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Sat Jan 5, 2013, 04:21 PM

No doubt about it, we're screwed!!

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Reply No doubt about it, we're screwed!! (Original post)
Playinghardball Jan 2013 OP
Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #1
RKP5637 Jan 2013 #2
jonthebru Jan 2013 #3
ReRe Jan 2013 #6
AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #13
mimi85 Jan 2013 #15
AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #18
OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #4
Amonester Jan 2013 #5
UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #7
AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #10
xtraxritical Jan 2013 #19
glinda Jan 2013 #8
alterfurz Jan 2013 #9
Flaxbee Jan 2013 #11
xtraxritical Jan 2013 #20
AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #12
cantbeserious Jan 2013 #14
MrScorpio Jan 2013 #16
sheshe2 Jan 2013 #17
snappyturtle Jan 2013 #21
whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #22

Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 04:22 PM

1. So depressing...

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 04:34 PM

2. We've taken paradise and practically destroyed it ... n/t

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 04:42 PM

3. A man named Thom Hartmann once said:

"Despair is not an option!"

https://movetoamend.org/

http://anticorruptionact.org/

Are you active, engaged and involved in you local community?
We can't each do everything, we can't be involved in every issue. But we can do something. Maybe one thing.

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Response to jonthebru (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:15 PM

6. Great links!

+1000

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Response to jonthebru (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:51 PM

13. Indeed so. Hartmann was SPOT ON with that.

And there are people out there, like Bill McKibben, for example, who are doing their very best to help make a better world possible. And I salute them for it.

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Response to AverageJoe90 (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:39 PM

15. Absolutely!

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Response to mimi85 (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 07:04 PM

18. Thanks Mimi.

As Herculean of a task as it may seem at times, mitigating global warming is not impossible. Loads and loads of scientific research has been done that shows us how it can be done. Really, it's not at all a question of "Can we do it?", but "when will we do it?". And time is of the essence if we want a good chance of avoiding a 2-3*C temperature rise by 2100 or so.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 04:44 PM

4. Yep...think about it...we're like mold multiplying and growing on the surface of an orange. nt.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 04:45 PM

5. Looks like the Supernova outter-layers are about to hit us sooner than...

all models predicted.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:33 PM

7. We're an invasive species.

 

When you think about it that way it kind of makes all of our self-important problems and squabbles and wars seem trivial doesn't it? We're apes with too much intelligence and no common sense. It's too late to change our course. Homosapiens will keep going the direction we're headed until this planet is destroyed and we cease to exist. If there were beings from other worlds observing us, that would have to be their conclusion.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:46 PM

10. As a rational, thinking person, I question this conclusion of yours quite strongly.

Yes, we have a problem to deal with, a ginormous one, and one that has proven to be tough to solve. But to say that we will cease to exist? The honest truth is, reality says otherwise, even if a select few people really DO want us to disappear.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 07:39 PM

19. Darwin and Malthus already know the answer.

 

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:34 PM

8. Kick. *Note Petitions to sign.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:37 PM

9. "The earth is an organism, and that organism has a skin; that skin has diseases...

...and one of these diseases is man." -- Nietzsche

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:48 PM

11. An excellent reminder for birth control.

Honest to god, if there were fewer of us rampaging about this planet, Earth would be in much better shape.

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Response to Flaxbee (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 07:42 PM

20. Does ZPG (zero population growth) still exist? I never had any kids, they're such an

 

expensive buzz kill.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:50 PM

12. Yes, indeed, there is a problem.

Humans per se? No, not really. It IS, however, certain things that we are doing, that are causing problems. I'm not just talking about Co2 output.....the problem is much deeper than that; it's also deforestation, strip mining, mountaintop removal, and, yes, even ground pollution is a problem(such as what has sometimes occurred with fracking).

But calling us an "invasive species", while understandable to a point, isn't quite helping us get the word out. I would much rather let facts do the talking.....what we really need, are more presentations like "Chasing Ice"(I haven't seen it yet, btw, but I would love to!), and more people like our own GreenMan and the Skeptical Science guys(and far less like David Wasdell and Guy McPherson for that matter!), laying out actual science.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:37 PM

14. Earth's Acne - The Human Race

eom

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:41 PM

16. "Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet."

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:47 PM

17. You don't know what you got til it's gone....

Big Yellow Taxi
by Joni Mitchell

They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel *, a boutique
And a swinging hot spot

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

They took all the trees
Put 'em in a tree museum *
And they charged the people
A dollar and a half just to see 'em

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

Hey farmer farmer
Put away that DDT * now
Give me spots on my apples
But leave me the birds and the bees
Please!

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

Late last night
I heard the screen door slam
And a big yellow taxi
Took away my old man

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

The song was written about Hawaii. If you go to the site,it will tell you the history about the Pink Hotel and the Tree Museum. Interesting.

Thanks for the post,Playinghardball!

She

http://jonimitchell.com/music/song.cfm?id=208

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 07:54 PM

21. K&R Friday night's Bill Moyers Journal was on climate change.

http://billmoyers.com/

Check out #1 for the full video and #4 for additional resources. His guest, a Yale scholar as I recall, thinks we're pretty much screwed although he has some hope. This is a good CALM look at the realities we're facing. imho

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 08:04 PM

22. That's why the main concern of this board - what douchebag republican A, B, or C, said or did -

no longer resonates with many of us.

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