Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:05 PM
RomneyLies (3,333 posts)
The wrong goodbye of Barnes and NobleThe wrong goodbye of Barnes and Noble
by Dennis Johnson Maybe you’ve noticed that there seem to be a lot of Barnes & Noble superstores closing lately? Not just stores in remote locations (like, say, this one in rural upstate New York), but in some of the nation’s largest metropolitan shopping areas, such as Los Angeles, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Washington, DC, Seattle, Chicago, two stores in Dallas, another in Austin, and Manhattan. And that’s just in the last 30 days or so. What had been a slow shrinkage as leases ran out — a store here, a store there — turned into an avalanche after Thanksgiving. Stores that should have been well-stocked for the holidays were instead out of inventory and passing time until the end of the year. For a couple of years I’ve been predicting in column after column that B&N was eager to get out of the brick-and-mortar business of selling books, but seeing it finally kick into high gear was no fun. If you include the company’s college stores, this is going to mean 1362 bookstores disappearing from the American landscape — less than two years after 686 Borders stores disappeared. <snip> http://mhpbooks.com/the-slow-death-of-barnes-and-noble/ One year, maybe 18 months is all I give B&N.
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| RomneyLies | Jan 2013 | OP | |
| marybourg | Jan 2013 | #1 | |
| quinnox | Jan 2013 | #2 | |
| RomneyLies | Jan 2013 | #4 | |
| Liberal Veteran | Jan 2013 | #10 | |
| Gidney N Cloyd | Jan 2013 | #3 | |
| RomneyLies | Jan 2013 | #5 | |
| Gidney N Cloyd | Jan 2013 | #8 | |
| RomneyLies | Jan 2013 | #9 | |
| ElboRuum | Jan 2013 | #21 | |
| TlalocW | Jan 2013 | #6 | |
| Buzz Clik | Jan 2013 | #7 | |
| RedCappedBandit | Jan 2013 | #19 | |
| Buzz Clik | Jan 2013 | #20 | |
| duffyduff | Jan 2013 | #11 | |
| RomneyLies | Jan 2013 | #12 | |
| nadinbrzezinski | Jan 2013 | #16 | |
| Nye Bevan | Jan 2013 | #13 | |
| JaneyVee | Jan 2013 | #14 | |
| rhett o rick | Jan 2013 | #15 | |
| quinnox | Jan 2013 | #18 | |
| SirChanceAlot | Jan 2013 | #17 | |
| Lone_Star_Dem | Jan 2013 | #22 |
Response to RomneyLies (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:09 PM
marybourg (2,216 posts)
1. Soon they'll be back to what they were
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when I was a teen-ager: one store in Manhattan. Unfortunately I won't be back to what *I* was then.
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Response to RomneyLies (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:18 PM
quinnox (16,052 posts)
2. Looks like some new room for a book store superstore chain is opening up
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Borders gone, B & N winding down, time for a new book megastore to rise and take over!
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Response to quinnox (Reply #2)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:19 PM
RomneyLies (3,333 posts)
4. I think the megastore is already out there
Response to quinnox (Reply #2)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:50 PM
Liberal Veteran (20,464 posts)
10. Wal-Denbooks Superstore! With (censored books) on the left, groceries on the right....
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.....and Always Low Prices....Always!
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Response to RomneyLies (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:18 PM
Gidney N Cloyd (10,548 posts)
3. I don't get it at all...
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The B&N and Borders stores I've shopped in over the last few years have never had a shortage of customers milling about. The got the bodies in through the doors. They had lines at the checkout.
What part of that is not a successful business plan? How are they different from other chains in other lines of merchandise that pack in customers in the same apparent numbers? |
Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #3)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:20 PM
RomneyLies (3,333 posts)
5. "free shipping for orders $25 or more"
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http://www.amazon.com
The biggest problem is people browsed in the brick and mortars, then went home and ordered from Amazon. |
Response to RomneyLies (Reply #5)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:37 PM
Gidney N Cloyd (10,548 posts)
8. I don't think it's that simple.
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It's not like with people using Best Buy to scope out stuff to buy online. I haven't seen a serious decline in customers in the store or at the registers. I'd like to see some real data beyond the conventional wisdom.
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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #8)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:38 PM
RomneyLies (3,333 posts)
9. Best Buy is on hte way out, too.
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I give them the same 12 to 18 months.
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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #3)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:38 AM
ElboRuum (4,397 posts)
21. Perhaps it has to do with the investment climate?
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I don't know if these companies are publicly traded, and I suppose I could Google that, but assuming they are, just because you have all of these people at the checkout doesn't mean you are adhering to growth projections. These days, unless you're growing by X% every year, you're not "keeping up".
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Response to RomneyLies (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:21 PM
TlalocW (8,957 posts)
6. Kind of too bad
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I like going to all kind of bookstores, libraries, etc., and each one gives me a different, "rush," when I walk through the doors including B&N.
TlalocW |
Response to RomneyLies (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:24 PM
Buzz Clik (29,789 posts)
7. Well, the article in the OP may be falling on deaf ears.
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You must go to a book store to know that it is closing or has closed.
Barnes and Nobles are closing because fewer people are shopping there, and it's a shame. I love book stores, and I really love Barnes and Noble. My daughter goes there and buys books (yes, some teens still love books). We sit in the coffee shop and just bask in the pleasure of it all. This news sucks. |
Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #7)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:21 AM
RedCappedBandit (3,895 posts)
19. Maybe not
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Could allow more local book stores to flourish, no?
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Response to RedCappedBandit (Reply #19)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:26 AM
Buzz Clik (29,789 posts)
20. Excellent point.
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Best bookstores in the world smelll like old paper and have a cat asleep in the window.
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Response to RomneyLies (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:53 PM
duffyduff (1,030 posts)
11. Good ol' "eBooks"
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Last edited Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:53 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Big, big scams those are, since you do not even OWN them.
I really, really, really hate the forcefeeding of virtual crap down my throat when tangible items are so much better and you actually own them. |
Response to duffyduff (Reply #11)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:55 PM
RomneyLies (3,333 posts)
12. Actually, I LOVE eBooks
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I carry my library with me where ever I go.
I've got hundreds. I get tons of them for free from here: http://www.gutenberg.org/ |
Response to RomneyLies (Reply #12)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:56 PM
nadinbrzezinski (121,725 posts)
16. Here is one I recommend
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Was a mandatory HS read...
The Underdogs, a Story of the Mexican Revolution by Mariano Azuela It is worth reading and it's there. |
Response to RomneyLies (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:08 PM
Nye Bevan (11,277 posts)
13. Bricks and mortar stores need to get creative and adapt.
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B&N cannot compete with Amazon on price and selection. But they do have a nice cafe. Perhaps try to become more of a social destination? Have a restaurant and bar that serves dinner, beer and wine? I would love to go to a good dinner, with beer served, where an author was reading from a book and selling signed copies. Come on B&N, get creative!
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Response to RomneyLies (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:09 PM
JaneyVee (4,278 posts)
14. I love B&N, even though I have a Kindle, I still buy paper books.
Response to RomneyLies (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:48 PM
rhett o rick (27,762 posts)
15. The end game of capitalism is here. Hold on to your asses. nm
Response to rhett o rick (Reply #15)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:04 AM
quinnox (16,052 posts)
18. heh
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nice way of putting it.
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Response to RomneyLies (Original post)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:02 AM
SirChanceAlot (13 posts)
17. Adapt or die
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If you choose to adapt, do it quicker than the other organisms in your environment.
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Response to RomneyLies (Original post)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:48 AM
Lone_Star_Dem (27,750 posts)
22. Divine justice, or survival of the fittest?
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Barnes & Noble, the mega bookstore that put so many independent booksellers out of business. I hated B&N for killing my old favorite quaint, eclectic book store. What I heard repeated most often was, if they can't keep up with what America demands they're going to cease to exist. I don't see them being able to compete long term in the ebook trade. Publishers set the prices on all major authors, so they have no leverage there. They don't offer the diverse stock Amazon does, so they can't lure in the volume of shoppers they can. Now there won't even be a cup of java and comfy chair to scan your books from. So I ask, divine justice or survival of the fittest?
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