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Mon Jan 7, 2013, 06:46 PM

I'm Going To Score The Bill Of Rights, To See If They Are Relevant These Days... IMHO...

1st) Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. False

2nd) A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. True

3rd) No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. True

4th) The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. False

5th) No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. False

6th) In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense. False

7th) In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law. False

8th) Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. False

9th) The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. False

10th) The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. False


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Reply I'm Going To Score The Bill Of Rights, To See If They Are Relevant These Days... IMHO... (Original post)
WillyT Jan 2013 OP
WillyT Jan 2013 #1
appal_jack Jan 2013 #26
regnaD kciN Jan 2013 #31
Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #2
WillyT Jan 2013 #3
WillyT Jan 2013 #4
WillyT Jan 2013 #5
WillyT Jan 2013 #6
PETRUS Jan 2013 #7
WillyT Jan 2013 #8
PETRUS Jan 2013 #9
WillyT Jan 2013 #11
PETRUS Jan 2013 #13
WillyT Jan 2013 #14
Fawke Em Jan 2013 #23
TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #10
WillyT Jan 2013 #12
Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #20
WillyT Jan 2013 #22
WillyT Jan 2013 #15
ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #17
Vattel Jan 2013 #16
Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #18
WillyT Jan 2013 #19
WillyT Jan 2013 #21
WillyT Jan 2013 #24
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Jan 2013 #25
grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #27
graham4anything Jan 2013 #28
WillyT Jan 2013 #29
rhett o rick Jan 2013 #30
im1013 Jan 2013 #32

Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 07:32 PM

1. WOW... This Is One Eerily Quiet Thread ???




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Response to WillyT (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:24 AM

26. I support the vigorous exercise of all rights...

I support the vigorous exercise of all the rights enumerated in all ten amendments. Does this make me a good liberal (after all, I am pro-choice, pro-speech, pro-privacy, pro-trial-by-jury, etc.) or does tnis make me an eeee-vul gun nut (because I also support the Second Amendment)?

It's not that complicated: I simply believe that our Constitution and nation both are strengthened when we choose to interpret each right as broadly & vigorously (i.e.-'liberally') as possible. Why would any self-respecting liberal have a problem with this?

-app

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Response to WillyT (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 20, 2013, 12:32 AM

31. It might help if you gave reasons for your "true" and "false" ratings...

Otherwise, they just seem like your personal unsupported opinions.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 07:50 PM

2. I suspect most didn't read through. Good post, though.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 07:52 PM

3. Either That... Or It Was Too Depressing To Contemplate... But Thanks !!!






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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:40 PM

4. It's Quiet In Here... Too Quiet...


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Response to WillyT (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 09:20 PM

5. Fa La La La... La La La La...

Denial... it ain't just a river in Egypt.


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Response to WillyT (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:06 PM

6. Wow...






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Response to WillyT (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:12 PM

7. Hey man, I just got here.

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Response to PETRUS (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:14 PM

8. YAY !!! - A Playmate !!!






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Response to WillyT (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:24 PM

9. Don't s'pose you'd wanna play Monopoly, would ya?

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Response to PETRUS (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:27 PM

11. Oh... We Got Washington D.C. And Wall Street Playing That Currently...

"How about a nice game of chess ?"




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Response to WillyT (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:51 PM

13. ...









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Response to PETRUS (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:08 PM

14. Yep...




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Response to WillyT (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:51 AM

23. Watched that the other night with my 13 year old son.

Had to explain what a VDT was. LOL!

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:27 PM

10. Sadly, I think you pretty well have it right on.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:32 PM

12. I Got Mad After Listening To A Piece By The ACLU... And It Came To Me...

And yeah... it is totally sad.

My old man fought for the Marines in the South Pacific in WWII, and again in Korea.

THIS... is NOT what he was fighting for. Quite the opposite.




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Response to WillyT (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:30 AM

20. It creeps up on you

It has been a slow progression to where we are now. Be interesting to see where we end up.

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Response to Mojorabbit (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:50 AM

22. Oh Yeah, It Will Be...

"Those that forget the lessons of... "

Well.. you know.




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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:26 PM

15. Just What I Suspected... Crickets...

Thank you to the few who participated.

And for the rest of you... have a nice night's sleep.


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Response to WillyT (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:43 PM

17. A link to the test, or other context, would probably help.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:39 PM

16. What is your point exactly?

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:14 AM

18. Oh...dear...

 

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #18)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:22 AM

19. Now To Be Clear... And I Thought It Was... (But See Above...) There Was No Test...

I just took the text, bolded the numbers, and MY feelings of whether those things were true anymore.

Maybe I was being too obtuse ?

I was hoping others would play along.

And I DID look for such a test on the web, but ALL of them were test on one's knowledge of the Bill of Rights, and NONE of them on whether they (the Rights) were still relevant.







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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:35 AM

21. Changed The Subject Line For Clarity. There Was No Test/Quiz.


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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:26 AM

24. G'Night All


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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:16 AM

25. Really great post! It's depressing to see so few people here care about this. It's the reason

 

we're passing down a worse world to our children than was passed down to us. Drones, illegal search, illegal spying, the right to peacefully petition our government, its gone and you can see by the response you've gotten how many people really care. What's happened to the democratic party? Is it the food, the sports, the trash TV, the pharmaceuticals, are we just lazy, or is the constitution no longer important to our party? I'm beginning to wonder what it is we stand as a party for now days.

Shouldn't this be first and most important to all of us as Democrats? Not only as a party but as Americans.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:44 AM

27. OOOOH! That gets a Tweet!!

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:10 AM

28. Nationalize everything. Like they say, states rights are a code word for racism

 

Arizona has more than proven we need to abolish states rights. Insanity in that state, clearly against everything America was suppose to mean.

there are no states anymore
borders once thought important no longer are, in 2013, borders of states are meaningless
people now move every few years and places like Florida are just NYsouth

we should be we
one nation,indivisible
with no borders
and no guns

as John Lennon the prophet sang "and the world can live as one"

and 100% amnesty, 100% instant citizenship
and 100% healthcare like France has.
Pay for it, perhaps more now, but when its needed, no bills.

humane, like the French are.

and tear down all walls and borders

and lets get a new court and just get rid of the 2nd altogether. Reclassify it as terror.
And as the constitution states, the president has war powers act, and congress has authorized anything to fight the war against terror is legal.
Thank God that is true. Thank God.

and the declaration and the founding fathers were a fraud anyhow
Being that one Tommy Jefferson wrote "all men are created equal"
ah, well, no, Tommy my friend, you forgot about women. And what about the slaves you owned? And the female ones you abused, ah, Tommy, sorry, but you were a despicable human being that were you alive today, and lived the way you lived then today, you would be in jail for your entire life. What a hypocrite you were.
Must have been laughing at the absurdity of your life.Pulling a fast one.
All are created equal??? Hardly in your eyes. But it was a good practical joke you pulled,
Tommy.

If we want to go back to the original intent of America, we need to give all of it back to the Native Americans, who we slaughtered when conquering it. Funny how some only think in terms of later events(like the 1770s.)
Life in America started much, much earlier.

but people tend to forget their history.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:11 PM

29. Last Kick From Me...


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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jan 20, 2013, 12:23 AM

30. With respect what is there to say? That we are fucked? Our democracy is a joke.

Unless we do something drastic it will get worse after the 2014 elections. We defeated Citizens United due to Pres Obama's popularity. He will not be on the ticket in 2014. And I doubt we have a clue who will run in 2016.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jan 20, 2013, 01:42 AM

32. Excellent post!!

As disheartening as it is...

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