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Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:24 AM

 

My neighbor falsely told my wife that her paycheck just went down in order to fund Obamacare

My ignorant Obama-hating neighbor told my wife that her paycheck decreased $30, adding that this was part of an effort to fund "Obamacare."

In fact, Obama pushed hard to extend the payroll tax cut, but Congress didn't want to, and by the way, this has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Obamacare or health insurance.

I'm not telling my neighbor she's wrong because I sometimes I borrow her shovel and she makes good coffee. But I told my wife the facts.

By the way, she has expressed her intention to by a handgun because she thinks citizens will soon not be allowed to get one. There's no evidence to think that either.

Do you have an ignorant neighbor like that? Please discuss.

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Reply My neighbor falsely told my wife that her paycheck just went down in order to fund Obamacare (Original post)
Welcome_hubby Jan 2013 OP
ehrnst Jan 2013 #1
Welcome_hubby Jan 2013 #3
Javaman Jan 2013 #9
Lasher Jan 2013 #25
ehrnst Jan 2013 #15
Panasonic Jan 2013 #24
Fumesucker Jan 2013 #2
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #4
Welcome_hubby Jan 2013 #5
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #7
Welcome_hubby Jan 2013 #10
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #14
Welcome_hubby Jan 2013 #16
narnian60 Jan 2013 #22
dorkzilla Jan 2013 #27
Fumesucker Jan 2013 #29
leftynyc Jan 2013 #35
narnian60 Jan 2013 #44
alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #12
reformist2 Jan 2013 #6
Welcome_hubby Jan 2013 #8
HubertHeaver Jan 2013 #11
Welcome_hubby Jan 2013 #13
HubertHeaver Jan 2013 #19
Capt. Obvious Jan 2013 #17
leftyohiolib Jan 2013 #18
CatWoman Jan 2013 #20
Flashmann Jan 2013 #21
Moonwalk Jan 2013 #28
Flashmann Jan 2013 #42
maryellen99 Jan 2013 #23
Moonwalk Jan 2013 #26
Ikonoklast Jan 2013 #34
Moonwalk Jan 2013 #45
dkf Jan 2013 #30
dbennett Jan 2013 #31
OKNancy Jan 2013 #32
dbennett Jan 2013 #33
leftynyc Jan 2013 #36
stevenleser Jan 2013 #43
dbennett Jan 2013 #37
cyberswede Jan 2013 #38
CatWoman Jan 2013 #39
cyberswede Jan 2013 #41
dbennett Jan 2013 #40

Response to Welcome_hubby (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:25 AM

1. Is that what his employer told her?

I wonder...

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:27 AM

3. She hates Obama. I think she made that up

 

So I think she assumed Obama is doing this "Obamacare" thing because Obama haters don't think before they judge his actions. She is also lazy (I take her trash out every other day), which may explain why she doesn't do research on the facts.

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Response to Welcome_hubby (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:38 AM

9. she probably got it from faux news or rush. nt

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Response to Javaman (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:23 AM

25. The Heritage Foundation is pushing this misconception.

Among others.

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Response to Welcome_hubby (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:47 AM

15. Ah. I love to ask conservative family members where they heard their "infomation" on Obama.

They usually just throw up their hands at my outrageous obsession with "sources" and "data" when discussing issues.

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Response to Welcome_hubby (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:36 AM

24. As a matter of principle and to teach her a lesson about liberterainism

 

I suggest you leave her trash alone. Let her figure out how to take it out.

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Response to Welcome_hubby (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:26 AM

2. ...

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Response to Welcome_hubby (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:29 AM

4. Yeah, just throwin' that out there huh?

I mean certainly no one else here has a neighbor like that....so let's make sure we get that story out there, huh?

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:31 AM

5. Uh oh, here come the paranoids.

 

Now I, who debunked my neighbor's story, am somehow trying to spread disinformation. Wait! You forgot to say I'm a newbie because I have less than 300 posts. LOL.

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Response to Welcome_hubby (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:36 AM

7. I'm glad you debunked the story

Usually "OH MY GOD IS THIS TRUE???" posts are just too obvious.

You know that there are about a dozen "Payroll tax holiday ends, fuckin' Obama!" threads floating out there already, right? why not just tag your story on to that?

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:40 AM

10. No. I don't know that there are a dozen such posts?

 

How do you know I know that?

When my wife told me what the neighbor said, I did my research instead of coming to DU to find out how many threads related to Obamacare/payroll cut exist, which would be weird.

Face it.

You were playing detective, eager to find a nonexistent troll. Now you are forced to bicker about thread styles. FAIL.

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Response to Welcome_hubby (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:45 AM

14. "Don't you know" is rhetorical

Read GD before you post. I always make sure before I make a new post I'm not just repeating something that's been done to death all day (like this type of story has since last Friday).

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #14)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:49 AM

16. So I happened to the the first repeater whom you scolded ?

 

lol. Let me repeat. You were looking for a nonexistent troll, and you didn't find him; now you pretend this is about you being an anti-repeat-thread watchdog. That's not what it's about. You originally didn't care about repetition. FAIL.

Hey, can you go find out whether there were anti-Brennan posts before I posted an anti-Brennan thread? If I wasn't the first, please scold me!

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:21 AM

22. It is members like you that make us newbies hesitant to post.

Just because we don't know all the ins & outs of the "correct" ways to use this site does not give you the right to blast away at our posts. My very 1st post to DU was pretty naive in retrospect, but it didn't deserve the nasty first response I got. Thankfully, the next couple of posters made up for it. Lighten up, please!

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Response to narnian60 (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:33 AM

27. Hear, Hear!!

Some here can be SO tiresome and NASTY. I had the same experience early on, but the nice people on this board outweighed the bullies, happily.

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Response to narnian60 (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:34 AM

29. Some of them even make the old timers hesitate to post

Believe me, having thousands of posts is no protection..



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Response to narnian60 (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:03 PM

35. Never be hesitant to post

I've been here over a decade and pay no mind to the thread police. They're tedious and obviously have too much time on their hands. Trolls will always out themselves eventually.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #35)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:49 PM

44. Thanks to you all for your support!

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:42 AM

12. ROFL

10/17/12.

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Response to Welcome_hubby (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:33 AM

6. These Repug lies are going to backfire when we explain the truth to people.


Of course it's annoying, but we have to keep in mind that every time they get caught lying like this, their credibility drops another notch, and more people get turned off by their real message.

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Response to Welcome_hubby (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:38 AM

8. Just modified the title

 

A member just warned me that I should have changed the title, because some members only read titles.

I agreed and added that my neighbor falsely said Obamacare was the reason for the tax hike, because proving her false in the body will only reach members who read entire posts.

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Response to Welcome_hubby (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:41 AM

11. Does your neighbor understand she just told your wife her salary?

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Response to HubertHeaver (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:44 AM

13. My wife has known her salary for a long time

 

She's a long time neighbor.

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Response to Welcome_hubby (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:04 AM

19. Usually people are rather protective of salary information.

Quite often though, they do not understand percentage relationships and just how much information they are giving away.

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Response to Welcome_hubby (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:57 AM

17. Move

Problem solved

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Response to Welcome_hubby (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:58 AM

18. buy your own shovel and coffee and tell her the truth

 

Last edited Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:13 PM - Edit history (1)

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Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #18)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:08 AM

20. we have a winner

ding ding ding!!!!

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Response to Welcome_hubby (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:20 AM

21. Do you have an ignorant neighbor like that?

Yes,as a matter of fact,I do....However,the little story I want to relate isn't about him.....It's about a local Wendy's hamburger joint.....The wife didn't want to cook last night,not wanting afterwards,to have to use the kitchen sink,because of a repair that used a sealant that needs to cure for 36 hours....

So we decided on burgers & fries,for ourselves and for our 3 dogs....We don't give the dogs burgers all that often,but when we do it's usually Wendy's triples,plain..No cheese,no anything...The price is always around $5.50 each.....Last night,they were like $7.29,or there about...Thinking there must be some error,she spoke to the manager on duty,and was told that prices had gone up at the 1st of the year to pay for Obamacare..

When she got home and told me this,it just didn't make sense that one burger would jump by almost $2.00,when Papa John whined about needing to raise the price of one crap pie by 14 cents...It got sorted out once we opened the "dog burgers".....They were bacon cheese burgers,triples,which do cost the $7.29..The burgers she ordered still remain at the former $5.50ish price....

They screwed up the order,giving us and charging us for a more expensive burger,then claiming a price increase due to the ACA....

This signals two things to me.......One,that manager is a complete idiot......Two,I think it clearly signals an intent to go all Olive Garden,cutting employee hours and/or raise prices.....

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Response to Flashmann (Reply #21)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:33 AM

28. I think you should find out who the manager's manager is and complain to them...

...both about the wrong order and the Obamacare comment. Let them know that if Wendy's is trying to sell politics with their product than you'll start buying from some other burger place that doesn't do that. Especially not if the politics they're selling with the burger is a pack of lies.

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Response to Moonwalk (Reply #28)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:34 PM

42. complain to them

Last edited Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:56 PM - Edit history (1)

The wife let them know,at the store last night,that we wouldn't be back...First thing this morning she e-mailed the Corporate office,for whatever good that might do....I think there is a limit to what Corporate can dictate to Franchise owners....She is gone for the day and we don't access each others e-mail accounts,so I don't now if they even replied....

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Response to Welcome_hubby (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:26 AM

23. another lie that I have heard

the payroll tax holiday was ended in order to pay for President Obama's Hawaii trip

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Response to maryellen99 (Reply #23)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:30 AM

26. Wow. The price of going to Hawaii has certainly gone up...

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Response to Moonwalk (Reply #26)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:59 PM

34. Hawaii is on the Moon. You should know that.

Little known fact: Cost three-quarters of a trillion dollars to get there on vacation.

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #34)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:01 PM

45. Surely not! Virgin Galactic is only charging $200,000 for a sub-orbital trip....



Can't cost more than oh, say a cool million for a nice comfy trip to the moon.

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Response to Welcome_hubby (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:49 AM

30. The ACA did add to the medicare tax for high income earners

 

Additional Medicare Tax
A new Additional Medicare Tax goes into effect starting in 2013. The 0.9 percent Additional Medicare Tax applies to an individualís wages, Railroad Retirement Tax Act compensation, and self-employment income that exceeds a threshold amount based on the individualís filing status. The threshold amounts are $250,000 for married taxpayers who file jointly, $125,000 for married taxpayers who file separately, and $200,000 for all other taxpayers. An employer is responsible for withholding the Additional Medicare Tax from wages or compensation it pays to an employee in excess of $200,000 in a calendar year. The IRS and the Treasury Department have issued proposed regulations on the Additional Medicare Tax. Comments may be submitted electronically, by mail or hand delivered to the IRS. For additional information on the Additional Medicare Tax, see our questions and answers.

http://www.irs.gov/uac/Affordable-Care-Act-Tax-Provisions

But she may be confusing the lapse of the payroll tax holiday.

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Response to dbennett (Reply #31)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:41 PM

32. this has nothing to do with the lapsing of the Social Security holiday

Premiums on insurance have nothing to do with taxes.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #32)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:44 PM

33. agreed

 

Should have offered clarification. Higher is higher though, right?

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Response to dbennett (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:06 PM

36. NOthing to do with the President

This holiday was ending no matter who was in the White House. That's the point the morons refuse to hear.

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Response to dbennett (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:02 PM

43. You have disrupted, poorly. nt

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Response to dbennett (Reply #37)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:08 PM

38. It's not an increase. It's the expiration of a tax holiday.

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Response to cyberswede (Reply #38)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:10 PM

39. somebody took a wrong turn, it appears

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #39)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:12 PM

41. Yeah - letting their low-information flag fly!

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