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Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:08 AM

1,410,157,000,000 and counting............

cost of the oil wars since 2001...that`s how many years ago?

http://costofwar.com/

econ 101---1,410,000,000,000 trillion dollars invested into the public good would return at least 4 trillion into the economy. we would have "full employment" today.


check your state,city,county, or congressional district to see how much it has lost.

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Response to madrchsod (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:12 AM

1. How much does that number look like the deficit reduction target? n/t

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Response to madrchsod (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 12:08 PM

2. Aside: "...1,410,000,000,000 trillion (sic) dollars...." should be 1.41 trillion USD.

The cost of the wars is not the vastly larger number which you have written.

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Response to madrchsod (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 12:14 PM

3. Do you mean


$1,410,157,000,000 trillion?

Or $1.410157 trillion?

I'm suppose you mean the latter. The former is impossible in today's economy, but I have to check, because the way you have it stated would be a twelve digit decimal error. For people who have a hazier idea of the scale you're talking about, that could give them the wrong idea if you're overstating by twelve digits.

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Response to madrchsod (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 01:45 PM

4. this was said many years ago in regards to napoleonic war by William Pitt,

PM of england. i have a set of greatest orations, published in 1907. YES, i am reading the books before ebay.

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Response to madrchsod (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 01:48 PM

5. Geez, same as the deficit! Keep the military sequester.

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Response to madrchsod (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 04:27 PM

6. These get published every week in our local free paper, The Eugene Weekly

Going on since the start of the wars: http://www.eugeneweekly.com/article/war-dead-1-3-2013

Maybe for the first Gulf War as well, don't remember.

In Afghanistan

2,164 U.S. troops killed* (2,162)
18,167 U.S. troops wounded in action (18,154)
1,263 U.S. contractors killed (1,263)
12,793 civilians killed (12,793)
$597.8 billion cost of war ($595.6 billion)
$176.5 million cost to Eugene taxpayers

In Iraq

The war officially ended December 2011 with a total of 4,422 U.S. troops killed, 31,930 wounded in action and undisclosed hundreds of U.S. military suicides. But U.S. contractors have assumed a larger role, high levels of U.S. spending continue, and the body count from civil unrest grows.

1,587 U.S. contractors killed (1,587)
121,121 to 1.2 million civilians killed* (121,112)
$809.8 billion cost of war ($809.6 billion)
$239.1 million cost to Eugene taxpayers

I wasn't in Oregon at the time of Vietnam, Korea, WW2, ...

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Response to madrchsod (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 04:43 PM

7. kinda makes the whole fiscal cliff thing laughable kabuki theater.

actually it's not that funny...

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Response to KG (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 04:55 PM

8. +1

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Response to madrchsod (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:33 PM

9. Most of that is borrowed money...just wait until the bond vigilantes start demanding a better return

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