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Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:13 PM

Sounds like its going to be Joe Biden/Julian Castro for Dem Pres and VP in 2016

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2012/11/26/julian-castro-barack-obama-hispanic-voters/1725305/

Column: Julian Castro positions himself for 2016

DeWayne Wickham6:48p.m. EST November 26, 2012

Julian Castro is quietly forging a path that could put him in the White House in 2016.

The second-term Democratic mayor of San Antonio made his debut in the national spotlight this year when he became the first Hispanic to give the keynote address at a major political party's national convention. Since then, a confluence of good moves and good timing is positioning Castro to be as big a political surprise in 2016 as Obama was in 2008.

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I liked Hillary, but with her not being able to fly internationally any more rules her out for President I think.

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Reply Sounds like its going to be Joe Biden/Julian Castro for Dem Pres and VP in 2016 (Original post)
NNN0LHI Jan 2013 OP
TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #1
loyalsister Jan 2013 #6
NNN0LHI Jan 2013 #7
DonViejo Jan 2013 #10
krawhitham Jan 2013 #30
DonViejo Jan 2013 #34
Midwestern Democrat Jan 2013 #44
TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #13
Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #15
RebelOne Jan 2013 #33
RudynJack Jan 2013 #2
pnwmom Jan 2013 #3
IDoMath Jan 2013 #4
krawhitham Jan 2013 #31
riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #5
eilen Jan 2013 #9
riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #14
merrily Jan 2013 #25
Brother Buzz Jan 2013 #8
Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #27
former9thward Jan 2013 #11
nobodyspecial Jan 2013 #39
madinmaryland Jan 2013 #12
Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #28
madokie Jan 2013 #16
graham4anything Jan 2013 #17
cherokeeprogressive Jan 2013 #38
graham4anything Jan 2013 #42
LeftInTX Jan 2013 #18
merrily Jan 2013 #24
Swede Atlanta Jan 2013 #19
graham4anything Jan 2013 #43
dsc Jan 2013 #20
MrScorpio Jan 2013 #21
Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #29
bluestate10 Jan 2013 #22
Le Taz Hot Jan 2013 #23
elleng Jan 2013 #26
PennsylvaniaMatt Jan 2013 #37
aquart Jan 2013 #32
davidn3600 Jan 2013 #35
Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #36
Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #40
LukeFL Jan 2013 #41
BlueStater Jan 2013 #45

Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:16 PM

1. How 'bout Gillibrand/Castro?

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:23 PM

6. I like that better

I think it would be wise to have a nominee who is younger. The Gen Xers are beginning to make up a more and more influential voting bloc.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:23 PM

7. I think that decision is left up to Joe

Being the current VP I think he gets first shot at the job. Not sure about this but I think that's the way it works,

Maybe someone else knows?

Don

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Response to NNN0LHI (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:31 PM

10. The VP can run but he has to win primaries...

to get the nomination.

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Response to DonViejo (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:02 PM

30. please name an 8 year VP who ran and did not win the nomination

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #30)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:11 PM

34. I didn't say anything about his ability to win...

just responding by telling the process he'll have to go through. Joe Biden (or any other Veep) doesn't get the party nomination by divine right.

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #30)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:40 PM

44. The VP as heir apparent is a relatively recent phenomenom - Nixon in '60 was really the first case

John Adams doesn't count - he was the first Vice President and nobody yet really knew how powerless that position actually was at that point.

Martin Van Buren was Andrew Jackson's heir apparent, but he was only named VP for the second term because Jackson's enemies in the Senate blocked his appointment as Minister to England (initally, Van Buren was in the then-traditional springboard to the presidency - Secretary of State - Madison, Monroe, and John Quincy Adams all went directly from SOS to POTUS, and Jefferson had served as SOS in the Washington administration).

To be honest, I've always seen the last two Vice Presidents (Cheney and Biden) as kind of a return to the traditional Vice President - (albeit, both of these men were/are much more involved in the administration than the traditional VP) - someone who's not expected to be the standard bearer in eight years.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:41 PM

13. I think Joe will have an uphill battle in a campaign in three years--

in age and in attacks on his gaffes, etc. Probably the R's will run someone younger, since they have no heir apparent this time--do not want another Obama/McCain matchup in reverse, it won't go well for us.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:43 PM

15. He's going to be 74 in 2016

I would expect someone else, I think.

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Response to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #15)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:11 PM

33. Yes, he is probably going to be too old.

I will be 74 in two weeks and I have found myself slowing down in everything I do. I love Joe Biden, but his age will be a deterrent.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:17 PM

2. What are you talking about?

Why can't Hillary fly internationally?

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:17 PM

3. Who says she can't fly internationally? Cheney's history of blood clots didn't keep him

from flying or being first in line to the Presidency.

They have low dose blood thinning injections that they can give now before any long flight, if it turns out she needs it.

There could be any number of reasons she might not run, but this won't be it.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:17 PM

4. Probably not Joe

 

I don't see Biden making a successful run in 2016.

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Response to IDoMath (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:05 PM

31. If he runs he has it in the bag

He will inherit the Obama ground game
Labor loves him
He will get the old white voters
Name an 8 year VP who ran and did not win the nomination

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:19 PM

5. 2016 is a long time away

My son who was almost 25 and in perfect health had seizures and 18 months was dead from brain cancer. My good friend and that same age as mesas in perfect health but two years later dead of breast cancer. My 51 year old husband in perfect health was invaded by non Hodgkin's lymphoma.band died 3 years later.

Let us wait until 2015 PLEASE!!!!!

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:28 PM

9. OMG, I am really sorry for your losses. nt

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Response to eilen (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:42 PM

14. thank you i just

Want everyone to know. Nothing is certain..life shorter than you think. He was 26.

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:18 PM

25. I am so very sorry.

Seems so inadequate to say that, but everything has to be inadequate in light of all that.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:25 PM

8. Even money says Joaquín Castro has an equal shot at it

I'm just saying

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:41 PM

27. No, not a Congress person or senator, whatever he is. Obama was the exception.

Usually the votes in the nat'l legislature are too easy to be attacked. Bills have weird things in them or attached to them, which legislators sometimes don't know, or they vote for a bill because the main thing in the bill is more important than the pork in it.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:37 PM

11. Nobody has grounded Hillary.

Her doctors said no to international travel until about the middle of this month -- not forever.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:22 PM

39. Seriously!

Where do they come up with this. If Hillary runs, I'm on board. She's more than earned it.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:40 PM

12. I would be ok with Martin O'Malley picking Julian Castro as his VEEP.


ETA: Don't think Biden will run in 2016.

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Response to madinmaryland (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:42 PM

28. Think again. That has been a goal of his for many years. I think he also said something

in 2012 about it....I don't recall what he said, but it was an indication he might run.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:44 PM

16. Needless to say I like both these guys

Vice President Biden and Mayor Castro
Both a little bigger than life
Both honest as the day is long

ETA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Castro. Good man

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:46 PM

17. Hillary45. End of story.

 

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:22 PM

38. Does suffering a concussion and resulting blood clot at 65 have any lasting effects?

I'd think that question would have to be resolved before we say "End of story".

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #38)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 10:52 PM

42. Joe Biden had one 40 years ago. Hillary45 won it already.It takes a Clinton to defeat a Bush

 

It is going to be a woman. (and Hillary is the singular most qualified of anyone in any party.)
and only Hillary45 can beat Jeb Bush(or Rubio or any candidate.)

None of the others can beat Jeb Bush.

Biden would make a great VP for Hillary45. Along with many others including Mass. greatest Deval Patrick or Vicky Kennedy.

a ten year old playing with his bicycle gets these all the times and 40 years later the ten year old is 50. Every single hockey player or soccer player gets one a week probably.

Hillary45 always has yet another thing people use against her, and it matters little as her fans plus President Obama's fans number in the millions and the only reason she did not win in 2008 was because of President Obama's fans who will be there for her this time.

Any dissent in the media is just a part of the vast rightwing conspiracy Hillary45 said famously so many years ago. People didn't believe her then, but they sure know now.

Hillary45's VP could also be the new Virginia Governor in 2014. They worked well together in the past. You never know.

Hillary56 for the continuation of President Obama's 8 years.
Who would want a change from that anyhow?
(wish the President could run for 4 terms like FDR did).

and Hillary45 can name President Obama to the US Supreme Court in 2018. If we are lucky as Chief Justice on Roberts retirement.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:48 PM

18. Hillary had a blood clot in her leg in 1998

It didn't prevent her from becoming SOS

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #18)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:16 PM

24. It's amazing that doctors did not put her on anti-coagulants then, or at

least monitor her very closely.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:48 PM

19. I admire Joe Biden....

he is a skillful politician and a good man.

But I don't see him running for President in 2016. Reagan was 70 when he was elected to office. Biden is 70 and would be nearly 75 in 2016.

He has served his country well but I think at that age, for his own health and concern for his family, etc. he should be allowed to move to private life. I am sure he will stay engaged in politics but not necessarily as a politician.

Hillary will be 70 in 2016. I'm not suggesting that immediately disqualifies her but doesn't she have a right, after years of public service whether as First Lady of Arkansas and later the U.S. to her years in the Senate and her tour of duty at State, to go into private life?

We need to start grooming the next generation of Democratic leaders. I saw some of the sparkle, enthusiasm and excitement in the two Castro brothers during the 2012 Democratic Convention in Charlotte. Hispanics are an important factor in politics and will become more important over time. The Republicons are definitely placing hopes in Marco Rubio.

But where are the younger generation of Asian-Americans, African-Americans, Native Americans etc. that can be groomed? Who are the prospective women leaders? Who are the prospective LGBT leaders - Tammy Baldwin should be watched carefully. Who are the disabled leaders that can bring their unique perspective to leadership - Tammy Duckworth comes to mind.

We are the "big tent" party and need to recruit and groom our wonderfully diverse pool of capable progressives for service.

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Response to Swede Atlanta (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 10:53 PM

43. Christine Quinn for Mayor of NYC 2013!

 

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:51 PM

20. It should be noted that Biden had

pretty much the same, or quite probably more dangerous, clot problem in 1988 and he seems to fly about just fine.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:54 PM

21. Our field is going to be way stronger than the Republicans'

All they'll have to offer is another Klown Kar of Kookiness.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #21)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:44 PM

29. As of now, I'd say Christie is the only one in their camp who'd have a chance. He'd be formidable

opponent.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:11 PM

22. I would like to see Biden and a woman that already has national prominence.

Biden and either Amy Klobuchar or Kristen Gillibrand would work, both women are young and then would be in line to serve for 8 years as President. Castro is too young and does not have national prominence, but he could run as the VP of one of the women or Joe Kennedy II can run as the VP. If we don't eat our young by being too "pure" and criticizing them for everything, our bench well into the future is strong.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:12 PM

23. Jeez, I hope not.

It will be Dukakis, Pt. Deux.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:38 PM

26. A bit soon for Castro, imo,

but adds to a strong Dem bench for the future.

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Response to elleng (Reply #26)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:18 PM

37. I agree...

He is a great contender in the future, but I think he needs a little more experience in a higher office than Mayor. That was something a lot of people, even some Democrats, questioned about President Obama, and he spent several years as US Senator.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:09 PM

32. Premature ejaculation much?

I swear to God, the law I want most is the one that gives the death penalty for any campaign discussion until one year before the election.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:13 PM

35. Too far off to really be putting much thought into this

There is going to be a primary process no matter what. No one is going to be given the nomination.

Just let it play out...

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:15 PM

36. I think Andrew Cuomo will be a strong contender (nt)

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:23 PM

40. I don't think Biden's gonna run.

It's a long way away, but, I doubt it.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:23 PM

41. I love both of them

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:56 PM

45. No to both of them.

I like Joe and respect his 40 years of service to making our country a better place. But the man is just too old. He would become president at age 74, for crying out loud. Not only would he be the oldest person to become president, I'm pretty sure he'd be the oldest person to ever be NOMINATED for president as well.

And the other guy is simply way too young and inexperienced.

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