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derby378

(30,252 posts)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:46 PM Jan 2013

Okay, DUers - time to design the $1 trillion coin

I'd suggest rhodium or iridium as the metal to mint it with, but to avoid a court battle, let's go ahead with platinum.

My vote is for a 13-sided coin (for the 13 original colonies), 50 millimeters wide and 5 millimeters thick. Put Benjamin Franklin on the front and the signing of the Declaration of Independence on the back.

Your turn.

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Okay, DUers - time to design the $1 trillion coin (Original Post) derby378 Jan 2013 OP
I don't care what it looks like aintitfunny Jan 2013 #1
I like the 13 sides Hatchling Jan 2013 #2
Orange? How come? (n/t) derby378 Jan 2013 #4
No doubt for The Orange Man, Boehner nt Hekate Jan 2013 #46
I thought the suggestion theKed Jan 2013 #3
If Reagan's on the obverse, the reverse should incorporate this image: pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #16
I think I'd go with "In Via Muri Credimus" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #27
Confidimus!! It's evocative of the "con" game those bums played on us! nt MADem Jan 2013 #53
Thank you. KamaAina Jan 2013 #31
'he built it' actually yellow might be better. pansypoo53219 Jan 2013 #54
Someone on the radio suggested this guy: rucky Jan 2013 #5
Not bad derby378 Jan 2013 #6
a pyramid, of course! rucky Jan 2013 #7
Bernie Madoff? GObamaGO Jan 2013 #42
For who to put on it: Reagan or Boehner JHB Jan 2013 #8
How about Boehner fellating Reagan? geardaddy Jan 2013 #60
Here ya go hootinholler Jan 2013 #9
Oooooh, a TOXIC metal! derby378 Jan 2013 #10
I was thinking uranium hootinholler Jan 2013 #12
How about all that depleted uranium we have lying around Iraq, going to waste? dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #41
Dubya kissing a sheikh with Cheney's quote: Reagan proved that deficits don't matter Fumesucker Jan 2013 #11
A single $1 trillion coin is such shortsighted and timid thinking... cherokeeprogressive Jan 2013 #13
CZ would be a neat trick derby378 Jan 2013 #15
Maybe they can just fake it. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2013 #17
The problem is the actual logisitcs of what would be done with the coin. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #34
Bush on the front, IN WALL STREET WE TRUST on the back. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #14
Federal law limits whose face can be on a coin to only people who are deceased. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #35
I was thinking since we're going to use a wacky scheme and accounting gimmicks to hughee99 Jan 2013 #18
See above, no living people can be on a coin under the law. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #36
Do you know something about Ken Lay most people don't? hughee99 Jan 2013 #38
D'oh! RomneyLies Jan 2013 #39
I'd make it about the size of a manhole cover Silent3 Jan 2013 #19
I'd like to see the goods such a vending machine would dispense derby378 Jan 2013 #22
I think the coin should be more 3-D and they should mint one for every state...share the $1T Sheepshank Jan 2013 #20
How about this fellow? theKed Jan 2013 #21
A good man - and a civil rights pioneer worth remembering derby378 Jan 2013 #23
Not only civil rights theKed Jan 2013 #33
I think it should be triangular, but with this design on one side muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #24
I'd like to see Mr. Burns on it. what's "release the hounds" in Latin? PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #25
Expedio a canibus? derby378 Jan 2013 #26
'Canes expedite' (or 'canes expedi'), perhaps? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #28
Probably not jmowreader Jan 2013 #30
"If it's a crime to love one's country then I'm guilty." Initech Jan 2013 #44
"Does anyone have change for a button?" PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #48
"Back in my day nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them!" Initech Jan 2013 #57
"So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time." PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #61
Make it a foot in diameter and an inch thick jmowreader Jan 2013 #29
... derby378 Jan 2013 #32
It's illegal to put the face of a living person on a coin n/t RomneyLies Jan 2013 #37
It's also illegal to allow the government to go into default because you don't like spending jmowreader Jan 2013 #63
Actually, that's legal RomneyLies Jan 2013 #65
The 14th Amendment says it isn't jmowreader Jan 2013 #66
No, it doesn't RomneyLies Jan 2013 #67
Why the Nazi measurements? Kaleva Jan 2013 #40
WHAT Nazi measurements? derby378 Jan 2013 #43
millimeters. Nazi measurements Kaleva Jan 2013 #45
HUH???? hobbit709 Jan 2013 #49
It's a joke from a comedy skit. The metric system is Nazi and thus Un-American. Kaleva Jan 2013 #59
Blame the French derby378 Jan 2013 #50
It's more sinister sounding if one says the metric system is Nazi! Kaleva Jan 2013 #58
It's gotta be Dubya! Larrymoe Curlyshemp Jan 2013 #47
Ronald Reagan on the coin--no contest. MADem Jan 2013 #51
Great find! derby378 Jan 2013 #55
They could inscribe "War Without End, Amen" on it--that sounds vaguely holy! nt MADem Jan 2013 #56
To stick it to our friends in the Tea Party DefenseLawyer Jan 2013 #52
I think it should be made out of lead, and be 14 feet in diameter, and 3 feet thick... SidDithers Jan 2013 #62
The "coin" could be minted in any metal, actually, Art_from_Ark Jan 2013 #64
Reagan on one side and a giant middle finger on the back. Initech Jan 2013 #68
Put Ronald Reagan's Face On It AnnieBW Jan 2013 #69

aintitfunny

(1,421 posts)
1. I don't care what it looks like
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:59 PM
Jan 2013

But I want them to mint the coin. Halt at least some of the abuse of power now held by lunatics who could care less about this Country.

Hatchling

(2,323 posts)
2. I like the 13 sides
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:04 PM
Jan 2013

An I want a crying Bohner on one side and and upside elephant on the other side with x's over it's eyes. Is there a way we can tint the coin orange and still have it platinium?

theKed

(1,235 posts)
3. I thought the suggestion
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:05 PM
Jan 2013

of Ronald Reagan on the back was an excellent one. And probably an inscription of "In Wall Street We Trust" on the front....Google Translate gives "In Murum Platea Nos Confídimus" as the phrase in Latin, but I suspect that's not quite right.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
16. If Reagan's on the obverse, the reverse should incorporate this image:
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 10:14 AM
Jan 2013
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muriel_volestrangler

(101,301 posts)
27. I think I'd go with "In Via Muri Credimus"
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:51 PM
Jan 2013

Via is a more common term for road (though perhaps it's a bit more for roads between cities - I'm not sure). Most of the names I can find use an adjective for the name, and I've no idea if there's such a thing for 'wall' in Latin, so I've gone for the genitive of the noun - 'of the wall'. The 'nos' would be optional - it would emphasis that we trust in Wall Street, even if other people don't. There are several possibilities for 'trust' - confidimus, fidimus, credimus. Since 'credimus' has the sense of 'believe' (like the Credo, a statement of faith), it seems the most appropriate here.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
8. For who to put on it: Reagan or Boehner
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:49 PM
Jan 2013

May need some additive to the platinum to make the color orange.

On the other side, the Articles of Confederation, our first principle document of the national government, to remind people that it did exist, and that our Founding Fathers scrapped it because it left the national government weak enough to drown in a bathtub.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
9. Here ya go
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:21 PM
Jan 2013

A coin with a 4" diameter and 1/4" thick, struck from beryllium or other toxic metal. Reagun on the obverse, an elephant taking a dump on the reverse.

Motto on coin edge: Illegitimi Non Carborundum

derby378

(30,252 posts)
10. Oooooh, a TOXIC metal!
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:23 PM
Jan 2013

Hadn't occurred to me that maybe you should only handle the coin with safety gloves...

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
11. Dubya kissing a sheikh with Cheney's quote: Reagan proved that deficits don't matter
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:27 PM
Jan 2013

I'm not particular about what's on the back

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
13. A single $1 trillion coin is such shortsighted and timid thinking...
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:41 PM
Jan 2013

If ONE is such a good trick, why not have President Obama issue an Executive Order to mint 17 of them? That way we can wash our hands of the National Debt, and with the remaining $500 billion give $2500 (based on a population of 311 million) to every living American Citizen not in the 2%. Think what a shot in the arm THAT would be for the economy!

And since President Obama can be said to have solved the debt problem with a stroke of his pen, we put a bust of HIM on the obverse, and the Capitol Building (since Congress is responsible for the debt problem) on the reverse.

I'm not sure though, whether I'd prefer the coins be made of cubic zirconia, or Fools Gold.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
15. CZ would be a neat trick
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 10:10 AM
Jan 2013

The coins would have to be sculpted instead of minted, yes? That'll cost a little money, too.

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
34. The problem is the actual logisitcs of what would be done with the coin.
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 10:25 PM
Jan 2013

The Fed, at any given time, holds about $1.6 trillion of the national debt.

the deposit to the fed would pay off $$1 trillion of that.

the Fed constantly buys up the securities that make up the national debt, so they would need time before a second $1 trillion coin is struck.

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
35. Federal law limits whose face can be on a coin to only people who are deceased.
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 10:26 PM
Jan 2013

No Bush. Reagan is fair game.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
18. I was thinking since we're going to use a wacky scheme and accounting gimmicks to
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:58 AM
Jan 2013

make debt disappear, make money appear, and make it look like you have money when in fact you have a large debt, perhaps we could put Ken Lay's picture on it, or maybe a giant crooked "E".

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
36. See above, no living people can be on a coin under the law.
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 10:27 PM
Jan 2013

Same portion of the US code that autorizes the Treasury Secretary to strike the coin limits whose face can be on a coin to deceased persons.

Silent3

(15,199 posts)
19. I'd make it about the size of a manhole cover
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:01 PM
Jan 2013

I don't want it to be too easy to walk off with.

Then I want to see a vending machine designed to accept that coin, and make change.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
22. I'd like to see the goods such a vending machine would dispense
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:42 PM
Jan 2013

I'll take a honey bun and the deed to one of Donald Trump's golf courses.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
20. I think the coin should be more 3-D and they should mint one for every state...share the $1T
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:05 PM
Jan 2013

perhaps in the shape of a 4 sided pyramid. All sides being equal in surface area. It's image is already on the dollar bill.

With 5 sides, there's lot of room to put something significant on every side.

1. All seeing eye on one side (gotta make conspirasits happy), with an eagle holding wheat sheaths reflected in the iris.,
2. The numeric and alpha $1 Trillion statement, with come curly certificate-ish graphics in the background.
3. Obama's face on another side, face to face with Bill Clinton with the WH in the background
4. Picture/engraving of the US Treasury Bldg, with some comforting statement about honoring debts
5. A peace sign, next to the state bug for each of the states

theKed

(1,235 posts)
33. Not only civil rights
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 10:22 PM
Jan 2013

but the American labour and socialism movements. All things celebrated by the Democratic Party.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,301 posts)
24. I think it should be triangular, but with this design on one side
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:21 PM
Jan 2013


Why triangular? Because it should be call the Ningi:

The Universe

"Some information to help you live in it.
...
4. Population: none.

It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.

5. Monetary Units: none.

In fact there are three freely convertible currencies in the Galaxy, but none of them count. The Altairian Dollar has recently collapsed, the Flainian Pobble Bead is only exchangeable for other Flainian Pobble Beads, and the Triganic Pu has its own very special problems. Its exchange rate of eight Ningis to one Pu is simple enough, but since a Ningi is a triangular rubber coin six thousand eight hundred miles along each side, no one has ever collected enough to own one Pu. Ningis are not negotiable currency, because the Galactibanks refuse to deal in fiddling small change. From this basic premise it is very simple to prove that the Galactibanks are also the product of a deranged imagination.

http://hitchhikers_guide.webs.com/theuniverse.htm

muriel_volestrangler

(101,301 posts)
28. 'Canes expedite' (or 'canes expedi'), perhaps?
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:58 PM
Jan 2013

The first is an order to several flunkies, the 2nd to just one.

Initech

(100,062 posts)
44. "If it's a crime to love one's country then I'm guilty."
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:01 AM
Jan 2013

"If it's a crime to steal one trillion dollars and hand it over to communist Cuba, then I'm guilty of that."

"And if it's a crime to bribe a jury, then so help me, I'll soon be guilty of that!"

Initech

(100,062 posts)
57. "Back in my day nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them!"
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:42 PM
Jan 2013

"Give me five bees for a quarter you'd say!"

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
61. "So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time."
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:35 PM
Jan 2013

You dropped that part!!



I adore the Simpsons.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
29. Make it a foot in diameter and an inch thick
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 08:01 PM
Jan 2013

Machine it from acrylic and vacuform a layer of platinum foil onto it.

The obverse will have four faces. Reagan, for teaching us taxes are bad and deficits don't matter. Shrub, for taking him literally. Norquist, for being the power behind the throne. And Dick Armey, for inventing the tea party.

On the reverse will be this inscription: "I have 23 more of these. Don't try this again."

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
63. It's also illegal to allow the government to go into default because you don't like spending
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:49 AM
Jan 2013

Okay, just put Ronnie's face on the thing, make it out of pot metal flash-plated with platinum - the cheapest shit they can possibly find - and make it big like a ceremonial check so it'll be easy to see at the deposit ceremony.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
66. The 14th Amendment says it isn't
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:58 PM
Jan 2013

Section 4: "The validity of the public debt...shall not be questioned."

derby378

(30,252 posts)
50. Blame the French
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:37 PM
Jan 2013

They were comfortably using millimeters back when Herr Schicklgruber's father Alois was still in his diapers.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
51. Ronald Reagan on the coin--no contest.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:51 PM
Jan 2013


If you look at American currency, the less of a force you were for good, the higher the denomination you are pictured upon.

George Washington--father of our country--he's on coin and bill, everyone sees his face each and every day. Same deal with Honest Abe, the Emancipator--even the poor can see his face on their money.

Woodrow Wilson? He's on an uncirculated bank note worth $100,000.

On the back, the Pentagon--where most of our money has gone over the past half century or so.

This isn't my design, but it is one I wholeheartedly endorse.

It says so much, so clearly. It also shuts up the "Put Reagan on the currency" crowd--they can be told that he's on the priciest currency we have.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
55. Great find!
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:57 PM
Jan 2013

Of course, the GOP will complain that "In God We Trust" is missing from the design, but still, there's that shiny Pentagon.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
62. I think it should be made out of lead, and be 14 feet in diameter, and 3 feet thick...
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:41 PM
Jan 2013

don't want somone slipping it into their pocket and walking away with it, you know.

Sid

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
64. The "coin" could be minted in any metal, actually,
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:16 AM
Jan 2013

since platinum itself is not a traditional coinage metal (it's only been used since 1997, and only for non-circulating bullion coins), and since the coin would have to contain tons of any metal to give it an intrinsic value of a trillion dollars.

AnnieBW

(10,424 posts)
69. Put Ronald Reagan's Face On It
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 12:33 AM
Jan 2013

And the Pentagon on the back. Show people what their trillion dollars are funding, and who's responsible for it.

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