Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:09 PM

kpete (38,867 posts)

It is DISGUSTING that the rich get to hide $ in the Caymans while saying the poor don't pay enough

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Romney has said he was unemployed. He's right. He actually does nothing to earn most of his income. He's just in possession of a giant pile of cash. He pays some people to do stuff with that giant pile of cash so it earns a rate of return. And because we are ruled by horrible people who think the lives of the 1% are more important than everyone else, the tax rate on any money that pile of cash earns is much lower than it is on the money earned by people who actually work.
http://www.eschatonblog.com/2012/01/unemployed.html

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It is DISGUSTING that the rich get to hide $ in the Caymans while saying the poor don't pay enough
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..................It is a disgusting outrage that the people who made wealth in the America we all worked together to build can hide that wealth in the Cayman Island to avoid taxes while demanding that the poor and working class pay more.

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So here is a New Rule: You are not a patriot if you hide money you made in America in the Cayman Islands to avoid taxes, and you're not allowed to call yourself a patriot until you put your money where your mouth is and take it out of the Cayman Islands and bring it all back to America where it came from.

Rant off

Screw these whiny multi-millionaire tax cheats.

MORE:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/24/1057984/-It-is-DISGUSTING-that-the-rich-get-to-hide-$-in-the-Caymans-while-saying-the-poor-dont-pay-enough?via=siderec

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14 replies	Author	Time	Post
It is DISGUSTING that the rich get to hide $ in the Caymans while saying the poor don't pay enough (Original post)	kpete	Jan 2012	OP
true, i've been saying that since the 90s...	Blue_Tires	Jan 2012	#1
Let a poor man try it	HillWilliam	Jan 2012	#2
They still cry class warfare even after they've won.	FarLeftFist	Jan 2012	#3
It seems like every rightie has a persecution complex	Proud Liberal Dem	Jan 2012	#9
I'm not sure if this still holds true, but thanks to Newt Gingrich	PA Democrat	Jan 2012	#4
It is also ironic that some will claim to know that Rmoney's Caymen tax avoidance scheme is legal	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#5
Large corporations hold $2 trillion of profits in overseas accounts.	stufl	Jan 2012	#6
Isn't this a yearly dance?	Ship of Fools	Jan 2012	#8
"Corporate taxes used to constitute 30% of the US income. Today it has fallen to 6%."	redqueen	Jan 2012	#10
I agree.	stufl	Jan 2012	#12
Here you go!	redqueen	Jan 2012	#13
Thanks.	stufl	Jan 2012	#14
It's disgusting, but it's been something people seem to think of in a positive light since reagan.	redqueen	Jan 2012	#7
It's mondo disgusting, and I'm glad he didn't wait til April to release this.	AtomicKitten	Jan 2012	#11

Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:12 PM

Blue_Tires (31,647 posts)

1. true, i've been saying that since the 90s...

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:15 PM

HillWilliam (3,157 posts)

2. Let a poor man try it

and the IRS will be pulling bloody chunks off his ass for the rest of his life. I know someone that happened to.

The difference is the big guys can pay snakes-in-suits high-dollar lawyers to make sweet deals, then keep on doing what they're doing. IIRC Congress gave itself immunity some years back on this very tax-evasion scam. I remember being furious about it during the B*sh years.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:18 PM

FarLeftFist (6,161 posts)

3. They still cry class warfare even after they've won.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:00 PM

Proud Liberal Dem (11,744 posts)

9. It seems like every rightie has a persecution complex

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It seems to be part of their genetic makeup.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:34 PM

PA Democrat (10,987 posts)

4. I'm not sure if this still holds true, but thanks to Newt Gingrich

the poor were more likely to be audited in the year 2000 than the rich. Newt Gingrich that self-proclaimed champion of the poor was incensed to think that some poor working person might be misusing the earned income tax credit.

The intensified focus on low-income taxpayers resulted from pressure on the I.R.S. beginning in 1995. Newt Gingrich, who was then House speaker, and other Republican Congressional leaders were concerned about misuse of the earned income tax credit, a program that allows the working poor, especially those with children, to receive money from the government through a form of negative income tax. They proposed to sharply reduce the credit, prompting President Clinton to counter with a plan to bolster audits to reduce fraud and mistakes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/16/business/irs-more-likely-to-audit-the-poor-and-not-the-rich.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:40 PM

AnotherMcIntosh (7,459 posts)

5. It is also ironic that some will claim to know that Rmoney's Caymen tax avoidance scheme is legal

without having the opportunity to review the particular details and without being in a position to hold themselves out as having an expertise in tax law.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:48 PM

stufl (96 posts)

6. Large corporations hold $2 trillion of profits in overseas accounts.

They paid foreign taxes and were negotiating for taxes of about 5% or less to bring the money into the country. I don't know how much they really owed but the 5% was a significdant discount. I do not know how the issue ended. It probably is still unresolved.

Corporate taxes used to constitute 30% of the US income. Today it has fallen to 6%.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:54 PM

Ship of Fools (1,453 posts)

8. Isn't this a yearly dance?

I think they're lured back with a *tax holiday.* It seems to me it's happened more
than once before. Someone please inform me.

Thanks.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:02 PM

redqueen (102,376 posts)

10. "Corporate taxes used to constitute 30% of the US income. Today it has fallen to 6%."

That really deserves a lot more exposure.

These parasites are bleeding us dry.

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Response to redqueen (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:42 PM

stufl (96 posts)

12. I agree.

Please advise on the method to make this known generally. I read it on the internet (no source available now) but have never heard it on the news. Should I have expected anything different?

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Response to stufl (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:45 PM

redqueen (102,376 posts)

13. Here you go!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/02/corporate-tax-revenues-ne_n_830361.html

I'll be passing that one on... every so often.

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Response to redqueen (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:58 PM

stufl (96 posts)

14. Thanks.

That shows corporate taxes as a % of GDP. It tells the story; however, as a % of taxes collected, the story becomes more dramatic.

You did corroborate the general direction of tax flows.

GE paid no taxes in 2010 but Obama seems to trust their CEO.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:51 PM

redqueen (102,376 posts)

7. It's disgusting, but it's been something people seem to think of in a positive light since reagan.

He seemed to communicate a whole new set of values. That greed is good, that cheating is cool, that caring for your fellow man was passe...

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:05 PM

AtomicKitten (39,581 posts)

11. It's mondo disgusting, and I'm glad he didn't wait til April to release this.

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