Just how Loonie Toons is Alex Jones?

[Archae]

Courtesy of "Media Matters:"

■The Oklahoma City Bombing was "carried out by intelligence agencies" with "Bill Clinton's involvement."

■The government is using products like juice boxes to "encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people don't have children."

■The U.S. government was behind the 9/11 attacks. Jones describes himself as being on "the front lines of the growing global information war from ground zero to the occult playgrounds of the power-mad elite. Jones predicted the attacks on September 11th, 2001 and is considered one of the very first founding fathers of the 9-11 Truth Movement."

■The government has set up FEMA concentration camps in America, and "the military-industrial complex is transforming our once free nation into a giant prison camp."

■President Obama is transforming the United States into "something that resembles Nazi Germany, with forced National Service, domestic civilian spies, warrantless wiretaps, the destruction of the Second Amendment, FEMA camps and Martial Law."

■The BP oil spill "could have been manufactured."

Jones has also pushed numerous conspiracy theories about weather control, mass sterilization, and the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster. In June 2012, Jones' Infowars.com promoted the myth that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) was using drones to spy on Midwestern ranchers. Finally, the radio host has declared that Obama's birth certificate is a fraud.


I'm hoping that with this, both Alex Jones and Piers Morgan have jumped the shark, and are headed for the obscurity they both deserve.

[SidDithers]

1. The rationalwiki page on Alex Jones is pretty good too...

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Alex_Jones



Sid

[GeorgeGist]

40. Got it ...

“You see, 666 is a doubling of 33. And 33 is pi."
—Alex Jones[1]

[EC]

2. who is he? n/t

[WCGreen]

3. Sounds like late night AM talk show fodder to me...

Art Bell would be proud.

[Archae]

4. Even Art Bell would have avoided Jones.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

10. Funny you would mention Art Bell...

It was pointed out to me that Alex Jones is often on Coast to Coast AM. Which I'm told has went full on RW conspiracy since Bell retired.

[Archae]

25. Correct.

When they aren't having some Moon landing "hoax" advocate on, or some guy who fell out of a flying saucer on his head, they have on Jerome Corsi.

[regjoe]

5. LOL! That's not all now, is it?

He also claims:
The wealthy are enslaving us.
The wealthy use government to make more money.
The wealthy use us to fight their wars.
The bankers are in control.
GMOs are bad.
The TSA is a bunch of power hungry goons infringing on our rights.
That the x-ray machines at the airport are bad for our health.

Anybody who actually listens to Alex Jones knows that all of his "conspiracies" come from one idea: The wealthy ruling elite control everything.

[ellisonz]

6. So Alex Jones makes some sense, eh?

[regjoe]

7. Sometimes, yes

and anybody who says never, knows nothing of him or is lying.

IMO, people fear him because they agree with a lot of what he says.

[zappaman]

9. "IMO, people fear him because they agree with a lot of what he says."

Welcome to all our Alex Jones fans!
Enjoy your stays!

[ellisonz]

20. So I'm a liar?

Because I've perused his nonsense when it occasionally surfaces here and I think he's a loon and I don't take the bullshit loons use as loon cover very seriously. Funny how he sounds a heck of a lot like Lyndon LaRouche - peas in a pod - Alex Jones just exists in an Internet era.

Also, I fear no man, or woman.

[regjoe]

23. Do you consider all of his claims to be "nonsense?"

[ellisonz]

24. Yes.

You can't make an Arnold Palmer without some lemonade to go with that iced tea.

[NYC Liberal]

35. Since conspiracies do exist and happen, if you label EVERYTHING as one

you're going to be right a few times.

[Javaman]

29. jones employs the bullshit scatter gun...

if he spews enough, he's bound to hit something.

[rppper]

31. There's a saying that....

If you put 10,000 monkeys in a room with typewriters the statistical odds say one will type out the bible....jones and his like are making a killing selling cheap gold and freeze dried food to nitwits...

[JaneyVee]

8. Broken clocks syndrome.

[Erose999]

11. He uses a tiny pebble of truth and build a mountain of bullshit out of it. And then tries to pass it

off as credible based on the tiny pebble of truth. He's a snake oil salesman.

[Poll_Blind]

12. This is how I see him as well. Any demagogue is going to do essentially the same thing.

Take a little bit of truth, embellish it beyond all reason with inappropriate conclusions, pass it off as the gold standard for Truth.

A very old shtick.

PB

[nolabear]

13. Like he's not trying to make a buck off the fearful.

Rule One of sucking them in: Find the fear and fan the flames.

[spanone]

14. he's out of his fucking mind...they're showing him on cnn right now

i'm a pacifist, but i'd love to take a fist to this fuck.

[Poll_Blind]

16. Then you're just as sucked into his shtick as his fans are.

He, his entire everything, is an act. To make money. An act.

Look, lemme use a different example which isn't going to be related to him and might be easier to "get": On the Young Turks, they have a "No Ann Coulter Rule". They even mentioned it on one of their shows. Nomatter what that crazy freak says or does, they'll almost never report it or comment on it.

Because it's an act. She, just like Jones, is an act, a shtick.

If you're letting people like Jones or Coulter or Limbaugh wind you up, you're doing their work for them.

PB

[spanone]

18. wind me up? try makes me ill. john wayne gacy had a schtick too.

[Poll_Blind]

22. Nah. See John Wayne Gacy was a serial killer. A serial killer. Not a media celebrity talking head.

Confusing the two: Going to be spending a lot of your time shadow boxing shadows that want you to spend your time boxing them.

Look at how much coverage Jones has on this site alone from an interview that (AFAIK) was literally like a hand full of minutes long!

PB

[Redford]

15. I was listening one day when he had Jesse Ventura on

They were saying that Lee Harvey Oswald was really a hero trying to save JFK and got set up by the Illuminati/Industrial Military Complex.

Pretty sure I never have listened to him since.

[Behind the Aegis]

17. He surpasses "Guano" level.

Squirrel shit isn't even as nutty as he is. Though I must say, I have seen bullet point #5 some where other than his site, being pimped by others. Where have I seen it?!

[Johonny]

19. how does a responsible media agency put this man on their station?

other than massive comic relief and massive self-promotional propaganda what does he have to offer? Yet the media gives him face time while other voices with value to add to American journalism are simply locked out of the market.

[Turbineguy]

26. Sounds like a pretty normal wingnut to me.

If we declare him insane, he's no longer resposnible for this drivel.

[riverbendviewgal]

27. He is a con man like Glenn beck

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/alex-jones-net-worth/

Alex Jones is an American talk radio host, actor and filmmaker with a Net Worth of $5 Million. He is best known as being the host of a conservative talk show that is nationally syndicated by the Genesis Communications Network to more than 60 stations around the US. Some people describe him as a right wing conspiracy theorist, because he blames many attacks (Oklahoma City bombing and 9/11) as being “inside jobs” meaning the US government was involved. He has been arrested several times for inciting violence at protests. He’s originally from Texas, and records his radio programs from there. Although rather controversial, he has a fairly large following.

[Kalidurga]

28. Loony toons or an average Right Winger?

I swear I have heard otherwise normal right wingers spouting this kind of thing. Luckily most of them are apolitical and don't vote.

[former-republican]

30. Why did a jury vote to hide this?

regjoe This message was hidden by Jury decision. Hide

21. So there is only a "tiny pebble of truth"

behind the claim that the wealthy are using government to steal our money? That companies like Monsanto influence government to convince people that GMOs are good for them? Ok.

The point of my post though, was not that Alex Jones is always right, but that we should treat info from him no different than we treat info from others. That we should take that info, research it and come to our own conclusions

[Archae]

32. What we should do is find a different source.

I wouldn't trust Alex Jones to be accurate as far as I can throw him.

Even a legit news story will be taken by Jones and distorted to the Nth degree. At best.
He's worse than Faux "news" at editing sound bites, and rewriting news releases.

So if Jones is touting a news story, find his source, and link to that.

[former-republican]

37. I don't trust anyone to be accurate , that includes most of the talking heads

on the MSN.

Voting republican as I have in the past.

The one person so far it seems I trust the most for her reporting is Rachel Maddow.

She will at times stick up for the administration when she shouldn't but for the most part
she's pretty accurate on her reporting.

[Warren DeMontague]

33. You've only been here since last August, so let me break it down for you.

Alex Jones, Prisonplanet, and infowars are NOT acceptable "sources" on DU.

Period.

[former-republican]

34. Then why have a thread about him if everything he says is dismissed

on the site?

[Warren DeMontague]

36. Probably the same way people can talk about how stormfront is full of racist shitwits

But they certainly cant post material from there for "thoughtful consideration"

[former-republican]

39. gotcha .... it makes sense

[JoePhilly]

38. Wiley Coyote thinks Alex is insane ... that is how Loonie Toons Alex is.