Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:44 PM

Liberal_Stalwart71 (13,853 posts)

Why is the Corporate Media billing the SOTU as a "political campaign speech"?

State of the Union addresses are *constitutionally* mandated and are traditionally given around this time of year.

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Why is the Corporate Media billing the SOTU as a "political campaign speech"? (Original post)	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2012	OP
They can't help themselves to facts;	elleng	Jan 2012	#1
I assume your question is rhetorical? nm	rhett o rick	Jan 2012	#2
Because the corporate overloards want the "librul" media to bill it that way.	liberal N proud	Jan 2012	#3
Sadly MSNBC pundits have followed suit. I've heard both Tweety and Ed repeat the same LIE...	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2012	#4
There are indications that the SOTU will be partisan. If so, it would be unusual.	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#5
Mitt Daniels is giving the rebuttal and it is said to be brutally partisan!	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2012	#7
SOTU itself isn't partisan usually, the rebuttals always are. But I was wrong.	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#11
He is not being partisan. There are a number of his proposals that are REPUBLICAN-supported	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2012	#13
In 8 years as president, George Bush NEVER gave a non-partisan SOTU	loudsue	Jan 2012	#14
Of course its political	SaintPete	Jan 2012	#6
I understand that, but that wasn't the question. SOTU's are always political but the M$M is going to	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2012	#8
I get you. I guess I'm getting jaded	SaintPete	Jan 2012	#15
Just following their orders. nt	Cognitive_Resonance	Jan 2012	#9
It's political, but it always has been. But it's only bad if you're a Democrat.	NYC Liberal	Jan 2012	#10
Yeah, but find me one that wasn't political, or...	TreasonousBastard	Jan 2012	#12
Because they usually are, especially in an election year.	Angleae	Jan 2012	#16
That is true. The manner in which the address is given is not mandated, but the president	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2012	#19
They are too lazy to discuss the issues. n/t	deacon	Jan 2012	#17
Because it was.	UnrepentantLiberal	Jan 2012	#18

Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:48 PM

elleng (40,548 posts)

1. They can't help themselves to facts;

politics in the air this month/week, that's all, folks.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:49 PM

rhett o rick (26,749 posts)

2. I assume your question is rhetorical? nm

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:51 PM

liberal N proud (43,752 posts)

3. Because the corporate overloards want the "librul" media to bill it that way.

The GOP has been setting this official function of the President as political for days.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:55 PM

Liberal_Stalwart71 (13,853 posts)

4. Sadly MSNBC pundits have followed suit. I've heard both Tweety and Ed repeat the same LIE...

I mean...MEME...

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:55 PM

joshcryer (39,760 posts)

5. There are indications that the SOTU will be partisan. If so, it would be unusual.

SOTU is typically unity, not bashing the other side, etc.

I frankly don't believe he's going to be partisan, but that's how the media is spinning it.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:13 PM

Liberal_Stalwart71 (13,853 posts)

7. Mitt Daniels is giving the rebuttal and it is said to be brutally partisan!

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:25 PM

joshcryer (39,760 posts)

11. SOTU itself isn't partisan usually, the rebuttals always are. But I was wrong.

Obama's being fairly partisan so far.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:02 PM

Liberal_Stalwart71 (13,853 posts)

13. He is not being partisan. There are a number of his proposals that are REPUBLICAN-supported

It's just that the Republicans suddenly have acted as if those ideas are not theirs.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:10 PM

loudsue (12,383 posts)

14. In 8 years as president, George Bush NEVER gave a non-partisan SOTU

address.

Republicans have always been partisan. They have no identity by themselves.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:01 PM

SaintPete (533 posts)

6. Of course its political

it's crafted and delivered by a politician, and followed by a politicized rebuttal from an opposing party politician.

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Response to SaintPete (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:14 PM

Liberal_Stalwart71 (13,853 posts)

8. I understand that, but that wasn't the question. SOTU's are always political but the M$M is going to

task to make it more than what it usually is.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:15 PM

SaintPete (533 posts)

15. I get you. I guess I'm getting jaded

because all I can think of is "of course it's political, and OF COURSE the MSM are propagandists"

I want to be surprised by the real "state of our union." I want to be angry, incensed, and disgusted by the negatives in our society, but bad news doesn't shock me anymore.

I wish to hell it did...

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:17 PM

Cognitive_Resonance (985 posts)

9. Just following their orders. nt

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:19 PM

NYC Liberal (15,600 posts)

10. It's political, but it always has been. But it's only bad if you're a Democrat.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:35 PM

TreasonousBastard (20,920 posts)

12. Yeah, but find me one that wasn't political, or...

a campaign speech in an election year.

Maybe Washington had a neutral one...

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:09 AM

Angleae (2,071 posts)

16. Because they usually are, especially in an election year.

P.S. The "address" isn't constitutionally mandated. Only the report. It can be written and delivered by courier to congress. There is not requirement to POTUS to deliver it verbally or in person.

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Response to Angleae (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:44 AM

Liberal_Stalwart71 (13,853 posts)

19. That is true. The manner in which the address is given is not mandated, but the president

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IS required by the Constitution to address the Congress "from time to time."

Article II, Section 3:

"He shall from time to time give to Congress information of the State of the Union and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient. ” — Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 05:43 AM

deacon (5,967 posts)

17. They are too lazy to discuss the issues. n/t

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 05:51 AM

UnrepentantLiberal (11,700 posts)

18. Because it was.

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