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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:35 PM

The Main (But Not The Only) Reason To Vote Democratic; The Current GOP Sucks; Here’s Proof



The Main (But Not The Only) Reason To Vote Democratic; The Current GOP Sucks; Here’s Proof

You’ve heard this from me many times over the years, but both parties are NOT the same, and anyone who says such a thing is not an “expert,” no matter how he/she portray themselves.

The 2012 election is a crucial one for progressives. This is our tipping point; if we don’t make our mark now, we risk becoming a historical asterisk. We have allowed the right wing to pretty much run the show for the last 32 years, and it’s time to take the country back. I’m not talking about marching and singing and playing political theater. I’m talking about opening our eyes and seeing the real problem with our politics and getting rid of it.

Whether you like it or not, the economy will always be the number one issue, regardless of the year. But the Republican Party still touts economic policies which were proven wrong many years ago, like supply-side economics, which is often called “trickle-down.” Unless we’re comparing the economy to molasses, a lot more should have “trickled down” to us by now, don’t you think? It has been 32 years, after all.

And need I mention our tax policy? The Republican Party actually touts the virtues of low taxes, even as they scream and carry on about the budget deficit. Yet, they won’t even agree to common-sense budget cuts, because, apparently, billionaires and millionaires are somehow hurting, financially, regardless of actual statistics which show the opposite occurring.


Much more at link: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/23/the-main-but-not-the-only-reason-to-vote-democratic-the-current-gop-sucks-heres-proof/

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What If Obama Loses?
Imagining The Consequences Of A GOP Victory


It’s a common complaint—we’ve certainly made it over the years—that too much political campaign coverage focuses on the horse race. The packed debate schedule in the current GOP nomination battle has put a bit more focus than usual on the substance of what the candidates are saying, which is good. But even so, most of this coverage has wound up being about whether a given policy position might help or hurt a candidate’s chances of winning. What’s most important has been left largely unexamined: if one of these candidates actually becomes president and advances his or her policies, what would be the consequences for the nation?

Part of the reason this question is seldom addressed is that it’s genuinely hard to do; it requires thinking three steps ahead and accounting for numerous variables. But there’s also a widespread assumption that extreme positions taken in the primaries will fade in the general election as candidates “move to the center,” and will disappear entirely once the serious business of governing begins. Surely President Newt Gingrich would not get rid of child labor laws. Surely President Perry would not seek to eliminate three cabinet departments.

We don’t think that this year, with this GOP, those assumptions are warranted. And so we asked a distinguished group of reporters and scholars to think through the hitherto unthinkable: What if one of these people actually wins?


Follow the Links to the reporters articles here(Very Insightful): http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/january_february_2012/features/what_if_he_loses034501.php#

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gratuitous Jan 2012 #5
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Response to SunsetDreams (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:47 PM

1. The Democratic party used to be more than the "less-far-right-than-the-GOP" party

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Response to phantom power (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:51 PM

3. The Democratic Party is not Far right or "less-far-right" nt

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Response to SunsetDreams (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:49 PM

2. If Obama loses

I hope 2012 is real, or maybe I can become an illegal immigrant to Canada. It will be absolute hell on earth here if the GOP win.

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:59 PM

4. totally agree

This isn't play time, especially when you consider the Supreme Court makeup right now, and the ages of some of the Justices. We could go backwards for decades to come.

The Courts
The Conservative Takeover Will Be Complete

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/january_february_2012/features/the_courts034474.php?page=2

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Response to SunsetDreams (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 06:23 PM

5. Wow, it's a good thing the Republicans didn't win in 2008

We'd probably be carrying out drone attacks, killing people without warning on the say-so of one person pushing a button. We'd be looking at further projections of U.S. power into places like Iran. Practical immunity for the robber barons who brought our country to the brink of economic disaster. Continued high unemployment. Lack of public works contributing to a continued deterioration of our infrastructure. More belt-tightening for the middle class. The artificially low Bush-era tax rates, particularly for the wealthy, would stay in place. We would undoubtedly have to be hyper-vigilant to fend off monkeying with social security. A bunch of nonsense about deficit reduction. And anyone who didn't like it would be vilified as some fringe-dwelling hippie who didn't understand how the world works and the reality of politics.

So glad I voted to put someone in the White House who would get in there and fight hard for Democratic policies.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 06:48 PM

6. Guess we should just let the Republicans win in 2012?

Want more progressive policies? President Obama needs to be re-elected and we need to work to get more Democrats elected in the House and Senate.

Guess we should look to go backwards and pretend that everything would be no different with a Republican President.

Screw that. I know I will not give up.

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Response to SunsetDreams (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:18 PM

7. No, you're supposed to call me a fringe-dwelling hippie!

Jeez, get with it.

President Obama had two years with Democratic majorities in the House and the Senate, and frittered it away. I don't know if he learned a lesson from 2009-10, or if he gets majorities again whether he will govern like he means it or mount up his golden charger and set off in search of the Holy Grail of Bipartisan Agreement.

I'm voting and volunteering Democratic, but I can't in good conscience tell folks on the fence that a vote for a Democratic majority will result in more Democratic policies being worked on. Because I have nothing to back that up, especially not based on the track record so far of the current administration.

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