Superficial I know, but still.....

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:33 PM

laruemtt (3,820 posts)

1. She is so gorgeous! n/t

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Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:34 PM

zipplewrath (8,912 posts)

2. No "but" about it

And quite honestly, it doesn't look like many of her more "candid" photos.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:39 PM

FrenchieCat (67,336 posts)

4. Looks like her to me......

Are what do you mean? She should look exactly like she does on a magazine cover
at all times?

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:45 PM

zipplewrath (8,912 posts)

5. But not as she does in press photos.

look at this:

http://chicago.about.com/od/chicagopeople/ss/MObamaPictures1_5.htm

for a comparison.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:54 PM

FrenchieCat (67,336 posts)

7. I don't get your point....

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can you clarify?

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:00 PM

zipplewrath (8,912 posts)

13. I'm not sure how much more clear

The magazine cover barely looks like the other "noncover" photos. It looks more like a "look alike" or some younger sister or something. Facial proportions are off. Skin looks different. She looks a different weight.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:01 PM

FrenchieCat (67,336 posts)

15. Oh.......

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Yeah...cause other people look exactly the same on magazine covers as they
do in their candid photos......

It looks just like her to me.....
and some 48 year old women wish they could look as good,
skin and all.....but whatever!

Well Have a nice day anyways!

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:16 PM

Major Hogwash (12,368 posts)

25. She angry black woman.

Angry. Black. Woman.
They even gots a book about how angry that black woman is.
Ooooohhh, angry black woman.

When someone asks who you are going to vote for . . .
say "Obama" . . like this little feller --->

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:10 AM

dmr (25,776 posts)

30. Oh man, she's gorgeous, & you know what?

That gorgeous hunk she's married to - I hope he sings to her.

He can sing to me any day

I've been trying to download him all day for my ringtone, but I can't get it to work.
http://www.barackobama.com/ringtone/
:swoon:

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:14 AM

zipplewrath (8,912 posts)

38. She looks "lighter"

Color wise yes, but also a bit thinner. He jaw looks a tad "thinner" than in other photos. I suspect its the camera lens they used. Quite honestly, I like her "candid" look better. Never was a fan of the "over made up" look, nor the china doll schtick.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:20 AM

SidDithers (27,133 posts)

41. Are you suggesting that's not Michelle Obama on that magazine cover?...nt

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #41)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:01 AM

zipplewrath (8,912 posts)

42. How did you get that?

Really, I'm curious how you get such a conclusion from anything that I wrote? Do you not understand the concept of similie or metaphor?

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #42)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:25 AM

FrenchieCat (67,336 posts)

43. I don't understand the standard in which you used to judge her pic.....

Guess that you've decided that a woman of her age, and who is neither
a professional model or an actress made to look younger via surgery and injection
is supposed to somehow look like the cover of a magazine at all times, including
when taking candid photos.

Even young women who are models and acting celebrities do not walk around looking
like their magazine covers.

Just the mere fact that you would have commented in that way, in this thread, gives us
a better view as to the type of individual that you are, in particular when it comes to this woman.

I thank you for that.

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #43)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:47 PM

zipplewrath (8,912 posts)

45. Bad supposition

Try again.

The original post mentioned the superficiality. I was agreeing with that term. There is something fundamentally superficial about photographing someone to look like they don't look. Even more so to make them temporarily appear to be some approximation of a false "ideal".

She's a good looking woman in her own right. It seems horribly supeficial to make her appear "differently" merely to conform to some ideal of what she "should" look like.

As far as your suppositions. The reason that scientists do double blind studies is because it is very easy to find what you're looking for, even when it's not there.

Your suppositions, and your supposed "better views" give us more insight into you, and what you are looking for, than anything about me.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #45)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:08 PM

FrenchieCat (67,336 posts)

46. The fact that you have to post so many times to

justify your critique of a photo.....
and beyond that, the fact that you are
a consistent harsh critic of The Obama administration
in general says to me, that there really are times when
if you don't have anything good to say,
then saying nothing is a great option, if for no other reason,
to demonstrate goodwill, and a lack of pettiness...

Some people learned that from their parents...
it's called home trainin'- http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=home%20trainin%27

.

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #46)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:42 PM

zipplewrath (8,912 posts)

52. I was participating in the discussion

It is a discussion forum after all. And my original comment was based upon the OP's comment about the superficiality. Basically I was agreeing. It is superficial. It's almost the poster child for superficial. Take a perfectly good looking woman and make her look like something she isn't. The impled reason being that what she is isn't some how "good enough".

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #42)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:42 AM

SidDithers (27,133 posts)

44. From this...

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It looks more like a "look alike" or some younger sister or something. Facial proportions are off. Skin looks different. She looks a different weight.

Guess I didn't read your meaning correctly.

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #44)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:12 PM

zappaman (8,385 posts)

48. wow

so now the Obama haters are actually picking on pictures of the first lady?
man, and I thought Bush hatred was bad!

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Response to zappaman (Reply #48)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:38 PM

zipplewrath (8,912 posts)

51. No

They were commenting upon the original posters "superficial" observation.

But keep looking for trouble where it doesn't exist, I'm sure you can find it if you try hard enough.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:21 AM

renie408 (9,193 posts)

32. That picture is from a completely different angle and was taken in '08.

I know I have gained and lost 20 pounds like four times in the last four years. I guess Mrs. Obama could have, too. Plus, I think they have lighting, etc, in magazine cover photo shoots that are not readily available for candid shots. Hence, the 'candidness'.

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Response to renie408 (Reply #32)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:12 AM

zipplewrath (8,912 posts)

37. Yup

And I suspect they used a wide angle lens too, it can change the apparent proportions of things in depth rather quickly. There's a definite "cover photo" aspect to the whole thing.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #37)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:16 PM

FrenchieCat (67,336 posts)

49. Cause it's a fucking "cover photo"....that's why! doh!

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But keep digging, as a picture of you is coming that much more in focus
to some of us the more you post in this thread.

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #49)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:37 PM

zipplewrath (8,912 posts)

50. Yup

Makes it real superficial doesn't it?

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Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:39 PM

gateley (61,929 posts)

3. I like her SO much! When I was deciding between Obama and Hillary, it was seeing Michelle saying

earnestly and sincerely, "he's a GOOD man" that made me look at him more closely.

We are so lucky to have her as FLOTUS. And Obama is lucky to have her as his partner!

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Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:49 PM

progressoid (27,342 posts)

6. Oops. Composition error.

Finger nail and earrings line up to look like long fingernails.

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Response to progressoid (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:56 PM

FrenchieCat (67,336 posts)

10. Ok....

Please critique this one too....
Might as well!

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:02 PM

zipplewrath (8,912 posts)

16. Same thing

I suspect, a bit like the Clinton cover photo (and a similar Coulter cover), that a very wide angle lens was being used, which changes proportions between very small differences in depth.

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:06 PM

progressoid (27,342 posts)

17. Much better ...

even though the wide angle lens makes her arms look a little big

And thank God they didn't go overboard with PhotoShop. She's too beautiful for that.

(disclaimer: I'm in the photog business)

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Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:56 PM

MagickMuffin (7,369 posts)

8. I don't see anything Superficial about the topics she discusses in the issue

Perhaps some people here will think that, but I think discussing such topics as self-doubt, early struggles, and wanting to help build self confidence in young girls. I hold her in the highest Light for wanting to be a role model, even though I'm usually not someone who has role models in my own life.

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Response to MagickMuffin (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 06:48 PM

FrenchieCat (67,336 posts)

23. I'm smiling at your post.....

because of course, you are totally correct!

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Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:56 PM

JustAnotherGen (5,600 posts)

9. It is NOT superficial

It simply is not superficial. What's wrong with have a beautiful black woman on the cover of a magazine who happens to hold ADVANCED degrees, is very accomplished and as an aside? Is married to the President of the United States of America? I'd rather see her - than Rihanna on the cover of a magazine. But that's me.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:01 PM

dawg (5,514 posts)

14. I think the superficial part ...

is the fact that she's just so darn pretty!

But I have always been able to appreciate a woman for her mind *and* her looks.

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Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:59 PM

Raffi Ella (3,519 posts)

11. Nice.

That is a great shot of her, thanks for posting.

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Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:00 PM

Little Star (11,654 posts)

12. Stunning!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:07 PM

politicasista (13,806 posts)

18. Kick

Nice pic.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:07 PM

LiberalAndProud (9,906 posts)

19. She's beautiful.

Beyond that, I very much want to read the article. Overcoming self doubt is a *big* issue in loved ones' lives at this moment in time.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:43 PM

one_voice (11,040 posts)

20. Big ole kick...

for Mrs. O!

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Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:48 PM

whatchamacallit (7,814 posts)

21. Lovely.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:52 PM

AtomicKitten (39,588 posts)

22. She is a lovely, smart, and sophisticated woman.

Glad she's First Lady.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 06:57 PM

Whisp (17,207 posts)

24. most beautiful, caring and intelligent First Lady ever.

so gorgeous body and soul.

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Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:38 PM

a kennedy (7,039 posts)

26. Love her, that's it.

sorry, my finger just kept hitting it. LOVE HER!!!

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #26)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:27 PM

FrenchieCat (67,336 posts)

27. Don't blame you one bit!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:39 PM

kaitcat (193 posts)

28. That amazing blue dress!

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:38 PM

applegrove (58,452 posts)

29. She's as photogenic as lady diana.

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Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:17 AM

Scurrilous (24,657 posts)

31. Thanks Frenchie.

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Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:24 AM

mmonk (47,307 posts)

33. Not superficial at all.

At least, not in my book.

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Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:26 AM

donheld (21,133 posts)

34. I am 100% an Obamabot. Michelle Obamabot that is.

She's the best first lady I've ever experienced. Every single time I see anything about her she shines inside and out.

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Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:28 AM

Cali_Democrat (14,700 posts)

35. superficiality is underrated

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Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:36 AM

bigwillq (59,603 posts)

36. I really like Michelle.

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I think she's done wonderful things as First Lady. I think she's very good in the role. From everything I know, I believe she is a very good wife and mother and, at the end of the day, that's what matters most.
And she's kind of sexy too.

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Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:18 AM

PA Democrat (10,988 posts)

39. Beautiful photo, but I like her message even better.

She is a great role model for young women.

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Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:20 AM

HipChick (9,421 posts)

40. I've never cared for Michelle...

to be honest - but she has really grown on me. I have been won over by her poise,and grace. She looks flawless - always. We are very blessed to have this gorgeous family in the White House, and to be able to witness in our lifetime.

52 replies	Author	Time	Post
Superficial I know, but still..... (Original post)	FrenchieCat	Jan 2012	OP
She is so gorgeous! n/t	laruemtt	Jan 2012	#1
No "but" about it	zipplewrath	Jan 2012	#2
Looks like her to me......	FrenchieCat	Jan 2012	#4
But not as she does in press photos.	zipplewrath	Jan 2012	#5
I don't get your point....	FrenchieCat	Jan 2012	#7
I'm not sure how much more clear	zipplewrath	Jan 2012	#13
Oh.......	FrenchieCat	Jan 2012	#15
She angry black woman.	Major Hogwash	Jan 2012	#25
Oh man, she's gorgeous, & you know what?	dmr	Jan 2012	#30
She looks "lighter"	zipplewrath	Jan 2012	#38
Are you suggesting that's not Michelle Obama on that magazine cover?...nt	SidDithers	Jan 2012	#41
How did you get that?	zipplewrath	Jan 2012	#42
I don't understand the standard in which you used to judge her pic.....	FrenchieCat	Jan 2012	#43
Bad supposition	zipplewrath	Jan 2012	#45
The fact that you have to post so many times to	FrenchieCat	Jan 2012	#46
I was participating in the discussion	zipplewrath	Jan 2012	#52
From this...	SidDithers	Jan 2012	#44
wow	zappaman	Jan 2012	#48
No	zipplewrath	Jan 2012	#51
That picture is from a completely different angle and was taken in '08.	renie408	Jan 2012	#32
Yup	zipplewrath	Jan 2012	#37
Cause it's a fucking "cover photo"....that's why! doh!	FrenchieCat	Jan 2012	#49
Yup	zipplewrath	Jan 2012	#50
I like her SO much! When I was deciding between Obama and Hillary, it was seeing Michelle saying	gateley	Jan 2012	#3
Oops. Composition error.	progressoid	Jan 2012	#6
Ok....	FrenchieCat	Jan 2012	#10
Same thing	zipplewrath	Jan 2012	#16
Much better ...	progressoid	Jan 2012	#17
I don't see anything Superficial about the topics she discusses in the issue	MagickMuffin	Jan 2012	#8
I'm smiling at your post.....	FrenchieCat	Jan 2012	#23
It is NOT superficial	JustAnotherGen	Jan 2012	#9
I think the superficial part ...	dawg	Jan 2012	#14
Nice.	Raffi Ella	Jan 2012	#11
Stunning!	Little Star	Jan 2012	#12
Kick	politicasista	Jan 2012	#18
She's beautiful.	LiberalAndProud	Jan 2012	#19
Big ole kick...	one_voice	Jan 2012	#20
Lovely.	whatchamacallit	Jan 2012	#21
She is a lovely, smart, and sophisticated woman.	AtomicKitten	Jan 2012	#22
most beautiful, caring and intelligent First Lady ever.	Whisp	Jan 2012	#24
Love her, that's it.	a kennedy	Jan 2012	#26
Don't blame you one bit!	FrenchieCat	Jan 2012	#27
That amazing blue dress!	kaitcat	Jan 2012	#28
She's as photogenic as lady diana.	applegrove	Jan 2012	#29
Thanks Frenchie.	Scurrilous	Jan 2012	#31
Not superficial at all.	mmonk	Jan 2012	#33
I am 100% an Obamabot. Michelle Obamabot that is.	donheld	Jan 2012	#34
superficiality is underrated	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2012	#35
I really like Michelle.	bigwillq	Jan 2012	#36
Beautiful photo, but I like her message even better.	PA Democrat	Jan 2012	#39
I've never cared for Michelle...	HipChick	Jan 2012	#40
I've always liked her.	TBF	Jan 2012	#47

1. She is so gorgeous! n/t

2. No "but" about it

4. Looks like her to me......

5. But not as she does in press photos.

7. I don't get your point....

13. I'm not sure how much more clear

15. Oh.......

25. She angry black woman.

30. Oh man, she's gorgeous, & you know what?

38. She looks "lighter"

41. Are you suggesting that's not Michelle Obama on that magazine cover?...nt

42. How did you get that?

43. I don't understand the standard in which you used to judge her pic.....

45. Bad supposition

46. The fact that you have to post so many times to

52. I was participating in the discussion

44. From this...

48. wow

51. No

32. That picture is from a completely different angle and was taken in '08.

37. Yup

49. Cause it's a fucking "cover photo"....that's why! doh!

50. Yup

3. I like her SO much! When I was deciding between Obama and Hillary, it was seeing Michelle saying

6. Oops. Composition error.

10. Ok....

16. Same thing

17. Much better ...

8. I don't see anything Superficial about the topics she discusses in the issue

23. I'm smiling at your post.....

9. It is NOT superficial

14. I think the superficial part ...

11. Nice.

12. Stunning!

18. Kick

19. She's beautiful.

20. Big ole kick...

21. Lovely.

22. She is a lovely, smart, and sophisticated woman.

24. most beautiful, caring and intelligent First Lady ever.

26. Love her, that's it.

27. Don't blame you one bit!

28. That amazing blue dress!

29. She's as photogenic as lady diana.

31. Thanks Frenchie.

33. Not superficial at all.

34. I am 100% an Obamabot. Michelle Obamabot that is.

35. superficiality is underrated

36. I really like Michelle.

39. Beautiful photo, but I like her message even better.

40. I've never cared for Michelle...

47. I've always liked her.