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Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:20 PM

 

Taibbi "Outrageous HSBC Settlement Proves Drug War is a Joke" How much do we waste on the Drug War?

No matter what you think of Taibbi, he has gone where no man has gone before...we should be raising awareness about all the BS he has already exposed for us...

Does anyone know how much we spend on the drug war, because that can be eliminated right now.

Taibbi could save us billions if we follow up on his work and raise some hell about this...


If you've ever been arrested on a drug charge, if you've ever spent even a day in jail for having a stem of marijuana in your pocket or "drug paraphernalia" in your gym bag, Assistant Attorney General and longtime Bill Clinton pal Lanny Breuer has a message for you: Bite me.

Breuer this week signed off on a settlement deal with the British banking giant HSBC that is the ultimate insult to every ordinary person who's ever had his life altered by a narcotics charge. Despite the fact that HSBC admitted to laundering billions of dollars for Colombian and Mexican drug cartels (among others) and violating a host of important banking laws (from the Bank Secrecy Act to the Trading With the Enemy Act), Breuer and his Justice Department elected not to pursue criminal prosecutions of the bank, opting instead for a "record" financial settlement of $1.9 billion, which as one analyst noted is about five weeks of income for the bank.

The banks' laundering transactions were so brazen that the NSA probably could have spotted them from space. Breuer admitted that drug dealers would sometimes come to HSBC's Mexican branches and "deposit hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash, in a single day, into a single account, using boxes designed to fit the precise dimensions of the teller windows."

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/outrageous-hsbc-settlement-proves-the-drug-war-is-a-joke-20121213


How dare they waste our tax dollars pretending to fight the drug war

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Reply Taibbi "Outrageous HSBC Settlement Proves Drug War is a Joke" How much do we waste on the Drug War? (Original post)
No Compromise Jan 2013 OP
Live and Learn Jan 2013 #1
phantom power Jan 2013 #2
No Compromise Jan 2013 #3
MotherPetrie Jan 2013 #10
TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #13
Initech Jan 2013 #4
green for victory Jan 2013 #5
HiPointDem Jan 2013 #7
farminator3000 Jan 2013 #8
xchrom Jan 2013 #6
donnasgirl Jan 2013 #9
woo me with science Jan 2013 #11
Initech Jan 2013 #12
No Compromise Jan 2013 #14
No Compromise Jan 2013 #15
No Compromise Jan 2013 #16

Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:39 PM

1. +1 nt

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:57 PM

2. I don't understand the anti-Taibbi contingent...

all I see him doing is what all reporters used to aspire to: investigative reporting. In his case, he spends a lot of time investigating the fact that the Banksters have robbed our country of trillions and instead of going to jail for fraud and/or SEC violations, they've gotten steadily richer, and continue to more or less own Congress.

I thought that was a popular position here on DU, that banksters ought to be jailed.


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Response to phantom power (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:13 PM

3. whenever there is a reaction like that- I start looking for the real story

 


They really don't like what he said in his recent piece

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst may be yet to come



Matt Taibbi's Stunning, New Rolling Stone Article: "Secret and Lies of the Bailout"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022138852

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Response to phantom power (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:35 PM

10. It's because the current president is a Dem and this is indirectly criticism of him.

 

If Bush were still pres they'd be eating this up.

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Response to phantom power (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 05:44 PM

13. For some such things are just a political ballbat to beat up the opposition to regain power

which is put away when that use is no longer operative, just like deficits for TeaPubliKlans.

Others always disagree, and will tell you such but will also say they hold their tongues when the fire is on the other side.

Then you have others who claim to generally agree but present a larger framework that requires that situational ethics put the concerns on the backburner or even disregard them completely until or unless the TeaPubliKlans can be snookered into putting the genie back into the bottle or even never.

Hell, a bunch have only one measure of right and wrong, who is for or against something in a given moment. Whatever happens on the team's watch is between best plausible outcome and best possible outcome, anything not existing in that range is the perfect being the enemy of the good and anything that did not happen could not happen. Self fulfilling and self justifying logic.

There is also, in my opinion, a relatively smaller group that I call the Doubting Thomas Contingent that remain onboard with the ethics and seem earnestly concerned about the questions and outcomes but need "proof" that admittedly would at the very least would be hard to come by or even nearly impossible. "Proof" in no way previously expected to be white hot on the subjects at hand.

All in varying degrees and angles but in the wash we see holes one might drive a truck thru in any shared value system and it expands to seemingly every issue.

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:18 PM

4. A good rule of thumb for defining American "war": it's only a war if someone gets rich off it.



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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:29 PM

5. Patrick Kennedy has provided helpful insight into the "Drug War"

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2138909

(Reuters) - Retired Rhode Island Congressman Patrick Kennedy is taking aim at what he sees as knee-jerk support for marijuana legalization among his fellow liberals, in a project that carries special meaning for the self-confessed former Oxycontin addict.

Kennedy, 45, a Democrat and younger son of the late "Lion of the Senate" Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, is leading a group called Project SAM (Smart Approaches to Marijuana) that opposes legalization and seeks to rise above America's culture war over pot with its images of long-haired hippies battling law-and-order conservatives.

Project proposals include increased funding for mental health courts and treatment of drug dependency, so those caught using marijuana might avoid incarceration, get help and potentially have their criminal records cleared.

(Hey Patrick- what about all those teenagers running around on serious hardcore drugs doled out by pill salesmen? How come all these school shooters are on legal drugs Patty? Ever think about that? Shove your treatment, pal. Do it now.)


Kennedy wants cancer patients and others with serious illnesses to be able to obtain drugs with cannabinoids, but in a more regulated way that could involve the U.S. Food and Drug Administration playing a larger role.


Why, little Patty, did the US Fed Government patent the use of said cannabinoids? Eh Patty? Why is that? Cat got your filthy tongue, authoritarian jackass?

What if everyone in the USA knew that, while busting legal dispensaries, the Feds were awarding pieces of their patent to for profit companies?

The entire drug war was and is primarily about pharma and their patents.

Here is hope for a sane medical system: Pharmageddon- David Healy
Has American health care been highjacked by Big Pharma?
http://www.amazon.com/Pharmageddon-David-Healy/dp/0520270983/

People like Patty Kennedy need to get this through their thick skulls: We will Never allow the likes of filth like you to dictate what we ingest.

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Response to green for victory (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:42 PM

7. patrick kennedy is "filth"? wtf is your problem? kennedy doesn't run the government.

 

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Response to green for victory (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:55 PM

8. remove monsanto guy from FDA petition- 450,000 sigs - more info, too

Monsanto doesn’t boast about the number of political bigwigs involved with the company, and for good reason. If more of the public was aware that the current FDA Deputy Commissioner for Foods, Michael Taylor, is the former Vice President of Monsanto, there might be less confusion with the FDA’s lack of response to demands for GMO labeling.

Back to the political ties benefiting Monsanto. Here are a few of the highlights,
-Director of the USDA National Institute of Food and Agriculture, Roger Beachy, is the former director of the Monsanto-funded Danforth Plant Science Center.
-Supreme Court Judge, Clarence Thomas, is a former Monsanto lawyer.
-Former U.S. Secretary of Agriculture, Anne Veneman, was on the Board of Directors of Monsanto’s Calgene Corporation.
For a complete list visit the Organic Consumers Association’s website.
from-
http://ivn.us/2012/07/11/monsantos-political-ties-the-reason-we-dont-label-gmos/

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http://signon.org/sign/tell-obama-to-cease-fda.fb1?source=s.fb&r_by=2105328

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the below is from the end of this one:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2141505

http://www.cannabisculture.com/node/19879
“Patented Pot vs. the Herbal Gold Standard by David Malmo-Levine”

“How patented marijuana strains and medicines may threaten the re-legalization movement, curb information sharing, set up a monopoly for certain breeders and medicine producers and limit users to a more expensive and inferior product. Their economic value to the pharmaceutical houses which produce them will be directly proportional to the severity of the prohibition against the use of cannabis.”

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“GW Pharmaceutical was granted a license to grow cannabis for medical research in 1998 and it’s partner Bayer was granted a patent for Sativex in 2006. Sativex comes in a 5.5 ml spray bottle for $102 U.S. Dollars, which supplies about 51 sprays – enough for an average ten day supply. It is now available in Canada for MS and cancer pain, and has most recently become available in Britain and parts of Spain for use in the treatment of some other symptoms and syndromes.”

“GW Pharmaceutical has even patented a strain of cannabis called “Grace” in Canada. It was patented in 2005 under the Plant Breeders’ Rights Act. Under this 1994 Act, all plant species (except algae, bacteria, and fungi) are eligible for “protection” (exclusive rights to sell) for 18 years. Medicine patents last between ten to twenty years depending on the country.”

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“The modern version of this monopoly began in 1910 with the Flexner Report – a report that succeeded in closing down all the naturopathic and herbal medicine schools by the 1930′s. This report was partially engineered by the Rockefeller Foundation. The removal of these schools would assist the Rockefeller family in protecting their investments in pharmaceuticals from botanical competition. The Rockefeller Institute and Rockefeller Foundation were also key players in the development of the sciences of genetics and molecular biology – the fields in which the concepts of patenting of life-forms originated. Standard Oil – now Exxon/Mobil and a host of other oil companies – was the Rockefeller Foundation’s source of income. Interestingly, in 1927 Standard Oil became business partners with Bayer – the marketer and distributor of Sativex in Canada.”

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:37 PM

6. Du rec. Nt

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:13 PM

9. Here is a hint on how much we spend

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:36 PM

11. K&R for Taibbian honesty. nt

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 05:19 PM

12. If corporations are people why don't we start arresting them and prosecuting them?

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Response to Initech (Reply #12)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:41 PM

14. + 1000000

 

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:18 AM

15. kick for accountability

 

nt

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:00 PM

16. kick

 

nt

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