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Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:20 PM

"The Rape Crew" I found out today when I was at the Steubenville Rally with some

guys I know from Steubenville had an apartment in town called "The Apartment". I guess they took her to 2 homes raped her, took her to one of their 19 coaches house. He didn't like what they were doing told them to leave. Then they took her back to "The Apartment" where their were more guys to rape her and girls were present too with their football boyfriends. Of course they blamed the girl, said she dressed like a slut. But this apartment was where they raped numerous other girls. I have no idea who paid for "The Apartment" in downtown Steubenville I mean "The Rape Crew Apartment". That is all I heard today in Steubenville.

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ArnoldLayne Jan 2013 OP
rightsideout Jan 2013 #1
Stuart G Jan 2013 #3
proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #9
rightsideout Jan 2013 #24
niyad Jan 2013 #14
Curmudgeoness Jan 2013 #27
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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:26 PM

1. Incredible

The "Apartment" thing puts another spin on this.

I had read that one of the coaches didn't like what he saw when they came to his home and told them to leave.

It sounds like this is just the tip of the iceberg. At some point other girls may step forward.

Steubenville isn't going to be able to contain this. It's taking on a life of it's own.

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Response to rightsideout (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:27 PM

3. If there really is such a place...who paid for it? ..all hell is going to break loose..nt

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:38 PM

9. One of their boosters.

Here is the website he maintains for the sports programs at the high school: http://www.rollredroll.com/

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:02 PM

24. I was thinking the same thing

I was wondering if the apartment was maintained by that guy who maintains that rollredroll website. It was said that he was the point guy for getting parties together and Anonymous found some illicit photos in his email. Maybe some of them were taken in that apartment.

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Response to rightsideout (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:46 PM

14. yes, according to reports, one of the NINETEEN football coaches (NINETEEN, for a high school

team?? bet they cancelled their art and music programs years ago because of budget considerations) told them to take it elsewhere. did not bother putting a stop to it, calling the parents, or any authorities, just "get it away from me".

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Response to niyad (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:13 PM

27. That was my thought when I read it too.

Seriously, the coach just tells them to take it elsewhere! Actually, I am rather shocked that they would think it would have been a good idea, or even thought about, taking the girl to the coaches house at all.....they were obviously drunk and acting horridly already. I would think that the last person they would want to see it the coach. That is telling.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #27)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:03 PM

39. The coaches are their "educators" don't you know!

Any bets on what kind of men these "educators" are?

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #27)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:33 PM

51. According to the locallinks article above


. . . coaches had a history of covering for these guys, and even being accessories to it prior.

This was not, by any means, the only time these guys did this. Locallinks is asking for more people to come forward, and they say they're updating their story several times a day.

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Response to niyad (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:17 PM

44. my initial reaction, also.

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Response to niyad (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:32 PM

50. That is an insane amount of coaches

My significant other is a HS football coach- In every town he has worked here in MA there were 4-6 coaches. 1 head coach and a bunch of assistants. None of these guys make a living doing it. They might make 2-3 thousand for the season and in all honesty, they would probably do it for free.

Also I've spent a decade involved in HS football and I can't for the life of me understand why coaches would be having teen players visiting their homes, especially in a social capacity.

Sounds like that team has gone WAY over alot of lines and should be shut down for a few years to clean out that type of culture.

Disgusting.

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #50)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:00 AM

105. I'm sure that most of the

19 coaches are unpaid volunteers. They are likely former players that still want to be a part of the team. Maybe they are like Peter Pan and have not grown up.

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #105)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:57 AM

120. ahhh...... bad on the head coach then, he should know better.

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Response to niyad (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:38 AM

131. A lot of them are probably volunteers.


But still, you have to ask, do that many volunteer for the art or music programs?

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Response to rightsideout (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:35 PM

31. you must have to be demonic to be a coach of a sport nowadays

I want to do violence right now.

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #31)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:18 AM

86. That seems like a bit of an overstatement, don't you think?

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #86)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:39 AM

130. it never seems to be when people discuss priests. football gets a pass

even though this is ongoing everywhere. How about focusing on the idea that hero worshipping football players and their coaches is killing people and ruining lives? The rot in that town goes to the top. If you think its the only one, I think you will be disappointed.

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #31)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:30 AM

122. There are over 16,000 high school football teams in the US playing 8-man to 11-man football....

...each with a staff of three to twenty football coaches depending on the size of the program and the funding available to support each team. Are you trying to tell me that ALL of those coaches are "demonic"? Seriously??

Let me tell you a story. My late father coached football at the high school level for 55 years. He helped more than 400 kids earn football scholarships at colleges around the country, to include more than 100 at what is now the FBS level. Quite a few of the kids he coached who didn't earn football scholarships earned academic scholarships. Even more of Dad's players went to school by working whatever jobs they could find. Dad's personal papers are full of letters from guys he coached who went on to become successful lawyers, doctors, senior military officers, teachers, coaches, and any other profession you can think of....and they ALL credit Dad for helping them achieve their dreams.

Dad's story is not an isolated story. There are literally tens of thousands of coaches who are considered to have been a positive influence on the hundreds of thousands of kids who played high school football over the last 50-60 years. The same is true at the college level...the vast majority of college football coaches are viewed favorably by the young men who played for them. To call them "demonic" is beyond my ability to comprehend. Do you consider all teachers to be "demonic" because of the criminal acts of a few? Of course not.

But somehow, the only coaches who get profiled by the media are the individual monsters who prey on their kids sexually or allow their kids to commit criminal acts that should NEVER be tolerated by ANY football coach at any level. Those people are the true "demons", and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Next time, try thinking before you post complete and utter nonsense.

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Response to OldDem2012 (Reply #122)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:38 AM

129. utter nonsense. to you. Everyone is quick to brand all priests etc as

pedos. But fuck that with coaches. Somehow football gets a pass. How many times does this have to happen before we change shit. And next time you decide to condescend to me and tell me stories, how about fucking ignore?

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #129)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 09:13 AM

132. Let's presume that all coaches and priests


molest children. Just have them prove that they don't.

Really, I don't see where priests have gotten a raw deal because coaches haven't. I think scoutmasters might have something to say about this, too. Priests, and clergy in general, got a free pass on it for some time. I mean, the abuse scandals didn't start in the '60s. It's only when the taboo about the clergy behavior came down that behavior of other people we entrust children to became examined.

Football has gotten a pass, I think, because people find it so entertaining. So much so that they tell themselves that football "builds character." And I'll point out that, socially, people who play it or are attached to it tend to end up in places of power, such as in Steubenville: the prosecutor, the sheriff, and so on.

I hate to say to some degree the people in those places of power probably agree with what was done to this girl. I mean, I doubt in the 1970s-- when they were in high school-- that if a girl were labeled a "slut" that she would fare very well at a party. Those people in power probably remember a time when their football connections got them or their acquaintances out of similar "trouble," and nobody asked any questions. Probably it wasn't nearly as horrifying as this crime as this, but it probably was.

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #129)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:15 AM

133. Hmmm. Have you thought about treatment for anger management issues?.....

....Where did I say anyone guilty of any crimes should get a pass?

What you missed in your rush to be as personally abusive as possible is the basic message in my post, which is that you can't blame every person in a certain population for the crimes of individual members of that population. Is that concept really so difficult to for you to grasp?

There is no doubt that the coaches who have committed unspeakable sexual predatory acts have damaged the image of the profession, just as there is no doubt that the Catholic priests who engaged in the same reprehensible crimes have damaged the image of the Catholic church. But, it is patently ridiculous to blame ALL coaches and ALL priests for the acts of a few.

"Condescend to you"?? Is that how you actually perceive my response? Really??? If your definition of the word "condescend" is to point out your misconceptions and outright lies, then I guess you've got me all figured out.

Good luck to you in the future....I somehow think you're going to need a lot of it.

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Response to rightsideout (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:25 AM

118. The thing that gets me about this coach who apparently didn't like what they players were doing:

why didn't he intervene and do something to protect the drugged girl?

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:26 PM

2. If this is true and it most likely is...

Since this has been taken out of the local LEO's hands and gone higher up I expect more facts to come out. What we already know is bad enough. But, I feel this goes much deeper than one event. The Rape Crew seem to have an extensive adult support system. It doesn't seem like they bothered to cover up what they were doing in the slightest. All of it needs to be looked at including who ever was funding this apartment. I think it's likely some parents were involved in this.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:14 AM

107. +1000

You're on to something.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:34 PM

4. Anonymous hacked email of guy paying for the apartment

According to Anonymous, the apartment is rented by a Big Red booster who runs a Big Red website. He does it in exchange for photos of undressed girls taken by guys at the apartment. Here's what Anonymous has: http://localleaks.blogs.ru/

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Response to patriotboy (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:37 PM

7. And here is that website:

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:44 PM

13. so I read the disclaimer on the home page--so Anonymous is a bunch of terrorists, but

the sick and twisted monsters who committed those heinous acts are not? no, according to this bastard, it is all lies, even though we have their own posts and tweets and videos. sickening, just sickening.

yeah, I am sure you will be pursuing this through the courts, cannot wait.

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Response to niyad (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:51 PM

16. This guy's delusional.

As you are probably aware, this web site was recently hacked into illegally numerous times by a terrorist group. The outrageous claims they made while controlling this site were totally false, completely absurd, and totally unfounded. They were clearly both libelous and slanderous, and were not even intended to reveal truth, but rather simply to get media attention and terrorize the Steubenville community. Innocent people have been greatly harmed.

Unfortunately, several national media outlets, including the New York Times, have recklessly decided to aid and abet these acts of illegality and give the terrorists exactly what they wanted by disseminating inaccurate and legally actionable information and accusations. Incredibly, they have done so without even bothering to contact this web site for comment.

We wish to make it clear that we will pursue legal justice against the perpetrators of these evil acts and all of those in the media who chose to help them.

Roll Red Roll
Jim Parks

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:42 PM

57. Is he going to sue?


Problem with suing for libel or slander is the defense is given almost unlimited fact finding latitude in the courts. I bet there's never any suit.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:44 PM

58. What an interesting definition of "terrorist"

Anyone who tries to prevent the football players on his favorite team from terrorizing women is ... a terrorist.

Love the way people throw that term around to try to demonize any opponents.

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Response to lolly (Reply #58)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:54 PM

65. I bet he's terrifed. He's just gone viral. nt

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Response to caseymoz (Reply #65)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:14 AM

83. Actually, he probably isn't yet

If you think about it, these guys have always gotten away with everything.

Anyone who has complained about their behavior in the past has been intimidated and harassed.

He's probably certain that it will all go away this time, as well. And unless the investigation and prosecution is taken up by outside agencies, he will. So it's important to keep up the media coverage and keep the pressure on for full investigation.

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Response to patriotboy (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:59 PM

20. Oh!! Thats who was paying for it I didn't know that.

He has strong connections at my favorite team "The Ohio State Buckeye's" Oh shit now Ohio State might be involved. The guy that starred in that video bragging about the rape Michael Nodianos is a former Big Red and All American Baseball player at Ohio State University. He was secretly taping and showing photos of 14 and 15 year old girls having sex and getting raped by his buddies back in Steubenville. I don't want to reveal his name until I am sure it is who I think it is.

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Response to patriotboy (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:15 PM

42. ^^^ This ^^^

...although horrible to read, and makes me so frustrated with humanity, is a great way to get caught up on what is going on.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:34 PM

5. I just wanted to add Jane Doe remembers going to meet

one guy she liked. She was set up on the way to the one house she remembers. Then someone may have slipped something in whatever she was drinking. But she only remembers being taken to just one house in Steubenville then waking up in someones front yard in Weirton West Virginia by her house, how nice of them.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:55 PM

18. thank you, that explains the remarks about crossing state lines and kidnapping.

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Response to niyad (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:08 PM

40. So, some of the criminal acts took place in West Virginia.

Add one or more jurisdictions to the case.

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #40)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:49 PM

61. Or make it federal.


Fact s, the first thing the prosecutor did was drop the kidnapping charges. I somehow think those will be reinstated, though.

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #40)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:03 AM

74. Yes I believe some occured in West Virginia before

they brought her across the river into Ohio.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:45 PM

59. Yes, they dumped her unconscious on her parents front lawn


and urinated on her.

There's no pit low enough in any hell I could imagine . . .

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Response to caseymoz (Reply #59)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:58 AM

94. I can't help but wonder how they feel about their own grandmothers, mothers, aunts, sisters etc. :-(

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Response to Raine (Reply #94)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:30 AM

101. I'm guessing that they wouldn't see any connection.


I'm thinking that generally their minds wouldn't put related females in the same category as this girl.

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Response to Raine (Reply #94)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:20 AM

113. "That's how I met your mom son...."

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Response to caseymoz (Reply #59)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:32 AM

109. What sickening little shits.

They deserve to prosecuted to the full extent of the law. I can''t even say what I would like to do to them personally.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:36 PM

6. This is such a horrific story

Thank you for your reports.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:38 PM

8. Thank you n/t

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:40 PM

10. the coach doesn't call the cops?

but instead tells them to take a passed out victim elsewhere to rape her? Sounds like criminal culpability to me.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:06 PM

26. No he just told them to be careful, just behave and would not allow

them in his house.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Reply #26)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:30 AM

89. I keep thinking of the Penn State Case....look at what the law says in PA for example regarding the

...requirements of coaches, educators etc to report crimes... In this case, kidnapping, underage drinking, drugs, sex with a minor, statutory and yes, a rape! Not to mention that any adults present were guilty of providing alchohol to minors. Paterno was disgraced and now the head of Athletic Dept and former President of Penn State charged with the coverups and failures for allowing Sandusky to commit these crimes. sandusky was evencharged in one case involving taking one of the minors across state lines to a game in AZ and committing a crime.

Are the laws in Ohio somehow so different from its other neighboring state that there are no other charges than have been made against only two juveniles? No others? None of the adults? Are all of the coaches at Steubenville employed by this PUBLIC Government funded school operated by the state board of education? Dont they have to follow certain laws?

Why isnt the OH bar association looking into the Prosecutor of Jefferson County whose son is involved? Why isnt Attorney General Mike Dewine looking into this Prosecutor?

Why is the ex boyfriend Cody Saltzman off the hook and not charged with conspiracy and aiding and abetting?

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:28 PM

29. I was sitting here reading the OP and I just about fell off my chair when I read that part...

I pictured that scenario...some guys come in carrying an unconscious underage girl, and all the coach can say is to take her somewhere else??? Jesus, Mary & Joseph!!!

I do believe that athletic coaches fall into the category of mandated reporters of child abuse.

That particular coach, and every other coach who had any knowledge of this should be fired before Monday, and criminal charges should be filed against them, forthwith.

Furthermore, a significant number of the residents of that town should hang their heads in shame. From what I've read, the attempt to cover up the crime was pervasive among the citizenry there (although some individuals have come forward with evidence).

Oh, and that stupid sheriff should be run out of town on a rail.

Thank goodness for Anonymous. More power to them.


On edit> That young man who's currently at Ohio State on a football scholarship should have said scholarship taken away and given to someone who is deserving of it.

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Response to truth2power (Reply #29)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:29 PM

30. hear, hear

I agree completely.

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Response to truth2power (Reply #29)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:25 PM

46. The sheriff should be locked up, not run out, if all this is true.

I'm sure a lot more is going to be coming out too!

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Response to truth2power (Reply #29)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:47 PM

60. Along with the booster/apartment owner

Wouldn't he be guilty of conspiracy or complicity in the rapes committed there, since he provided the opportunity for it?

And since the victims were generally underage girls, wouldn't that make him a sex offender, and put him on the registry?

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:53 PM

32. Why call the cops?

It seems they are in on it.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #32)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:00 PM

38. You don't understand what you are saying

One calls the police because a serious, violent crime is taking place. The coach knew of the assault while it was taking place and did nothing. The police did not get on this until well after the attack, when a journalist exposed the boys Facebook's videos of the rape.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #38)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:41 PM

56. The point is that the sheriff seemed more than happy to participate in the cover up

Calling the cops wouldn't have changed that fact.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #38)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:04 AM

75. Let's say the coach was horrified and wanted to do something....

Calling the local cops in a corrupt town like this is sometimes worse for the caller than the criminal if he is protected by the sheriff, local prosecutors and judges as I have read about this case.
this is a real briarpatch here, an old school corrupt town that half supports and the half lives in fear.
Unless you know who you can trust who do you call?

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #75)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:14 AM

84. It would have spared himself future prosecution

If nothing else. Now he deserves to be charged as a criminal conspirator.

And that assumes he knew the sheriff was corrupt, which I see no reason to assume. And that doesn't absolve the coach of criminal responsibility. As another poster observed, coaches and teachers are mandated reporters. That raises their level of responsibility in such situations.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #84)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:09 AM

96. I agree. He should have taken the girl from the boys right there and sheltered her and call

the authorities.
People living under tyrannical regimes make bad choices sometimes.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #84)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:49 AM

115. Sparing himself future prosecution is a good point,

but if you are under a corrupt regime, people fear every angle. Not everyone thinks like a hero. I think it is becoming quite clear there is underlying corruption in that jurisdiction at all levels. Unfortunately, the coach needed to do whatever it would take to protect the defenseless even at his own peril. Courageous humans do not always come out on top. Sometimes having courage means you take the rap as well. It seems he was either unable to step up to the challenge or colluded.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #115)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:00 AM

116. I actually misread your first post

To me. I thought you said the police were on it rather than in on it. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #75)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:22 AM

108. her parents, a doctor since she was sick, an adult woman that you trust.... you can use her phone

to try and contact a real friend who could contact her parents.
Anyone with scruples would know how to do the right thing. Even the teenagers there should have known this.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #108)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:19 AM

112. let's remember this is a coach the teens thought might be cool with them...

bringing her there.
They must have had a reason to think this....right?
So I would not expect any "correct" choices from anyone associated with this HS football team

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #112)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:45 PM

125. Good point. nt

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:40 PM

11. I didn't think I could be any more sickened than I already am over this, but I was wrong.

thank you for this additional, horrific information.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:43 PM

12. The more information that comes out the more

disgusting this story gets and I thought it was at its worse before. That poor girl and her family. Goddamn those pigs and their girlfriends who let it happen. They all make me so sick

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:51 PM

15. No offense meant at all, but:

"It's on the internet, it must be true" applies here. This definitely sounds possible, though, given what we already know about the case.

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Response to Dash87 (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:52 PM

17. Videos don't lie

Neither do pictures.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:59 PM

21. There's a video of the players going to the coach's house?

I'm not being sarcastic. I don't know too much about the case, and didn't want to watch any of the videos (too sickening).

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Response to Dash87 (Reply #21)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:23 PM

124. there is video of the actual rape.

there are accounts that the sheriff publicly admitted "accidentally" deleting some of the cameras seized.

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Response to uncle ray (Reply #124)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:30 PM

127. He should be removed for "gross incompetence."


at the very least. How do you accidentally delete images on "some" of the cameras? One camera I can perhaps understand. Some?

If the cameras can't be used in the rape trial, they should be used for evidence in HIS trial.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:01 PM

23. yep the video is the evidence

and it shows how sick and depraved these people were

and if it wasn't for anonymous
they would still be raping
more and more girls

and bragging about it

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:57 PM

19. I think we crossed into RICO territory

When are the Feds getting involved? And this sounds like the kind of investigation where way too many well connected locals are involved.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:28 PM

47. At least conspiracy to obstruct justice.

The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, commonly referred to as the RICO Act or simply RICO, is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:39 PM

53. If they crossed state lines, it's in the FBI's territory

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Response to tavalon (Reply #53)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:56 PM

66. And they did. Dumping her in WV nt

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Response to caseymoz (Reply #66)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:12 AM

81. Good because that means it doesn't land in the local and corrupt sherrif's office

As it should be.

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Response to caseymoz (Reply #66)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:48 AM

92. Which link por post is that? I hadn't read that part. TIA.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #92)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:15 AM

98. localleaks


Read the end of the section headed "What really happened."

http://localleaks.blogs.ru/2013/01/01/steubenvillefiles/

Finally, having sated themselves and exhausted any further entertainment that Jane Doe could provide for these animals, she was unceremoniously dumped (still unconscious) onto the front lawn of the Cole residence – where at least one member of the “Rape Crew” proceeded to urinate on her. At some point in the early morning hours of August 12th, a still unconscious Jane Doe was transported to her home in West Virginia – where she was deposited on the front lawn of her families home. She was discovered there by her parents at dawn.


Makes me hope for a Hell just for the possibility these guys would end up there.

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Response to caseymoz (Reply #98)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:28 AM

100. Yes, they crossed a state line returning her. Still counts, I hope.

Thanks for reading those details, frankly I tried to skim through. It's terrible these sociopaths are walking free and no one apparently thought this was a crime at all. I suspect if they escape wrath, they will do well in business:



I can't imagine even traveling in that region. How one would know which person you met on the road or the street is one of this extended group?

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Response to freshwest (Reply #100)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:44 AM

104. i had heard they were first charged adult and kidnapping. kidnapping dropped and changed to

juvenile

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Response to tavalon (Reply #53)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:47 AM

91. Kidnaping someone across state lines is a federal offense.

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Following the historic Lindbergh kidnapping (the abduction and murder of Charles Lindbergh's toddler son), the United States Congress adopted a federal kidnapping statute—popularly known as the Federal Kidnapping Act 18 U.S.C. § 1201(a)(1) (also known as the Lindbergh Law, or Little Lindbergh Law) — which was intended to let federal authorities step in and pursue kidnappers once they had crossed state lines with their victim.

The theory behind the Lindbergh Law was that federal law enforcement intervention was necessary because state and local law enforcement officers could not effectively pursue kidnappers across state lines. Since federal law enforcement, such as FBI agents, have national law enforcement authority, Congress believed they could do a much more effective job of dealing with kidnappings than could state, county, and local authorities.

Several states implemented their own versions of this law, known as "Little Lindbergh" laws, covering acts of kidnapping that did not cross state lines. In some states, if the victim was physically harmed in any manner, the crime qualified for capital punishment. This was what occurred in the Caryl Chessman case in California. Following the death penalty law revisions by the United States Supreme Court during the 1970s, kidnapping alone no longer constitutes a capital offense.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Kidnapping_Act

No longer a capital offense, which may make it easier to prosecute them.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #91)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:59 AM

121. I'm glad of that

Because the sheriff is corrupt so the FBI can take it up and take down every one of these sadistic and sociopathic bastards. I want them in jail for as long as possible and I want them to carry the sex offender label for the rest of their lives. I don't want any women to be off guard when these bastards are around. Brand them for life!

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:40 PM

54. Since traditional mafia revenue from gambling, etc. businesses are legal, it seems pointless. OTOH:

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The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, commonly referred to as the RICO Act or simply RICO, is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization. The RICO Act focuses specifically on racketeering, and it allows for the leaders of a syndicate to be tried for the crimes which they ordered others to do or assisted them, closing a perceived loophole that allowed someone who told a man to, for example, murder, to be exempt from the trial because he did not actually do it.

RICO was enacted by section 901(a) of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970 (Pub.L. 91-452, 84 Stat. 922, enacted October 15, 1970). RICO is codified as Chapter 96 of Title 18 of the United States Code, 18 U.S.C. § 1961–1968. While its original use in the 1970s was to prosecute the Mafia as well as others who were actively engaged in organized crime, its later application has been more widespread.

Under RICO, a person who is a member of an enterprise that has committed any two of 35 crimes—27 federal crimes and 8 state crimes—within a 10-year period can be charged with racketeering. Those found guilty of racketeering can be fined up to $25,000 and sentenced to 20 years in prison per racketeering count. In addition, the racketeer must forfeit all ill-gotten gains and interest in any business gained through a pattern of "racketeering activity." RICO also permits a private individual harmed by the actions of such an enterprise to file a civil suit; if successful, the individual can collect treble damages (damages in triple the amount of actual/compensatory damages).

When the U.S. Attorney decides to indict someone under RICO, he or she has the option of seeking a pre-trial restraining order or injunction to temporarily seize a defendant's assets and prevent the transfer of potentially forfeitable property, as well as require the defendant to put up a performance bond. This provision was placed in the law because the owners of Mafia-related shell corporations often absconded with the assets. An injunction and/or performance bond ensures that there is something to seize in the event of a guilty verdict.

In many cases, the threat of a RICO indictment can force defendants to plead guilty to lesser charges, in part because the seizure of assets would make it difficult to pay a defense attorney. Despite its harsh provisions, a RICO-related charge is considered easy to prove in court, as it focuses on patterns of behavior as opposed to criminal acts.

There is also a provision for private parties to sue. A "person damaged in his business or property" can sue one or more "racketeers". The plaintiff must prove the existence of an "enterprise". The defendant(s) are not the enterprise; in other words, the defendant(s) and the enterprise are not one and the same. There must be one of four specified relationships between the defendant(s) and the enterprise: either the defendant(s) invested the proceeds of the pattern of racketeering activity into the enterprise; or the defendant(s) acquired or maintained an interest in, or control over, the enterprise through the pattern of racketeering activity; or the defendant(s) conducted or participated in the affairs of the enterprise "through" the pattern of racketeering activity; or the defendant(s) conspired to do one of the above. In essence, the enterprise is the illegal device of the racketeers. A civil RICO action, like many lawsuits based on federal law, can be filed in state or federal court.

Both the federal and civil components allow for the recovery of treble damages.

Although its primary intent was to deal with organized crime, Blakey said that Congress never intended it to merely apply to the Mob. He once told Time, "We don't want one set of rules for people whose collars are blue or whose names end in vowels, and another set for those whose collars are white and have Ivy League diplomas."

I don't know which of these would apply, since this is not a financial crime, but some of it may:

Under the law, the meaning of racketeering activity is set out at 18 U.S.C. § 1961. As currently amended it includes:

* Any violation of state statutes against gambling, murder, kidnapping, extortion, arson, robbery, bribery, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in the Controlled Substances Act);
* Any act of bribery, counterfeiting, theft, embezzlement, fraud, dealing in obscene matter, obstruction of justice, slavery, racketeering, gambling, money laundering, commission of murder-for-hire, and several other offenses covered under the Federal criminal code (Title 18);


Closest thing to this that I can find is this:

Catholic sex abuse cases

In some jurisdictions, RICO suits have been filed against Catholic dioceses, using racketeering laws to prosecute the highers-up in the episcopacy for abuses committed by those under their authority. A Cleveland grand jury cleared two bishops of racketeering charges, finding that their mishandling of sex abuse claims did not amount to criminal racketeering. Certain lawyers and abuse advocates have openly wondered why a similar suit was not filed against archbishop Bernard Law, who escaped prosecution by going into exile in Vatican City.

Although a lot of it seems to be financial crimes, here is something that might somehow apply, as it is not about money here, for the most part:

Pro-life activists


RICO laws were successfully cited in NOW v. Scheidler, 510 U.S. 249, 114 S. Ct. 798, 127 L.Ed. 2d 99 (1994), a suit in which certain parties, including the National Organization for Women, sought damages and an injunction against pro-life activists who physically block access to abortion clinics. The Court held that a RICO enterprise does not need an economic motive, and that the Pro-Life Action Network could therefore qualify as a RICO enterprise. The Court remanded for consideration of whether PLAN committed the requisite acts in a pattern of racketeering activity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RICO

I would like to see these people bankrupted and lose all their property and assets at they very least. But I'm not an attorney and our outrage at the conduct of the prosecutor, coaches and the rest may or may not yield much.

I appreciate Anonymous and Occupy going to get more details. The Apartment set up may qualify as a money making enterprise for pornography. What do you think?

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Reply #63)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:56 PM

67. the feds son got in trouble for something and the sheriff got him off,... or something? i have

forgotten the specifics. read so much.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #67)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:01 AM

71. That was it and the Pros. Attorney was character witness

for his son and he got off, there you go.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #97)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:42 AM

103. She's the local county prosecutor, not U.S.

Jefferson County Prosecutor Jane Hanlin. But she was removed from the case August 28 when two special prosecutors from the state AG's Crimes Against Children Unit werre appointed. She just issued a statement Saturday denying any involvement of her son or her home in the crimes:

http://www.wtov9.com/news/news/local/jefferson-co-prosecutor-releases-statement-investi/nTnmG/

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Reply #63)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:04 AM

77. Good, cause this can't stay local

Thanks.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:00 PM

22. It gets more and more disgusting as more bits and pieces come to light

The smugness and sense of entitlement turns my stomach. One thing really disturbs me is the fame aspect. I wonder if these young men are hoping that Law & Order SVU picks it up and models a (similar details but not based on) show on these events?

Actually it kind of reminds me of an episode I saw where a group of young men think of themselves as a faux Rat Pack and wind up raping a woman. Of course one of the boys' father was a judge or something.

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Response to loyalsister (Reply #22)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:53 PM

64. The Spur Posse

I think the actual case was out here in CA, where members of the sports teams set up a "point system" for having sex with girls at the school. In at least some cases, it was non-consensual.

I remember one of the fathers going on some talk show and defending his son. He essentially called the girls involved sluts and said his son would never marry someone like that.

L&O changed a few details and I believe made it a hockey team at a posh NYC academy.

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Response to lolly (Reply #64)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:00 AM

70. yikes

The similarities are pretty disturbing.

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Response to lolly (Reply #64)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:03 AM

95. Yes, I think it was in the Long Beach area. Over the years I've tried to find details on it but

couldn't remember the name they called themselves. THANK YOU for giving the name, now maybe I can find it. I was begining to think I had imagined the whole thing.

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Response to Raine (Reply #95)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:17 AM

99. In Lakewood. Wiki has a page on the Spur Posse...

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #99)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:33 AM

102. THANKS! nt

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:06 PM

25. the date rape drug is serious and I see more and more kids

falling into the traps

It use to be one thing going to a party but now you have to worry
what is in my drink


People have no tolerance for drinking but they have to understand this drug could be given
in orange juice or soda


It is scary stuff

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:20 PM

28. Damn, y'all! They gonna hafta throw the WHOLE DAMN TOWN in jail at this point!

They all guilty! The FBI should do this case Mubarak-style and arrest whole families until the truth comes out.

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Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:54 PM

33. Question...

Did the girl live thru this?? If so, was she conscious for any of It? What did they do, keep drugging her when she started to wake up? Holy Moly. I've heard and seen allot of things in my time, but never anything as barbarian as this.

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Response to ReRe (Reply #33)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:30 PM

49. Follow this link from up thread:

http://localleaks.blogs.ru/

Read it for yourself there.

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #49)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:50 PM

62. Thanks!

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:56 PM

35. there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there

 

nt

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Response to No Compromise (Reply #35)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:38 AM

110. I sometimes wonder why we aren't reacting like the women in India.

Surely this is a worldwide problem, the need for fighting back is great.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:57 PM

36. It's like a Twilight Zone episode about a town full of evil people.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:59 PM

37. Reading all this reminds me of how much a spiderweb crime is

I used to work as a fraud analyst, working with law enforcement agencies, local, provincial and federal.
One crime would often lead to another and more criminals.
It will be interesting how this pans out

There are some points that the MSM has not brought up that I have not seen anyway.
1. Where are they getting the booze ?
2. where are they drinking and who is supervising and allowing underage drinking and raping in the house..?.
3. why did the district attorney not tell the parents her son was at the party, and one of the parties was at her home?
4. where was the girl picked up? WV or Ohio?

There are many more questions to come .

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #37)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:14 PM

41. Since someone mentioned his name yes it is Jim Parks

an official at Ohio State was paying for "The Apartment" and being supplied with child porn or underage sex videos and pictures from "The Rape Crew". I also heard the FBI in that area of Eastern Ohio has questionable ties to the corruption going on also, that is all I am going to say right now.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:16 PM

43. From my experience there's a lot of small towns this corrupt

This is quite similar to what happened in the Trayvon Martin case, Zimmerman was connected and the connections made the charges go away until the case just happened to wind up on the internet.

That's exactly what would have happened here if the video and pictures of the crimes had not made it onto the internet, it all would have been covered up completely.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:17 PM

45. Yet Sheriff ABubba says "no more arrests"


And curiously, the kidnapping charges were dropped?

This game has been apparently going on for some time with the filth in Stupidville.

Every person who witnessed what happened is an accessory to rape. They should ALL be charged, as well as any adults who allowed their homes to be used. Saltsman is the biggest PIG of them all, and he should be facing charges. He sent pics from his phone, yet he WALKS?

Nodianos also, as the victim is supposedly in the next room where the 12 minute video was shot.
ABubba says Nodianos can't be arrested for stupid. HOW ABOUT FOR ACCESSORY TO ASSAULT AND RAPE, YOU STUPID PIG? ABubba is law enforcement and he doesn't even know the law?

And you can look at Parks and SEE the perv. He's got that dead, soulless look in his eyes. Like he has a really sick, demented mind. I have no doubt his influence led to the rapes ( and local leaks says they know of three victims last year alone.)

The whole thing just reeks of evil. Dozens of folks in Steubenville who spoke to NYT DID NOT want their names revealed. This tells you there is a culture of fear, intimidation and corruption that pervades this nasty little town.

I can't wish for enough light to shine on the whole seedy filthy town, but one thing's for sure, Steubenville will never live this down. Forever, they will be known as the town that lets its boys rape its girls and get away with it.

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Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:37 PM

52. Just like Penn State.


Football was lucrative for the town. The people in charge would cover up felonious behavior to protect their cash cow.

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Response to caseymoz (Reply #52)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:02 AM

73. I was raised in a small town that was very big on the high school football team

It was a lot like the movie Radio except there was no Cuba Gooding character and there was definitely a dark side. At least two of the coaches were having sex with female students. Both were forced to resign. One got out of teaching entirely and the other moved on to another school and probably just started all over again. The starting lineup routinely got excused for criminal behavior. The coaches were tightly connected to law enforcement. There was no scandal this big, but I could definitely see it happening.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:40 PM

55. Steubenville has a history of corruption

It was a center of vice and gambling in the 1930s. A couple of Meyer Lansky's associates came out of Steubenville.

Traci Lords tweeted the other day that she grew up there and was raped while she was in middle school.

I don't know if the corruption ever stopped and then started up again -- but there is something dirty going a long way back. Somehow I keep being reminded of the Hellmouth in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It's just that putrid.

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Response to starroute (Reply #55)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:57 PM

68. Yes Traci Lords was raped as a child went into porn

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at the age of 15 she lied about her age. Now she is trying to raise her children and living a respectful life in privacy.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:00 AM

69. The Whole shooting match

truth be told, in the long run, heads will roll... hopefully ALL the ones responsible. Steubenville has been a corrupt, dead, shit-hole for years, living in the glory of Big Red. I am a HS football coach from the Ohio Valley and am completely repulsed by the entire situation. ANYONE who could be a witness to this and stand idly by deserves any and all discipline that would be applied to a person that is aiding and abetting a criminal as well as an accomplice to negligence. I would hope Reno and the "Good" Sheriff have seen their last days at the head of their "respective institutions". Maybe they can relive all the good ol' days when they are having breakfast at the Spot Bar. I too wonder why the Feds haven't been involved since the girl is from Weirton and was supposedly dumped on her lawn the following morning... Nothing can be accomplished with the prosecutor having a son on the team. i hope Dewine does the right thing and blows this wide open

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Response to MrCheex (Reply #69)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:06 AM

78. Welcome to DU! Insider perspectives are always appreciated here.

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Response to eridani (Reply #78)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:20 AM

87. thanks

And everyone from the area is well aware of the Big Red "Mystique" for lack of a better term. There is a reason they don't lose at home, and believe me, it isn't always because they have the best athletes.

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Response to MrCheex (Reply #87)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:45 PM

126. Is it steroids or some other doping?

Steroid use could account for the horrific rage and aggression (but not the reprehensible acts) of these rapists. There have been accounts linking the Sheriff to cocaine trafficking but if the football players were given recreational drugs and booze, there can be no doubt there were also given performance enhancing drugs.

But not being familiar with sports in general, why would home games make such a difference? And is there any testing at the high school level?

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Response to MrCheex (Reply #69)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:06 AM

79. The Post Gazette's story on this was below the fold front page...

However, it was softball and inaccurate, claiming that 2 boys were involved. It was a complete fluff piece.

By the way, Welcome to DU!

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Response to MrMickeysMom (Reply #79)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:16 AM

85. thanks

surprise, surprise... fluff to cover Big Red...

and thank you

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Response to MrCheex (Reply #85)

Mon Jan 21, 2013, 08:47 PM

135. GHB

looks to be the "date rape" drug that is being talked about. It has been around for a long time, and is essentially odorless, tasteless and pretty much undetectible in drug screens. It also leaves the body relatively quickly, especially if not though to be looked for. It has been a favorite of POWERLIFTERS for quite some time for the effect it has to essentially shut down the body into a DEEP SLEEP... anyone see the coincidence??? It takes effect in less than 30 miutes of ingestion and the "best" way to take it is mixed in a sweet drink or juice...

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Response to MrCheex (Reply #69)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:25 AM

88. welcome to DU

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:04 AM

76. are the local limbaugh talk radio station blowhards defending them?

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Response to certainot (Reply #76)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:13 AM

82. No he is blaming the Liberal Justice System. Its Obamas

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fault of course.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:34 AM

90. Now the YourAnonNews Twitter account is taunting Sheriff Abdalla

YourAnonNews: Hey Sheriff Abdalla, when you walked into the Spot Bar yesterday and told everyone not to talk to anybody - does that include the FBI?

YourAnonNews: Sheriff Abdalla, that back-room meeting you had yesterday with your "bookies" went well - employees at the Spot Bar say business is brisk.

YourAnonNews: Sheriff Abdalla, hate to break it to you but LocalLeaks has sources in your department, sources in your bar - and sources in your own home.

YourAnonNews: Look around you Abdalla, the next person you speak to could be one of our sources. LocalLeaks has received approx. 250 leaks on you alone.

YourAnonNews: You've NO idea the things we know about you Abdalla. Oh and Sheriff. We heard from the Troopers & we know about that weakness for young men.

YourAnonNews: Sleep well Sheriff Abdalla. LOVE -- Anonymous

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Response to starroute (Reply #90)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:31 AM

114. Get 'em Anonymous!

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Response to starroute (Reply #90)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:11 AM

117. OMG: "Oh and Sheriff... we know about that weakness for young men."

Wow, this is getting truly explosive!

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Response to starroute (Reply #90)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:37 AM

123. thumbs up. nt

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:53 AM

93. Wow. Just horrific.

There isn't enough bleach to clean up the filth in that town, it seems. Thank you for being there and reporting back.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:11 AM

106. Just sick

 

Every adult who looked the other way or contributed in any way to anything that facilitated this situation should be charged and arrested. Every trial should be broadcast from coast to coast.
The football program at this school should be eliminated for at least 10 years.
There is nothing that should get in the way of total disclosure and vigorous prosecution.

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Response to overthehillvet (Reply #106)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:42 AM

111. +1000, Agree with you completely. Welcome to DU!

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:02 AM

119. so now what?

I think we have more than seen that this case cannot be trusted in local hands. The question is what is being done bout it? The Feds need to move on this but they need to occupy this town NOW. I'm sure evidence is being destroyed as fast as the motor of the shredder can spin, at the "apartment", the stadium, the school, the spot bar, the booster's home, ohio state. and everyone else the tentacles of this monster reach.

I would like to hear from the president himself on this, or the attorney general, that the feds are going to essentially take this town over. We need a federal judge to issue search warrants for all these places in question and start freezing the accounts NOW because you know there are piles of cash involved in all this too somewhere.

Is any of this being done? You know Steubenville is using every second they have to cover their tracks. The more time they are given, the less likely any of this will ever see a courtroom, let alone a conviction.

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Response to Takket (Reply #119)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:36 PM

128. the Ohio AG was put on it. And their investigation is ongoing.

I hope more images and video is uncovered because it will be very hard to prosecute all that participated without it or her testimony.
They will have to cut deals with squealers who may have raped her also.
The trial is supposed to be next month, but will probably be delayed.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:31 AM

134. The football/athlete culture in this country is appalling.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2013, 09:43 AM

136. These aren't "teenage boys," they're sociopathic monsters

I'm from WV, and the sense of entitlement that football players expect and GET has something to do with this. Combined with the obvious mindset of the parents involved, I'm surprised these teen monsters didn't act out their cruelty before now.

The parents of these monsters, from all reports, act as if they are raising dogs at their house, not rearing human beings.
One poster on here actually said that you "can't shame teen boys...they just see their friends getting in trouble over a girl."

I'm blown away by that comment. She's probably right...there probably is NO WAY to make monsters like that feel that they did anything wrong. They don't see the girl as being a human being that they kidnapped and tortured, obviously. If they had seen her as a human being, they never would've done something so horrendous to her.

BUT...don't accuse ALL teen boys as having the attitude your own little monsters have. This isn't a "typical" teen male attitude. By trying to imply that it is, you're hoping to gain sympathy and excuse the behavior of these rapist kidnappers. Nobody is buying it.

As far as saying "she's dead," meaning "her reputation is dead," I'm sorry but their puny little d***s aren't going to be big enough to "ruin" her life. But this comment shows the types of dogs that the parents of these little rapists reared. BAD JOB, Mom and Dad. You reared rapists.

And the coaches, teachers, school administrators and prosecutors who are trying to let your awful brats get away with it are just as disgusting as you are.

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