Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:44 PM
Newsjock (11,733 posts)
California activist fights carpool ticket by claiming his corporation was with him
Source: San Jose Mercury News
Corporate personhood takes a new leap forward Monday as a Marin County motorist challenges his traffic ticket by arguing it was OK to drive in the carpool lane because his corporation was with him.
Jonathan Frieman, a local activist and nonprofit consultant, was ticketed Oct. 2 for driving in the carpool lane during restricted hours; the officer apparently wasn't impressed when Frieman showed him his incorporation papers. A traffic court hearing is scheduled for Monday afternoon.
The fine for such a violation is $478, but Frieman, 59, of San Rafael, says that if the court rules against him Monday, he's prepared to appeal the case all the way to the California Supreme Court in an effort to expose the impracticality of corporate personhood.
... "Corporations are imaginary entities, and we've let them run wild," Frieman said in a news release. "Their original intent 200 years ago at the dawn of our nation was to serve human beings. So I'm wresting back that power by making their personhood serve me."
Read more: http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_22313940/political-blotter-corporate-personhood-moves-ahead-carpool-lane
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California activist fights carpool ticket by claiming his corporation was with him (Original post)
|Luminous Animal||Jan 2013||#3|
Response to Newsjock (Original post)
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:51 PM
Luminous Animal (27,310 posts)
3. I've entertained the idea for years of incorporating myself and registering to vote
under my incorporated name and testiing where that can go legally.
Response to CreekDog (Reply #9)
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:01 PM
shawn703 (2,639 posts)
12. I doubt it was a tactic to get out of the ticket
As much as it was someone "taking one for the team" to show that corporations aren't people.
My thought is he drove in the carpool lane with his incorporation papers hoping to get pulled over and hoping to get a ticket he could fight. If he ends up having to pay the fine in the end he probably won't care either, because a court would have to declare that corporations aren't people and don't enjoy the same rights and freedoms we do.
Response to Newsjock (Original post)
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 01:24 AM
DreamGypsy (2,235 posts)
16. NOT ONCE, when I've had my incorporation papers in the car ....
...have the papers criticized my driving. Going too slow, going too fast, accelerator/brake, accelerator/brake, crossing six lanes without glancing in the mirror, tailgating at nanometer distance, coffee in one hand/cigarette in the other, reading the newspaper while shaving, putting on lipstick with the left hand/eyeliner with the right. No! None of these things have caused my incorporation papers to shout, grab my arm, cover their eyes, threaten to open the door and jump, or even soil themselves. How can anyone claim that a corporation is a person?
Vehicle Code section 470 defines a "person" as "a natural person, firm, copartnership, association, limited liability company, or corporation." Section 21655.5, under which Frieman was cited, states that "no person shall drive a vehicle upon lanes except in conformity with the instructions imparted by the official traffic control devices."
Ford Greene, Frieman's attorney and a San Anselmo councilman, said the Vehicle Code makes "person" and "corporation" equivalent, so "when a corporation is present in one's car, it is sufficient to qualify as a two-person occupancy for commuter lane purposes. When the corporate presence in our electoral process is financially dominant, by parity it appears appropriate to recognize such presence in an automobile."
From the Thom Hartman interview, Frieman hopes to resolve the situation "as humorously as possible".