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Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:14 PM

Big Pharma Donations to Obama Campaign

Obama tops in Big Pharma campaign dollars for 2012
By "Radical" Russ Belville on January 25, 2012



(Credit: OpenSecrets.org)
If I had a dollar for every Obama supporter who told me dont worry, in the 2nd term, then hell be able to support marijuana reforms, because he wont have to worry about it being used against him in a re-election campaign, Id take them all and donate them to the state legalization campaigns in California, Oregon, Washington, and Colorado.

Tell me how this graphic from OpenSecrets.org a list of the top recipients of Big Pharma campaign contributions for 2011-2012 makes that case?

http://stash.norml.org/obama-tops-in-big-pharma-campaign-dollars-for-2012

Hmmmm.... going after medical marijuana, and refusing to look at the connection between murderous rampages and extremely dangerous prescription psychotropic drugs...









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Reply Big Pharma Donations to Obama Campaign (Original post)
warrprayer Jan 2013 OP
JoePhilly Jan 2013 #1
warrprayer Jan 2013 #2
JoePhilly Jan 2013 #4
sharp_stick Jan 2013 #12
JoePhilly Jan 2013 #15
zbdent Jan 2013 #3
JoePhilly Jan 2013 #6
warrprayer Jan 2013 #8
JoePhilly Jan 2013 #9
warrprayer Jan 2013 #10
JoePhilly Jan 2013 #11
warrprayer Jan 2013 #13
JoePhilly Jan 2013 #17
warrprayer Jan 2013 #20
JoePhilly Jan 2013 #22
green for victory Jan 2013 #5
warrprayer Jan 2013 #7
Union Scribe Jan 2013 #14
warrprayer Jan 2013 #16
Union Scribe Jan 2013 #18
warrprayer Jan 2013 #19
warrprayer Jan 2013 #21
warrprayer Jan 2013 #26
woo me with science Jan 2013 #23
blogslut Jan 2013 #24
warrprayer Jan 2013 #25
blogslut Jan 2013 #27
warrprayer Jan 2013 #28

Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:17 PM

1. Obama hates us.

He made Big Pharma donate to him!!!

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:21 PM

2. thank you for being sensible

and saving me from myself! time for more Abilify and another bottle of muscatel!!!

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:25 PM

4. Who drinks Muscatel?

You OP suggests that because Big Pharma gave money to Obama, he has bad intent on an issue you care about, as if he controls who donates to his campaign.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:15 PM

12. It's an Abilify side-effect

keep taking it and you'll graduate to Mad Dog 2020

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Response to sharp_stick (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:19 PM

15. Ahhh ...so it was simply part of a personal attack.

GTK.

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:24 PM

3. "if I had a dollar" ...

dont worry, in the 2nd term, then hell be able to support marijuana reforms, because he wont have to worry about it being used against him in a re-election campaign,

Never heard this "guarantee" ... I wouldn't have a dollar ...

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Response to zbdent (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:30 PM

6. DING DING DING!!!! You just activated the strawman alert system.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:53 PM

8. DING DING DING!!!!

Someone just aactivated the Third Way Patrol Alarm!!!

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:56 PM

9. Oh no ... I've been called a member of the Third Way ... what's next,

you'll send me a DLC pin?

Stick with the manufactured outrage ... it clearly works for you ... and I get a kick out of it.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:00 PM

10. take a walk with me for a minute

and tell me again about my manufactured outrage. this is what I've been looking at and living in since about 2009. I had big hopes that my time spent volunteering on the Obama campaign would bring reform. Obama was my last hope.

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:11 PM

11. OK ... what was I supposed to learn there?

If Obama has to "fix" every person's specific problem, then he clearly can never do enough. Its not possible.

If you disagree ... walk with me and my family.

My niece at 2 had what is usually a deadly cancer. She survived, but after doing so, no insurance company would cover her for anything more than child colds and sports injuries. Which means the Kidney stones she suffered (side effect of the treatment) from were part of a PRE-EXISTING condition. My sister had to figure out how to pay to treat those.

My niece, now 16, has full coverage. She still has the stones. Now they are covered. And, if she has issues EVER AGAIN, including a new cancer, she is covered. It is very likely that Obama has saved her life.

That's my anecdote.

Obama has not fixed your situation, but he did fix one for my niece.

Here's the thing ... neither one really addresses the donations from big pharma.

I do not pretend to know your life situation, and you should not pretend to know mine, or to suggest that yours gives you some special insight into anything.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:17 PM

13. My situation

Has given me plenty of "insights" Said insight isn't "special" - it is one being shared by low income/homeless people all over the country. And best wishes for your niece. But, I can tell you where I live has been hit so hard by the crash something really needed to be done. And it wasn't.

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:22 PM

17. Fine ... but still ... what does that have to do with the topic of your OP?

What specifically did Obama say he was going to do?

Or, lacking that, what is it you think he must do, outside what he claimed he would do?

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:30 PM

20. as someone mentioned on another thread

(and yes I'm veering off op topiuc here) no donors stopped O from starting WPA type jobs programs. And now he is telling us how we on the bottom need to "share sacrafice".

Leave pot alone and start regulating big pharma the way it sould be.

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:42 PM

22. Yes, you did "veer" ...

What form should the regulations you seek take?

Amorphous outrage is easy (as is a suggestion that someone you disagree with is on drugs for schizophrenia).

The more specific you are about what you want to have happen, the more seriously I will take you. Not that you should care how seriously I take you.

But if you want to make a difference, and not just rant, then you need to get very specific about what interum steps you want to see.

Don't just scream a final goal, describe the path, or paths, to reach it.

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:26 PM

5. This guy has some interesting things to say

 

David Healy, Pharmageddon
Has American health care been highjacked by Big Pharma?
http://www.amazon.com/Pharmageddon-David-Healy/dp/0520270983

This searing indictment, David Healy's most comprehensive and forceful argument against the pharmaceuticalization of medicine, tackles problems in health care that are leading to a growing number of deaths and disabilities. Healy, who was the first to draw attention to the now well-publicized suicide-inducing side effects of many anti-depressants, attributes our current state of affairs to three key factors: product rather than process patents on drugs, the classification of certain drugs as prescription-only, and industry-controlled drug trials. These developments have tied the survival of pharmaceutical companies to the development of blockbuster drugs, so that they must overhype benefits and deny real hazards. Healy further explains why these trends have basically ended the possibility of universal health care in the United States and elsewhere around the world. He concludes with suggestions for reform of our currently corrupted evidence-based medical system.

Check out the reviews. David Healy is probably the leading world expert on SSRI drugs.

Free podcast-interview with Dr. Healy- Jefferson Exchange- October 2, 2012 Phamargeddon
http://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/jpr/id/2084251




Drugz r bad k? I mean the authoritarians have told us that for decades...and to make sure we all "got it" they kicked in our doors, shot our dogs, confiscated our property and treated us all like terrorists if we smoked plant flowers.



don't forget the marijuana patent the feds thoughtfully took out on behalf of big pharma and how they're slicing it up so they can sell hundreds of pieces...

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Response to green for victory (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:37 PM

7. That's what I have!!!!

Where can I get my Progenitorivox?!!!

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:17 PM

14. Demonizing people on medications

is not the way to best forward your cause.

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Response to Union Scribe (Reply #14)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:19 PM

16. Not calling for any demonizing

... of people on medication. Calling for strong regulation and control of big pharma. I see those who are prescribed killer drugs as victims also.

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:23 PM

18. Bullshit, you just portrayed them as ticking time bombs

set for mass murder. I don't know if you're just ignorant of the bigotry you're expressing or you're really willing to trash people who need medications just so you can exalt pot, but either way it casts you in a bad light.

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Response to Union Scribe (Reply #18)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:27 PM

19. How is thinking people should be protected

from dangerous prescription drugs bigotry?

kind of like saying I'm demonizing smokers who develop cancer by saying the tobacco industry should be held liable.

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:34 PM

21. gotta run people!

back tomorrow!

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Response to Union Scribe (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:43 PM

26. Bullshit

right back to you. My beloved Sister had severe manic depression and what they then called multiple personality disorder. When she was level, she was wonderful to me. It was from her that I gained my appreciation of music and art, she could draw anything and was always up on the top music, this was in the 50's and 60s. The sad part is that in the 50's and 60's, she was the recipient of the worst the mental health system had to offer in terms of treatment and medication. My Mom kept her at home as long as she could before she eventually was going in and out of the mental hospital. Every year it got worse. I could tell when she was going up on her manic cycle. Compulsiveness, literally running up and down the stairs, obsessively following Mom around the house. Till one day she got into an argument with Mom, attacked her and nearly killed her. After that, the only time I saw her was on trips to visit her in the hospital. The medications caused her to develop a number of illnesses, she became anemic and had half her toes amputated. Not to mention what she must have endured receiving shock treatments, which was much in vogue at the time.

edit - forgot to mention - that is where she died.

So spare me the "bigotry" crap.

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:56 PM

23. Kick

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:03 PM

24. Deflection is fun!

And sad.

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Response to blogslut (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:33 PM

25. deflection?

I don't own guns and support stricter gun laws. I also feel if big pharma put as much money into R&D as it does into buying politicians and advertising, thus controlling the media, a lot of these tragedies might not happen.


http://ssristories.com/index.php

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:29 PM

27. Blaming mass shootings on psychiatric drugs = deflection

You know this. You're not fooling anyone.

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Response to blogslut (Reply #27)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:40 PM

28. O.K.

you just called me a liar. Goodbye.

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