensive immigration reform...NOW!!! nt

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:36 PM

ellisonz (26,319 posts)

38. "We should be working on comprehensive immigration reform right now." - POTUS

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:36 PM

NYC Liberal (15,600 posts)

39. "Opponents of action are OUT of excuses"

Fewer illegal boarder crossings, more boots at the border.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:36 PM

BeyondGeography (21,327 posts)

41. Get off your ass McCain

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:52 PM

TheDebbieDee (8,381 posts)

150. He probably CAN"T get off his ass......

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:36 PM

nolabear (14,769 posts)

42. You gotta hand it to him. He's not leaving anything out. Great job!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:37 PM

Demonaut (3,703 posts)

43. McCain, .....that should be me....that should be me....

so sad

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:37 PM

Saving Hawaii (441 posts)

44. "right now" was clearly the wrong phrase for a drinking game.

burp.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:38 PM

Saving Hawaii (441 posts)

58. thank the lord he just said "this year" instead of "right now".

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:40 PM

ellisonz (26,319 posts)

72. Ho braddah...

...eat the spam musubi if you need!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:44 PM

Saving Hawaii (441 posts)

101. Dangit. I'm not even caught up yet and he says it again.

Should've gone with mavericky.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:37 PM

MarkCharles (2,261 posts)

45. Immigration reform! Wow! About time! n/t

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:37 PM

HipChick (9,421 posts)

47. Who knew John McCain would turn looking constipated into a lifestyle choice?

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:38 PM

nolabear (14,769 posts)

54. Practicing his hamster face.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:38 PM

highplainsdem (11,110 posts)

59. ROTFL! I was trying to decide how to describe that expression of his!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:37 PM

Motown_Johnny (15,463 posts)

49. check and mate on immigration

man

if we can't get something comprehensive just get me something and I will sign it right away

But you know the (R)s won't do anything

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:37 PM

msanthrope (16,511 posts)

50. Women should earn equal pay for equal work....and the repukes don't stand. nt

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:41 PM

Thor_MN (4,607 posts)

77. They are trying to figure out how women are going to get the housework done on top of getting = pay

freaking dinosaurs...

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:37 PM

one_voice (11,040 posts)

51. Women should earn equal...

pay for equal work!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:37 PM

musicblind (3,263 posts)

53. "Women should earn equal pay for equal work."

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What is sad, and upsetting is that this is even an ISSUE in 2012.

And it IS an issue. There are STILL sexist pigs out there and I just don't get it.

How long does it take for sexist idiots to die off...

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:38 PM

hue (2,554 posts)

55. "Women should earn = pay for = work!!" YES!! n/t

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:19 PM

Courtesy Flush (4,248 posts)

206. OMG

It's 2012 and we're still fighting for this?

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:38 PM

Snarkoleptic (2,562 posts)

56. Boner keeps licking his lips. Seems stressed- in need of bourbon and chap stik.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:41 PM

Cleita (64,562 posts)

77. Maybe saddle soap will help. Isn't that what you use to condition old leather? n/t

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:38 PM

msanthrope (16,511 posts)

57. "Put it in a bill and get it on my desk..this year." nt

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:39 PM

Saving Hawaii (441 posts)

67. Think he wants an immigration fight during the election year?

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:40 PM

msanthrope (16,511 posts)

74. Yes. He wins it. nt

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:43 PM

ellisonz (26,319 posts)

86. I've been saying for months...

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...we don't win wedge issues by running away from them in an election year.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:39 PM

stevenleser (13,310 posts)

62. Whoever gives the response is going to look so small if they go on the attack. n/t

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:44 PM

Mister Ed (1,700 posts)

97. When it's time for the GOP response, we'll have to close this SOTU thread...

...and open the STFU thread.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:39 PM

AnnieBW (6,419 posts)

63. Support research and innovation!

Yeah, baby!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:39 PM

Motown_Johnny (15,463 posts)

65. Drill Baby Drill !

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:39 PM

Matariki (15,029 posts)

66. Oh, BOO to offshore oil.

say it isn't so.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:40 PM

nolabear (14,769 posts)

69. He never fails to make me realize he loves this country.

All of it.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:40 PM

Matariki (15,029 posts)

70. Nice response to alternative energy!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:40 PM

amuse bouche (1,718 posts)

71. How fantastic is it

to have a speech with no references to 'mushroom clouds' That speech made me vomit

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:40 PM

MarkCharles (2,261 posts)

73. Republicans applaud natural gas and offshore oil? Of course! n/t

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:41 PM

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (6,600 posts)

76. Oh no

He slammed fracking.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:41 PM

IamK (956 posts)

79. DRILL BABY DRILL!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:41 PM

sfpcjock (1,912 posts)

80. Paul Ryan toolishly laughing at Obama proposing an All-Of-The-Above strategy for energy development

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:41 PM

ellisonz (26,319 posts)

81. Calling for more clean energy...

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:41 PM

NYC Liberal (15,600 posts)

82. "It was PUBLIC RESEARCH DOLLARS that developed this technology"

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:42 PM

hue (2,554 posts)

83. Hmmm, Boehner must have taken His mood stabilizers tonight!! n/t

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:42 PM

AnnieBW (6,419 posts)

84. LOL! Remind them that Government research led to fracking

Government doesn't do anything? Right?

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:43 PM

Mojorabbit (12,777 posts)

95. I can't believe he is for fracking. nt

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:43 PM

IamK (956 posts)

87. any solandya workers in the house?

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:44 PM

Motown_Johnny (15,463 posts)

97. there are no solandya workers anymore

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:43 PM

Robb (38,357 posts)

89. "We've subsidized oil companies for a century. THAT'S LONG ENOUGH."

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:47 PM

Matariki (15,029 posts)

121. Yes! That was awesome!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:43 PM

FirstLight (8,471 posts)

90. did he say natural gas? as in FRACKING? right?

nooooo!
If he's talking about cleaner energy, where the ALTERNATIVE power sources?

(granted, I am coming to the party late, and having loading issues so I have only gotten a few sentences...but that doesn;t sound right)

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:47 PM

GReedDiamond (1,662 posts)

125. He said that...but he "qualified" it with...

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...the mutha-frackers need to disclose the chemicals they're using (even as they generate "small" earthquakes).

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:43 PM

TroglodyteScholar (4,543 posts)

91. The Duke of Orange makes Big O look yellow!

Truly unsettling.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:43 PM

highplainsdem (11,110 posts)

92. Time to end subsidies for oil industry!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:43 PM

stevenleser (13,310 posts)

94. Wow, he went there on the Oil industry being subsidized!!! Woot!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:44 PM

lonestarnot (71,135 posts)

99. Thank you thank you thank you Mr. President!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:44 PM

sfpcjock (1,912 posts)

102. ...Congress ass-kicking in progress

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:02 PM

Matariki (15,029 posts)

192. +1 for a well deserved ass-kicking!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:44 PM

renate (7,929 posts)

102. OT--my little daughter thought the Supreme Court weren't clapping because they're nuns

She also asked, perfectly seriously: "You know how Obama was the first black president? If the guy with white hair wins, will he be the first... well, stupid president?"

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:47 PM

Gidney N Cloyd (10,457 posts)

118. Ha! Who was the guy with the white hair?

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:51 PM

renate (7,929 posts)

143. Gingrich :)

I don't know how she picked him out of the (R) field as the stupidest... I guess because those mental giants Cain, Perry, and Bachman have dropped out.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:45 PM

BeyondGeography (21,327 posts)

104. Obama: You won't get off your ass, so I will continue to kick it

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:45 PM

joshcryer (39,764 posts)

105. I like this line on clean energy:

It’s time to end the taxpayer giveaways to an industry that’s rarely been more profitable, and double-down on a clean energy industry that’s never been more promising.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:45 PM

malaise (106,120 posts)

106. Watching Obama here reminds me of a famous Bill Maher line

Obama will fuck you up

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:49 PM

ellisonz (26,319 posts)

133. "Obama will fuck you up"

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:45 PM

msanthrope (16,511 posts)

107. Holy shite--he's using the military to purchase clean energy....

Nice move...

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:46 PM

valerief (35,681 posts)

114. Now that's defense spending I can get behind! nt

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:45 PM

highplainsdem (11,110 posts)

108. You can tell how great this speech is by the unhappy looks on Republicans' faces.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:46 PM

AnnieBW (6,419 posts)

110. Infrastructure!

Including high speed broadband. Fuck, yeah!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:46 PM

denbot (3,355 posts)

111. On DOD renewable energy

The West Los Angeles V.A. Hospital is installing solar panels over all it's parking lots. Yeah!!!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:46 PM

musicblind (3,263 posts)

112. Obama loves this country. Newt/Mitt love themselves.

That really is the difference, and it shows here.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:49 PM

BlueDemKev (2,599 posts)

134. Amen.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:46 PM

Drunken Irishman (24,587 posts)

113. Obama is fucking killing it!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:47 PM

highplainsdem (11,110 posts)

123. +1,000,000

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:47 PM

amuse bouche (1,718 posts)

115. I have to laugh at the light shining on him from the heavens

I am sick of seeing sourpuss Republiclowns sitting on their rears pouting

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:47 PM

Phoonzang (2,899 posts)

124. I saw that too....awesome. nt

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:47 PM

Motown_Johnny (15,463 posts)

116. a peace dividend

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:47 PM

lonestarnot (71,135 posts)

117. Bouncy Bouncy Bounce

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:47 PM

BlueDemKev (2,599 posts)

119. Look At Boehner's Face.....

....the dufus looks like he's swallowed a lemon.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:47 PM

ellisonz (26,319 posts)

120. "Take the money we're no longer spending on war, use half of it to pay down the debt...

...and use the rest to do some nation-building at home."

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:51 PM

Gidney N Cloyd (10,457 posts)

146. But how much of that war money have we been borrowing?

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:53 PM

ellisonz (26,319 posts)

158. We are not going to cut our way out of a depression. n/t

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Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:59 AM

Gidney N Cloyd (10,457 posts)

216. Agreed. I just don't like to suggest there'll be a 'peace dividend.'

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:47 PM

nolabear (14,769 posts)

122. Nation Building! Fuck yeah!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:48 PM

BlueDemKev (2,599 posts)

126. We Need Nancy Pelosi back in the Speaker's Chair

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:52 PM

elleng (40,558 posts)

151. That's a MUST!

Would help if grinch ran for POTUS, instead of mittens.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:48 PM

AnnieBW (6,419 posts)

127. Nice purple tie there, Geithner

Too bad the Ravens lost on Sunday.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:48 PM

IamK (956 posts)

128. Sweet... another chance for banks to rip people off on "refinance"

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:48 PM

hue (2,554 posts)

129. Infrastructure!!! Construction!! Rebuild!! Refinance!! Screw the 1 %!!!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:48 PM

highplainsdem (11,110 posts)

130. "We'll give those banks that were rescued by taxpayers a chance to repay a deficit of trust."

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:49 PM

Robb (38,357 posts)

135. It's like his staff reads DU.

I distinctly remember someone floating that idea.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:49 PM

mopinko (39,666 posts)

132. timmy looks like he swallowed a lemon.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:49 PM

Orlandodem (998 posts)

137. Obama/Duncan education policy is total bullshit. He can't call for merit pay at the same time he is

calling for an end to teaching to the test. Merit pay is based on test scores.

I HATE Arne Duncan. He is such a smarmy ass jerk.

He can shove Race to the Top up his ass. Notice he didn't use the phrase but he isn't changing his failed policies which are turning off a significant voting bloc - teachers.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:50 PM

sfpcjock (1,912 posts)

138. Bombs going off all over Camp Pen tonight for clean energy projects on public lands

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ending oil subsidies and investing the peace dividend!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:50 PM

stevenleser (13,310 posts)

139. Fellow DUers, let me just say, THAT is MY President. nt

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #139)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:59 PM

musicblind (3,263 posts)

184. +1

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:50 PM

lonestarnot (71,135 posts)

140. Did Droopy Dog just call Mr. President a son of a bitch?

That's what it looked like to me.

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #140)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:55 PM

elleng (40,558 posts)

164. Who? Where?

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Response to elleng (Reply #164)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:04 PM

lonestarnot (71,135 posts)

195. Lebermanheavepileof shit. Too late now (MSNBC)

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:15 PM

elleng (40,558 posts)

203. OG, glad I missed it!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:50 PM

AnnieBW (6,419 posts)

140. He's approved less regulations than Boosh!

Ooooh, that's gotta hurt the Repugs!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:50 PM

Snarkoleptic (2,562 posts)

140. Barack Obama...meme killer!

Makin' the pugs very uncomfortable.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:52 PM

malaise (106,120 posts)

153. I'm lovin' it

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:51 PM

joshcryer (39,764 posts)

144. Welp, Obama 2012's POLICY PROPOSALS are certainly to the left of Obama's 2008's RHETORIC.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #144)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:52 PM

ellisonz (26,319 posts)

152. lol

Join the team, Joshua.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #152)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:53 PM

joshcryer (39,764 posts)

156. If he keeps it up I won't feel bitter voting for 'em.

But damn it's going to suck having to defend The Most Consistent President Evar.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:51 PM

ellisonz (26,319 posts)

145. "I am not backing down from making sure an oil company can contain a spill like we saw in the Gulf."

+Mercury rules.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:51 PM

Rosco T. (5,889 posts)

147. I do believe the term here is ...

Kicking ass and taking names!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:51 PM

deacon (5,967 posts)

148. Fighting the war against womens rights. n/t

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:51 PM

nolabear (14,769 posts)

149. Yay Health care! "I will not go back!"

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:53 PM

BlueDemKev (2,599 posts)

159. Damn F--k--g Right!!!

The Affordable Care Act MUST be preserved.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:53 PM

Honeycombe8 (18,012 posts)

154. Shout out to Consumer Protection Agency!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:53 PM

BadgerKid (3,730 posts)

155. Pledging no more Wall St. bailouts?

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:00 PM

DinahMoeHum (12,321 posts)

189. "No bailouts, no handouts, and no copouts."

n/t

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:53 PM

EarlG (13,424 posts)

157. I must say

This is quite refreshing after wall-to-wall RomGrich the last couple of weeks.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:55 PM

ellisonz (26,319 posts)

163. For real...

...I just saw Eric Cantor clapping.

CHURCH!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:57 PM

Alameda (1,643 posts)

174. yes, I saw it too, but it looked really really painful....and it was with a frown.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:00 PM

LongTomH (4,000 posts)

188. When I see Republicans smiling...

I get really scared!!!!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:54 PM

Honeycombe8 (18,012 posts)

160. He's not on solid ground talking about shaky lending practices...and A.G. Holder. nt

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:54 PM

Honeycombe8 (18,012 posts)

161. No tax hike on 160M Americans!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:54 PM

hue (2,554 posts)

162. Obama's going to overstep, sidestep and step over the Repukes.!! Stop the tax hike!!!!n/t

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:55 PM

stevenleser (13,310 posts)

165. Obama says No Drama regarding passing the payroll tax cut bill!

Woohoo!!!!!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:55 PM

Honeycombe8 (18,012 posts)

166. Bush's tax cuts were supposed to be temporary! I knew it at the time...was really permanent.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:55 PM

Alameda (1,643 posts)

167. What is wrong with Cantor? Geez....he looks like he just ate something really disgusting.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:58 PM

one_voice (11,040 posts)

176. He doesn't like the feel..

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of Obama's foot up his ass!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:56 PM

hue (2,554 posts)

168. eeewwwww! Eric Cantor!!! gag Time to hit the top 1%!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:56 PM

Honeycombe8 (18,012 posts)

170. Oooooh....sour GOP faces when talking taxes.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:56 PM

joshcryer (39,764 posts)

171. "so long as those programs remain a guarantee of security for seniors"

There. Obama just promised not to gut any of those programs.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:57 PM

Matariki (15,029 posts)

172. This is good.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:57 PM

NYC Liberal (15,600 posts)

173. Obama: Members of Congress should pay their fair share in taxes. Republicans sit on their hands.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:57 PM

Honeycombe8 (18,012 posts)

175. He's on solid ground with this tax talkin'.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:58 PM

amuse bouche (1,718 posts)

177. How can any American

not love the guy?

He's so personable and has so much common sense

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:58 PM

ellisonz (26,319 posts)

178. GO TO THREAD 3!!!

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002216128

GOBAMA!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:59 PM

riderinthestorm (13,178 posts)

185. THANKYOU!! PLEASE SWITCH OVER!! NT

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:58 PM

Honeycombe8 (18,012 posts)

179. I don't envy the rich. Taxes should be fair, though.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:58 PM

erpowers (5,124 posts)

180. Boehner and the Republicans Look Pissed

A short while ago both John Boehner and John Cornyn. Boehner was squirming and looking angry. Cornyn just looked angry.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:59 PM

hue (2,554 posts)

182. Lol! This is getting too complex for Boehner!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:59 PM

MarkCharles (2,261 posts)

183. Obama going after Romney's idiotic "O. hates the rich" meme!

Nicely done!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:00 PM

Johnny2X2X (737 posts)

186. Nice

He hit that out of the park on the tax inequality issue. Hardly can be accused of dividing anyone.

It begins, Obama is starting to motivate the masses once again.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:00 PM

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