Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:27 PM

Why do we even call these things DEBATES? They are nothing more than Dog and Pony shows

playing to the audience. UNLIKE the debates in the past where the candidates actually talked about and seriously debated the issues and ways to solve them our degenerate shows are nothing more than one lines that have been tested to make people happy and actually tell you nothing about the candidate.

Now Newt's demanding for the audience to act like "trainned seals" and basically appauled and laughed and shout out when the one liner calls for it just shows how stupid this exercise is to the nation.

So in there present state why the freak don't we BAN these "DEBATES"?

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Why do we even call these things DEBATES? They are nothing more than Dog and Pony shows (Original post)	Justice wanted	Jan 2012	OP
Never have been	zipplewrath	Jan 2012	#1
Once upon a time in this country we had true debates than they started putting them on	Justice wanted	Jan 2012	#5
Lincoln Douglas were probably the exception	zipplewrath	Jan 2012	#10
More like Amoeba and Virus show.	GoneOffShore	Jan 2012	#2
I'm curious. How do you propose to "ban" the "debates"?	onenote	Jan 2012	#3
NO true No one is making ANYONE watch! But why call these things Debates when they aren't really	Justice wanted	Jan 2012	#7
between 3 and 6 million are watching	onenote	Jan 2012	#11
I'm saying in general. Next time someone complains about the debates make the suggestion	Justice wanted	Jan 2012	#13
The folks that I know who complain about the debates already don't watch them	onenote	Jan 2012	#14
the last one was really bad, imo	Enrique	Jan 2012	#4
Because "Red-light window shopping" sounds tawdry.	Scuba	Jan 2012	#6
LMAO!!!! BUT it is the truth! They are pimping themselves out.	Justice wanted	Jan 2012	#8
It's a circus and they are the clowns	liberal N proud	Jan 2012	#9
What?	libodem	Jan 2012	#12

Response to Justice wanted (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:30 PM

zipplewrath (8,912 posts)

1. Never have been

Simultaneous press conferences is about the best we've ever had. These things have been taken over by the "news as entertainment" industry and they are turning them into "game shows".

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:34 PM

Justice wanted (2,657 posts)

5. Once upon a time in this country we had true debates than they started putting them on

TV and limiting time so that sponsors could be credited (like in the Nixon Kennedy debates) Or the candidates "Research" staff figured out about one liners.

Audiences where also smarter.

Look at the great debates in History like Lincoln Douglas Debates.

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Response to Justice wanted (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:50 PM

zipplewrath (8,912 posts)

10. Lincoln Douglas were probably the exception

At least at the presidential level. It would have been interesting to been in the pubs and saloons when they were hammering out this country. The discussions in Boston alone would have been fascinating. Being at Franklins house in Philly when the Constitution was being written. These might have been fascinating.

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Response to Justice wanted (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:31 PM

GoneOffShore (11,131 posts)

2. More like Amoeba and Virus show.

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Response to Justice wanted (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:32 PM

onenote (22,020 posts)

3. I'm curious. How do you propose to "ban" the "debates"?

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No one is making you watch them.

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Response to onenote (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:37 PM

Justice wanted (2,657 posts)

7. NO true No one is making ANYONE watch! But why call these things Debates when they aren't really

debates?

The question is jonathan Swiftian to make one think.

BUT we are the people IF enough of us do not watch. Are they really going to continue putting them on the air?

You in a sense "Ban" it by not watching it. You in a sense let these broadcasters know you are not going to fall prey to this Dog and pony show they have renamed a DEBATE

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Response to Justice wanted (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:55 PM

onenote (22,020 posts)

11. between 3 and 6 million are watching

(with the exception being the debate that was on Bloomberg Channel that most people probably couldn't find. I doubt that getting DUers not to watch (to the extent that they do) would substantially impact those numbers.

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Response to onenote (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:59 PM

Justice wanted (2,657 posts)

13. I'm saying in general. Next time someone complains about the debates make the suggestion

look what the powers the American people can do when being used... The stopping of PIPA and SOPA -yeah I know it's being re-formualated into another bill-but when the American people put their mind to it they can bring about change.

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Response to Justice wanted (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 06:17 PM

onenote (22,020 posts)

14. The folks that I know who complain about the debates already don't watch them

I think most of the folks watching are partisans who prefer one candidate or the other. They're not complaining about them.

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Response to Justice wanted (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:34 PM

Enrique (22,648 posts)

4. the last one was really bad, imo

hardly any substance at all. Brian Williams seemed terrible to me, if I remember correctly the only substantial questions came from the other moderators.

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Response to Justice wanted (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:36 PM

Scuba (26,783 posts)