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Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:54 PM

Restaurant rethinking allowing concealed weapons after customer shot

LENEXA, Kan. - A Johnson County restaurant is reconsidering its concealed weapons policy after a customer was accidentally shot by her husband last week.

Servers at the Longbranch Steakhouse in Lenexa, Kan., jumped into action when the woman was shot at her table on Wednesday. According to the Lenexa Police Department, her husband accidentally shot her with his small caliber handgun while sitting across from her in a booth.

"He reached in his pocket and accidentally discharged a weapon in his pocket," Officer Dan Friesen said.

The woman was hit in her left leg just above her knee. She was treated and released from the hospital the same night.


Read more: http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/local_news/Lenexa-restaurant-rethinking-allowing-concealed-carry-weapons-after-customer-shot#ixzz2HLvYRWS2

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Reply Restaurant rethinking allowing concealed weapons after customer shot (Original post)
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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:55 PM

1. She would have been safe had she been armed.

 

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Response to Speck Tater (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:13 PM

7. No, seriesly! Her gun could, had she bin packin

Instead of bin laden, would have hit hubby's bullet and saved her!

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Response to Speck Tater (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:14 AM

21. Hell yeah. She coulda taught him a lesson for shootin' her, alright.








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Response to Speck Tater (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:01 AM

29. No shirt, no shoes, no sidearm, no service

no text

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Response to Speck Tater (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:03 AM

30. This

Is Classic, the very definition of why liberals don't like guns, one of the top excuses, that people are more likely to be shot by their own weapons.

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Response to Speck Tater (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:26 PM

53. lol n/t

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Response to Speck Tater (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:35 PM

84. Ziiiinnnnggg! LOL!! nt.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:56 PM

2. Well waddya know???

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:56 PM

3. "He reached in his pocket and accidentally discharged a weapon in his pocket"

You can take that several different ways.

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Response to rightsideout (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:58 PM

5. ...

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Response to rightsideout (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:57 PM

85. Damn. I am glad that I don't live in Kansas, Oklahoma or the South. As a result, I

only imagine what it like to take a bullet while having dinner.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:58 PM

4. Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me.

Ouch, its an idiot with a loaded gun, an idiot with a loaded gun.

Fortunately, he was able to defend himself from his wife's witty repartee.

(The above statement contained sarcasm.)

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:05 PM

6. There is a reason they make holsters.

They even make pocket holsters....

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:17 PM

9. What!? Holsters are the solution?

I think unarmed idiotic civilians in public is the solution.

No holster can protect anybody from idiocy.

Sheesh! Some people just do not get it.

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Response to longship (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:35 PM

10. Correct, you don't get it. I will explain it.

The reason the gun went off was because either the owner put his fingers into the trigger guard when he did not intend to, or something else in this pocket went into the trigger guard and pulled the trigger.

Either way, had the gun been in a holster, the trigger would have been covered and this "accident" would not have happened.

Now you know.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:42 PM

12. But can he conceal it in his pocket if it's in a holster?

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:44 PM

15. They make holsters specifically for that purpose.

To prevent exactly what happened.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:47 PM

16. Sounds like an appropriate anniversary gift from his wife.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:12 PM

44. Could be the only thing she gives him for a loooonnng time. nt

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:54 AM

23. Yes. I carry a snub nosed .38 caliber revolver in a pocket holster ...

in my right pants pocket. The holster actually hides the shape of the revolver and prevents any possibility of an accidental discharge.

Of course the type of pants you wear while carrying can make a big difference. I don't try to wear tight jeans while carrying my handgun. I usually chose to wear cargo pants or shorts or relaxed fit jeans.

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Response to spin (Reply #23)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:26 PM

54. When?

 

Is your gun for terror-filled expeditions like dangerous missions to church, or the 7-11?

You never know when a mad squirrel will jump on you while you are walking to your (presumably armor-plated) car.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #54)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:42 PM

60. So he can look gangsta'

Hip hop...youth culture

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Response to bongbong (Reply #54)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:36 PM

70. I have responded to you numerous times ...

and explained why and when I carry a legally concealed weapon.

I see little reason to do the same again. You have your opinion and I have mine.

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Response to spin (Reply #70)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:38 PM

71. OK!

 

Stay safe!

BTW, what kind of armor plating do you have on your car? You never know when somebody will ram you.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #71)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:06 PM

77. Since I am not an important person ...

I do not have any armor plating on my car. You may feel that I am excessively paranoid as I do regularly carry a legally concealed weapon and you have every right to that opinion. However I am not so paranoid that I feel any need to armor plate my vehicle.

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Response to spin (Reply #77)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:25 PM

78. Gotta give it to you

 

You understand your own level of paranoia (as well as recognizing it as paranoia), and have (carefully?) determined it is at a level to justify a gun but not an armored vehicle.

I wonder if other Delicate Flowers have put as much thought into making sure no "bad guy" gets them.



(If the NRA gets into the armored-car business, watch out! I predict a sudden upsurge in the "immediate need" that the Flowers will have for a tank!)

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Response to bongbong (Reply #78)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:04 PM

80. What I don't think you realize is that I carry a legally concealed weapon as a ....

last resort for the slim possibility that I might have to use it against an attacker who seriously intends to severely injure or kill me and has the ability to do so.

While the chances of this ever happening are somewhere around slim to none, it still could happen.

I'll use some dated statistics from 1987 to back up my point. I really don't see a reason to waste too much of my time on this post as I will not change your views. Admittedly our society is somewhat safer than it was in 1987 for many reasons and one of those may be the spread of "shall issue" concealed carry which became law in October of 1987 in Florida. You may argue that the spread of concealed carry across our nation had little effect on the crime rate but I will point out that it didn't cause the crime rate to increase substantially.


83% TO BE VICTIMS OF CRIME VIOLENCE
Special to the New York Times
Published: March 09, 1987


Eighty-three percent of 12-year-old children in the United States will be victims or intended victims of violent crimes at least once in their lifetimes, the Justice Department reported today. Fifty-two percent will be victims of such crimes more than once.

Using figures compiled by the Government's National Crime Survey from 1975 through 1984, the department has calculated for the first time an individual's chance of becoming a victim of violent crime in his or her lifetime.

***snip***

Men are more likely to be violently assaulted than women, the study found. Eighty-nine percent of 12-year-old boys can expect to become victims of violent crimes, as against 73 percent for girls. Nearly one in four men will be robbed, but only one out of five women.

***snip***

Almost 3 out of 4 households will be burglarized at least once in a 20-year period, and theft without forcible entry will occur in 9 out of 10 homes. Urban households have a 93 percent of being burglarized, and rural homes 82 percent.
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/03/09/us/83-to-be-victims-of-crime-violence.html


Now if some street thug comes up to me and asks for my wallet, I will evaluate him. If I seriously believe that all he wants is the wallet I will give it to him. I can always replace my money, my credit cards and my ID but I can't replace my health or my life easily.

But if the attacker is acting in a manner that indicates that he is going to beat the crap out of me or injure or kill me with a weapon, I will use my own weapon to try to stop his attack. I am 66 years old with a bad back and a hip that needs replaced. I have lost most of the martial arts skills that I learned 20 years ago and I have no desire to try to defeat a much younger and far more physically fit person as I doubt that I would be successful.

People differ. You may feel that I am excessively paranoid. I don't expect my house to burn down but I have fire alarms and extinguishers available. I wear a seat belt when I drive five blocks to the grocery store. I have an emergency medical kit in my home and car. I have a NOAA weather radio to alert me to an approaching tornado.

My own personal life experiences have taught me that it is often better to be prepared than to feel that nothing bad will ever happen to me.

Considering that I have been target shooting handguns for over 40 years on a regular basis it is not surprising that I carry a very light and compact revolver with me. Most of the regular shooters that I know here in Florida do the same.

If I were as paranoid as you feel I would carry one of my 1911 .45ACP pistols with me as they are far more effective at stopping an attack than the mouse gun I do carry. Since I have no real fear of ever being attacked my .38 snub nosed revolver is more than adequate and is very easy to conceal and comfortable to carry.







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Response to spin (Reply #80)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:59 PM

86. Hmmmmmm

 

> and one of those may be the spread of "shall issue" concealed carry which became law in October of 1987 in Florida.

Statistics prove that's wrong, but "please proceed".

> You may feel that I am excessively paranoid.

Whether it's paranoia or a false sense of security, I don't know. Statistics do prove that you're more likely to get injured or die from gun violence if you own one, however. If you live in Garrison Keilors' town where everybody is above average than maybe you can beat the odds.





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Response to bongbong (Reply #86)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:47 PM

87. Thanks for your polite reply. ...

I think we can agree to disagree.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:40 PM

58. They have pocket holsters

And also holsters that clip onto your waistband and ride inside your waistband. There are also paddle holsters.

This is how that NY Giants football player shot himself. HORRIBLE and dangerous lack of gun safety.

If someone just has to carry all the time, they need to use a proper holster.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #58)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:46 PM

62. The holster would be a good step

 

So Americans can identify which of their fellow citizens are suffering from paranoid delusions and Rambo-syndrome-schizophrenia. It makes it easier to steer clear of them in case they snap.

Like the NRA says, it's all about the Mental Illness.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #62)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:40 PM

72. If you walked up to me on the street ...

you would have no idea that I had a legally concealed handgun in a pocket holster in my pants pocket.

You would only see me as a polite older gentleman with a bad limp.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:44 PM

14. I get it! Idiots with guns in public with HOLSTERS! And everything will magically be fine forever.

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Response to Chorophyll (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:47 PM

17. Not for everything, but for this case, yes.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:08 AM

19. So, more laws, like

mandatory holsters?

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:15 AM

22. That would be a radical interpretation of what I wrote.

Not all good ideas need laws to push them. But feel free to champion the cause if you so desire.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:51 PM

39. Unless you mandate the use of such holsters, what you've said is fairly worthless.

Holsters in this case wouldn't help because the idiot didn't use one. Perhaps a law mandating holster use would have helped here, or a law barring idiots from packing heat would have helped, but holsters undeniably exist and they undeniably did nothing good here. Decent gun laws would have helped here. Little else.

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Response to EOTE (Reply #39)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:08 PM

41. I don't see the need for any such law.

That is probably because I have a strong sense of responsibility. I also do not approve of laws for adults requiring seat belts and motorcycle helmets even though I use them and recommend them.

Current laws already exist in most states for using negligence to charge the shooter should the prosecutor choose to do so.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #41)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:11 PM

43. So what you've said is utterly worthless.

It would have been even more help if the idiot never had a gun to begin with. Armchair quarterbacking is useless in these situations. Only sensible laws passed with regard to guns would help (while fully acknowledging that quite a few gun owners are idiots like the one referenced above).

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Response to EOTE (Reply #43)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:16 PM

45. Laws only work if they are enforced.

How would a new law requiring holsters be enforced where the currently existing laws would not get the job done?

Don't get me wrong. Adding a new holster requirement to the laws would certainly make the prosecutor's job easier in that he no longer needs to do an extra 20 minutes of research...

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #45)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:41 PM

46. There ARE no current laws that would have prevented that idiot from shooting his wife.

Aside from, of course, the law that prevents any innocent from being shot. But having to prove you're fit to own a gun certainly might have. Or a law that makes proper fire arm safety a requirement might.

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Response to EOTE (Reply #43)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:59 PM

48. It might have helped if the idiot in question weren't an idiot in the first place.



Bake

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Response to Bake (Reply #48)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:41 PM

59. Sure, but do you suggest a law outlawing idiots?

If not, then we need to address the behaviors the idiots take with laws. I don't know if there's a law that states that all concealed firearms need to be holstered at all times when not in use, but I'd think that one would be fairly common sense.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:56 AM

24. Sheesh! The problem is people carrying loaded weapons!

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Response to longship (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:40 AM

34. Unloaded ones are not very effective...

 

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Response to Coyote_Tan (Reply #34)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:44 PM

73. Ah, the light bulb finally went on.



Unloaded guns being the best sort(not ).

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:41 AM

27. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Yeah, that's it!! Holsters! Magic things that will prevent all gun accidents!!

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Response to Zoeisright (Reply #27)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:48 AM

28. Holsters are answer to world peace. Didn't you know that?

I heard they were using holsters to treat cancer too. If he only had 'no' gun at all. Maybe he would have accidentally dropped his steak knife on her foot. But they have knife sheaths for that. Maybe Knife sheaths could cure cancer too.

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Response to Zoeisright (Reply #27)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:06 AM

31. LOL

> Holsters! Magic things that will prevent all gun accidents!!

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Response to Zoeisright (Reply #27)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:59 PM

74. However there is no doubt that holsters do prevent many gun accidents. ...

Of course a fool can defeat all the safety features of a properly designed holster by not following basic firearm safety rules.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:15 AM

33. You have to pull the trigger? Now why didn't someone explain that to us a long time ago!

Does everyone know about this, could save quite a few lives if word gets out.

It is true that a holster would have saved his wife from a gun shot wound, but it would not have prevented a gunshot injury. This idiot would have shot himself when he was placing the gun in it's holster. And with any luck his wound would have prevented him from reproducing.

This idiot wouldn't have used a holster if he had one, he was obviously so paranoid he didn't even use the safety.

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Response to A Simple Game (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:40 PM

36. That is one hypothesis.

Your crystal ball might be better than my K-mart special.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:37 PM

64. Also the safety would have been covered...

 

...and would not have been flipped to "unsafe" when he shoved his keys in the pocket earlier.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:48 PM

65. No, the gun went off because the idiot was carrying it and was too stupid to keep his hands off.


Probably had several NRA training courses where they talk more about shooting people than safety.

Hopefully restaurants and other public places will be forced to prohibit gun toting or face law suits when an "accident" occurs.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:11 PM

68. Do they know what kind of weapon this was?

People that walk around with weapons not on safety are idiots. People that could possibly reach into their pockets and accidentally discharge a double-action are idiots. If you walk around with a weapon that only requires you to brush the trigger in order to fire-you are an idiot.
By the way, I am not talking to you-but a generic "you"--unless it applies.

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Response to longship (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:20 PM

50. Why does this remind me of Barney Fife?

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:17 PM

8. Too bad he didn't scramble his own eggs

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:38 PM

11. Its her fault

cause she should have had her kevlar leg warmers on. Doh!

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:42 PM

13. Sounds like she married the wrong guy.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:16 PM

81. Ha, I know I'll never walk up to the bar and ask for a shot again! n/t

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:03 AM

18. I can understand the ownership/management

of tbis restaurant considering changes in their policy on this subject. What I cannot understand is the management of the Denny's in Illinois and Village Inn in Arizona asking COPS to disarm themselves.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:10 AM

20. I support IQ tests for gun ownership. nt

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:10 AM

25. another gun incident

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:40 AM

26. No fucking duh.

The stupidity of some human beings knows no bounds.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:19 AM

32. That's the chance you take with concealed carry.

Do a risk/benefit analysis, folks.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:45 AM

35. There are some people who carry 24-7

I can't imagine the mental turmoil, paranoia and anxiety that must go along with that.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #35)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:43 PM

37. You have no need to imagine what is not there.

> I can't imagine the mental turmoil, paranoia and anxiety that must go along with that.

What leads you to believe that there is any mental turmoil, paranoia and anxiety to start with?

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #37)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:47 PM

38. The need for a civilian to carry 24/7 -

is the evidence. Only someone deeply paranoid would feel that necessity.

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Response to Hell Hath No Fury (Reply #38)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:01 PM

40. You have an odd definition of "paranoid".

The word you are looking for is "prepared".

Yes, the odd of needing a gun at any point in time are very small. In fact most people are lucky enough to go through life beating the odds and never needing a weapon to defend themselves. That is not the point.

For the folks who have the misfortune of getting stuck with the odds, having a set of self defense tools increases likelihood of escaping the bad situation that they were unable to avoid. Trouble does not make appointments.

This is why people have spare tires in their cars, fire extinguishers in their homes, first aid kits in multiple locations. While the desire to never use them is obvious, so is the relief of having them when the need arises. The same thing applies to personal defense weapons, which often times includes a gun.

Like the Boy Scout motto says, be prepared.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #40)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:17 PM

49. "beating the odds and never needing a weapon to defend themselves"


According to FBI crime statistics for the most recent year, the odds of "never needing a weapon to defend themselves" are approximately 99.996%. The unarmed aren't exactly "beating" the odds. The odds are overwhelmingly in their favor.

You have better chance of getting hit by lightning. Since storms have been known to come up with little warning, refusing to ever step foot out of your house for fear of being hit by lightning is more reasonable than refusing to step out of your house without a firearm.

The list of preparedness that you would consider paranoid that has a greater chance of occurring than your need for armed defense is massive.

But, hey, your fear that is much less likely to occur does not make you paranoid.


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Response to ieoeja (Reply #49)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:24 PM

52. Any chance you could link to those stats?

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Response to ieoeja (Reply #49)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:30 PM

55. The greatest amount of mental illness in America

 

Is, by far, the omnipresent paranoia & Rambo-fantasy-schizophrenia that the Delicate Flowers exhibit.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #40)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:46 PM

63. Having to go to the Kansas omelette shop armed is paranoia...eom

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Response to Kolesar (Reply #63)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:09 PM

66. You can never be too prepared!

 

A gang of chickens might come in the shop to take revenge on all the chicken abortions (AKA eggs) that humans are eating. They would of course be armed with all kinds of horrible guns, about to cause a slaughter - but then the Mighty Warrior would save the day by gunning down all the "bad guys" .... err, "bad chickens".

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Response to bongbong (Reply #66)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:11 PM

67. I think I'll fix some dinner

all this talk has given me an appetite

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Response to Kolesar (Reply #67)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:14 PM

69. Stay safe!

 

I would carry at least a couple of dozen assault rifles with 100-round magazines/clips/whatever-Delicate-Flowers-call-them so that if your intended victim (your food) attacks you, you can fight back.

Plus you'll never know if the refrigerator is going to fall over on top of you, and you'll want that firepower to take it out.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #69)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 02:04 AM

88. .

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #37)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:36 PM

57. Common sense?

When I take steps to secure my home, it's with the awareness (worry) of someone breaking in. Without that worry (fear), I wouldn't bother following those steps. Unless the 24-7 gun wearers are psychopaths, they make the decision everyday to carry based on fear of what could happen to them while at home and on the go. They don't even feel comfortable lounging in their own homes without a gun by their side.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #35)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:32 PM

56. A friend

of mine was one of the first in line for concealed carry in Wisconsin. He carries his gun with him 24/7 and is "on the look-out" for a "perp"...

We had a drug-crazed kid (21 years old so I still consider him a kid) use a stolen gun to rob a pharmacy (across the street from the Mcdonald's where my friend was having coffee)...the kid was caught and taken into custody without gunfire eventually.. but my friend was sorry that he didn't try to rob the McDonalds....guess why...

I have trouble with this mentality.

btw...My friend is in his early 70's....and guess which party he belongs to.

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Response to ewagner (Reply #56)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:34 PM

83. That was exactly George Zimmerman's attitude. He obviously WANTED a chance

to pull his gun on what he considered to be a "perp."

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #83)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:50 AM

89. Hero syndrome? n/t

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:10 PM

42. It may take a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun, but how do you stop

An asshole with a gun?

(a clue - only one noun is the same in all 3 examples)

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:41 PM

47. If a restaurant allows concealed weapons, how're they going to know one way or the other?

More to the point, what about restaurants that DON'T allow concealed weapons? The idea of a concealed weapon is that it's -- you know -- CONCEALED.

Patdowns by the person seating you? Moonlighting TSA people? Metal detectors at the door?

I can't see how any of the above would help business any.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:23 PM

51. He wasn't trying to wing her

 

He was just planning on shooting at the food on her plate; he had seen it move and thought it might attack her.

An example of the new SYG (Stand Your Grub) law the NRA has pushed for.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:44 PM

61. Bloody Kansas...eom

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:02 PM

75. I bet their liability insurance just skyrocketed with this event.

They'd be fools not to be re-considering.

They've now had a pretty severe problem occur in their restaurant because of their policy. Their insurance company is getting hit as we speak by the couple's health insurance company. Insurance audits are right around the corner and I'd bet my bottom dollar that policy changes as soon as they get their revised bill.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:05 PM

76. With concealed weapons being just that - concealed -

- there's no way any establishment will know unless they frisk everyone that enters. I imagine we'd all be surprised at how many people we come in casual contact with on a daily basis that are carrying a concealed weapon.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:47 PM

79. ****UPDATE****

Turns out the guy was under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Cops aren't sure which. But he may lose his CCW license.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #79)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:18 PM

82. To me, that's the problem with weapons that are too handy. Fumbling by accident which

this probably was, or intentional because of influence of drugs or alcohol and not a clear mind.

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