Mon Jan 7, 2013, 06:10 PM
zeos3 (1,012 posts)
The IMF Admits It Was Wrong About Keynesianism
http://www.businessinsider.com/imf-admitted-their-economists-were-wrong-2013-1
"In an important new study, Olivier Blanchard, the Chief Economist at the International Monetary Fund (IMF), has just admitted that having respected and accepted the advice of conservative economists has turned out to be a blunder." "The new “IMF Working Paper,” titled “Growth Forecast Errors and Fiscal Multipliers,” prepared by Blanchard and Daniel Leigh of their Research Department, reports that whereas the IMF had been accepting conservative economists’ estimates that the multiplier was “about 0.5” percent growth, the “actual multipliers were substantially above 1 early in the crisis,” which was the period when the IMF was recommending and pursuing “fiscal consolidation,” which is called in the United States “austerity.” In other words, the policy recommended by the Republican Party’s economists, and which has actually been tried especially in Europe, has failed miserably." "Here in the U.S., a similar recent study was done by the research arm of the U.S. Congress. That study covered only the U.S. economy, and it focused like a laser on only U.S. economic history. The specific question it examined was whether economic growth has been spurred in the United States by cutting taxes for the rich and introducing austerity for the nation-as-a-whole by the Federal Government, or whether such economic policies have failed to generate economic growth in this country. It found that they have failed." There's an interesting book linked to at the end of the article. I haven't read it but I put it on my reading list. "They're Not Even Close: The Democratic vs. Republican Economic Records, 1910-2010" http://www.amazon.com/Theyre-Not-Even-Close-Democratic/dp/1880026090/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1339027537&sr=8-9
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22 replies, 1684 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| zeos3 | Jan 2013 | OP | |
| jwirr | Jan 2013 | #1 | |
| malaise | Jan 2013 | #9 | |
| gollygee | Jan 2013 | #2 | |
| zeos3 | Jan 2013 | #5 | |
| Scootaloo | Jan 2013 | #3 | |
| meow2u3 | Jan 2013 | #4 | |
| Agony | Jan 2013 | #6 | |
| Sherman A1 | Jan 2013 | #7 | |
| Mockingjay | Jan 2013 | #8 | |
| WillyT | Jan 2013 | #10 | |
| pangaia | Jan 2013 | #11 | |
| Squinch | Jan 2013 | #12 | |
| RedCappedBandit | Jan 2013 | #13 | |
| pangaia | Jan 2013 | #14 | |
| RedCappedBandit | Jan 2013 | #16 | |
| ReRe | Jan 2013 | #15 | |
| drm604 | Jan 2013 | #17 | |
| burrowowl | Jan 2013 | #18 | |
| grahamhgreen | Jan 2013 | #19 | |
| Selatius | Jan 2013 | #20 | |
| pangaia | Jan 2013 | #21 | |
| CJCRANE | Jan 2013 | #22 |
Response to zeos3 (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 06:24 PM
jwirr (20,913 posts)
1. So many broken dreams all over the world shot to hell by the Chicago Boys and Friedman.
Response to zeos3 (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 06:28 PM
gollygee (12,353 posts)
2. This is really big
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Am I going to see this on major news networks? Or will this be the only place I read it? Sigh.
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Response to gollygee (Reply #2)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 07:05 PM
zeos3 (1,012 posts)
5. We'll Be Seeing This EVERYWHERE...SOON...
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Sorry about the sarcasm...sigh...
Here's another bit from the same article about a similar study here in the US from the Congressional Research Service that was ignored even though it came out before the last election: "Months of silence on this shattering news were finally broken a few months later, late enough so that it couldn’t affect the election-results. Then, on November 2nd, The New York Times headlined, with perhaps intentional dullness (so as to help assure that the matter would stay out of the political debate), “Nonpartisan Tax Report Withdrawn After G.O.P. Protest.”" |
Response to zeos3 (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 06:56 PM
Scootaloo (5,881 posts)
3. And they will be forgiving debts and paying reparations, right?
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Right? Hello? Anyone? Anyone at all?
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Response to zeos3 (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 07:01 PM
meow2u3 (13,885 posts)
4. YOUSE JUST FOUND OUT?!!!
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We've known this all along that trickle down simply means that the rich get a golden parachute and give the rest of us a golden shower.
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Response to zeos3 (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 07:29 PM
Agony (1,289 posts)
6. ...
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mmmmmmm! beer! maybe somebody will notice this? |
Response to zeos3 (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:21 PM
Mockingjay (29 posts)
8. That's good news for the truth, but
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How many years will it take for the MSM, Fox News and the Dumbass out there to hear it, read it and comprehend it? Just asking because we new this already?
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Response to zeos3 (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:26 PM
WillyT (45,585 posts)
10. HUGE K & R !!!
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Response to zeos3 (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:44 PM
pangaia (1,066 posts)
11. If I had this figured out, oh. what... 25-30 years ago?
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And I'm a musician, not an economist....
Why couldn't the IMF figure it out? SHOCK DOCTRINE That's why ! |
Response to zeos3 (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:54 PM
Squinch (3,055 posts)
12. Better late than never, but Jeez. Couldn't they have looked at the numbers a little earlier?
Response to zeos3 (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:57 PM
RedCappedBandit (3,778 posts)
13. I just started reading Shock Doctrine a few days ago.
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What crazy timing.
As an aside, very enlightening book. |
Response to RedCappedBandit (Reply #13)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 09:11 PM
pangaia (1,066 posts)
14. Isn't that strange.,
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I had read parts of it several months ago.. Then it got too... depressing...
Then started again a few nights ago, after finishing R.A Dickey's great book about life as a knuckleballer... Jumped around and last night read all that horrifying info on Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush. So THAT explains it. :> Believe me, if you end the day in a good mood.. don't even go there... Have some bourbon or whatever... Then today I see this.. which i also missed in November. Wonder why??? |
Response to pangaia (Reply #14)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:40 PM
RedCappedBandit (3,778 posts)
16. I know exactly what you mean.
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The book is hard to stomach. Literally had nightmares about torture. Worth it though.
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Response to zeos3 (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 09:14 PM
ReRe (2,866 posts)
15. "The IMF Admits It Was Wrong"
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Holly Cow, this is explosive. Now what? Now that the globe has been laid to waste all over the place? "Oops, we were wrong! We promise to not do anything so rash again." Oh, OK. Wait... is this going to change the IMF as we know it? I never did like what they did all over the world in the first place. And the offices of the IMF are located where? And what Dept or Agency do they fall under? The Federal Reserve or the Treasury? I guess that book referenced in your OP would be a good place to start. Thanks so much for this post, zeos3
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Response to zeos3 (Original post)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:12 AM
drm604 (13,962 posts)
17. Now we'll see if they change their behavior in any way.
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I have my doubts, but we can hope.
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Response to zeos3 (Original post)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:15 AM
burrowowl (8,954 posts)
18. K&R
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No kidding!
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Response to zeos3 (Original post)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:59 AM
Selatius (20,440 posts)
20. One thing is for sure. The people of France and Iceland didn't put up with this shit.
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Iceland let their bankers burn, and the French kicked out Sarkozy and put in a Socialist Party-led government.
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Response to zeos3 (Original post)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:22 AM
pangaia (1,066 posts)
21. This should be one of the longest threads in Du history !!
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How can we get this all over the world???
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