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No Compromise

(373 posts)
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 06:11 PM Jan 2013

Football players Caught on Video Raping a Drunken Teenage Boy with a Beer Bottle

This is a recent incident that happened in a small town in Alaska, and as someone said in a comment, if this happened to a girl it would be national news. Recent events have proven this to be the case, but there is still time to bring national attention to this story as the trial has not happened.

After this event was posted on youtube, evidence was there for all to see, the video was taken down and adults and police in the community continued to carry on as if nothing happened.

The star football player was allowed to continue playing, he was needed for the championship game after all, and the victim was forced to leave town out of embarrassment.

When public pressure finally forced arrests of the brothers, the were let out on a pittance for bail, and allowed to take high paying jobs and go on about their lives.






Anthony Resetarits, Joseph Resetarits Charged In Beer Bottle Sodomy Of Juvenile

A high school football player and his brother have been arrested by authorities in Alaska for allegedly raping a drunken teenage boy with a beer bottle at a raucous underage drinking party.

"At some point after had been written on and drawn on, the individuals surrounding him on the couch began to yell out ideas about what should happen next," Stone said. "While it's still unknown who made the suggestions, it was reported that someone suggested sticking a carrot in anus, and then someone suggested sticking a beer bottle inside of anus."

After someone removed the victims' pants and underwear, Anthony Resetarits allegedly took a 12 oz. Alaskan White beer bottle and inserted the full length of the neck of the bottle into the victim's anus. At least one juvenile male witnessed the assault, which was also captured on a camera.

"Several other juveniles stated they didn't see who initially had inserted the bottle but had seen ... Anthony Resetarits "tapping" and "pushing" on the bottle ... Another female juvenile stated she observed Resetarits "wind up" and hit the bottle, which caused it to go deeper into anus," Stone wrote in his report.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/anthony-joseph-resetarits-beer-bottle-sodomy_n_1955080.html
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Football players Caught on Video Raping a Drunken Teenage Boy with a Beer Bottle (Original Post) No Compromise Jan 2013 OP
I think this stuff too often doesn't make the news in either case gollygee Jan 2013 #1
That's exactly right FightForMichigan Jan 2013 #25
The media can and does read the (publicly available) police blotter elehhhhna Jan 2013 #33
That's not always how it's done FightForMichigan Jan 2013 #35
Wow. Here near Houston it's all online -- elehhhhna Jan 2013 #59
I've been a rape crisis advocate for 30 years. No media attention for any cases for me either riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #36
10 years for me - Ms. Toad Jan 2013 #41
Even a young child is often accused of "asking for it." tblue37 Jan 2013 #45
My friend's rape was on the local news... Odin2005 Jan 2013 #80
Just horrible ... and how disgusting they basically just got a slap on the wrist for it. nt. polly7 Jan 2013 #2
right now they are out commercial fishing, making huge $$ No Compromise Jan 2013 #39
Second Degree Assault? Really? More like First Degree Rape! Liberal Veteran Jan 2013 #3
It should be sexual assault so that they are put on a sex offenders database for life TexasBushwhacker Jan 2013 #82
Oh good Lord... Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #4
there are millions of rapes a year BainsBane Jan 2013 #5
It's a crime that's not taken seriously, and it's about damned time that stopped! Thanks Anonymous! Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2013 #7
+1 redqueen Jan 2013 #34
I think another reason for the low prosecution rate.... ReRe Jan 2013 #65
How awful BainsBane Jan 2013 #66
I seen a clip on CNN (I think)... ReRe Jan 2013 #67
I don't know how effective it is BainsBane Jan 2013 #70
Thanks so much for the links to the books. ReRe Jan 2013 #71
Rec for exposure, prior to trial. This story needs legs. ...nt TeeYiYi Jan 2013 #6
this story needs press too abelenkpe Jan 2013 #8
thank you No Compromise Jan 2013 #12
Needs exposure. Not the first time this has happened, either. First video. freshwest Jan 2013 #9
Rec. That poor boy. historylovr Jan 2013 #10
It would be very difficult for me not to kill these people. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #11
and that is a major reason for people you love to NOT tell you when rape happens to them bettyellen Jan 2013 #15
Well, they were arrested and let go. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #18
And this is sadly all too common. Just letting you know, the talk of perpetuating violence holds no bettyellen Jan 2013 #26
I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I did nothing. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #40
my brother's friends wanted me to take them to a bar to settle a score on behalf of my brothers bettyellen Jan 2013 #44
Rest assured, your loved one knows how you feel - Ms. Toad Jan 2013 #46
So the rapists are free and you're the one who ends up in prison? lunatica Jan 2013 #74
They wouldn't be free. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #85
Never seems to be the chess club doing this, does it? Scootaloo Jan 2013 #13
LOL. bemildred Jan 2013 #14
where are they getting these coaches? No Compromise Jan 2013 #17
why did it take one month to act on this assault given videotape evidence the night of the rape? No Compromise Jan 2013 #20
His idol must be Jerry Sandusky. Ikonoklast Jan 2013 #21
Nice broad generalization Floyd_Gondolli Jan 2013 #19
well, i think there is more acceptance of this type of behavior among one group than the other JI7 Jan 2013 #23
Perhaps you can come up with a sex crime against member of a chess group lunatica Jan 2013 #75
And most mass shooters are deranged nerds Floyd_Gondolli Jan 2013 #86
Look. There is no need to conflate nerds with "deranged" loners. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2013 #87
says the broadest brush painter of all! lunatica Jan 2013 #89
Now, Now! That's awfully close to "football players just being football players" kenny blankenship Jan 2013 #27
Or ping-pong, chorus, art club, tennis.... lindysalsagal Jan 2013 #73
lol nope limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #76
Watch out, you just pissed off the sports cultists. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #81
And Homer is the hippie-dippie, "progressive" capital of Alaska! KamaAina Jan 2013 #16
This is true, Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #49
interesting story with following town discussion No Compromise Jan 2013 #22
For the love of pizza... TheOther95Percent Jan 2013 #24
yes, where are they getting this from? No Compromise Jan 2013 #32
Ignorance, irresponsibility and procrastination ReRe Jan 2013 #42
it took a month to get an arrest on this, one month after video evidence was posted on youtube No Compromise Jan 2013 #62
That's a very good question. WorseBeforeBetter Jan 2013 #37
Amen TheOther95Percent Jan 2013 #61
Unfortunately, it isn't national news when it happens Ilsa Jan 2013 #28
I don't care so much about whether this makes national news or not... white_wolf Jan 2013 #29
Is $5,000 normal bail for rape? No Compromise Jan 2013 #30
Bail depends on a lot of factors, and should not be punitive Recursion Jan 2013 #68
they have both left the area for high paying jobs No Compromise Jan 2013 #72
they had it on video on the night of the rape and still tried to call it ‘severe misconduct’ No Compromise Jan 2013 #31
The rape problem in this country.... ReRe Jan 2013 #38
Sick assholes. This is disgusting. Initech Jan 2013 #43
This was pretty big news up here, Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #47
That is horrendous. Jamastiene Jan 2013 #48
This is horrific. But didn't need the whiny "If this had....girl" complaint. WinkyDink Jan 2013 #50
Agreed. And I don't see anybody suggesting that the male victim shouldn't have been drunk. yardwork Jan 2013 #56
okay, sorry this was from a comment on huffington, thought it was accurate No Compromise Jan 2013 #60
Sadly, this type of sexual assault goes unreported a lot. Quantess Jan 2013 #64
God damn MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #51
Now, I feel like an ass for giving that DU'r MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #53
You know, I just don't want to see this on DU. Don't waste typing trying to change my mind. xtraxritical Jan 2013 #52
Why don't you want to see it on DU? yardwork Jan 2013 #57
Personally I'd like to see trigger warnings with stuff like this (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #69
K & R Tsiyu Jan 2013 #54
In the '70s caseymoz Jan 2013 #55
This is sick. What the f**k is wrong w/ football players?! smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #58
WTF is going on in this country? Oh my god billbailey19448jj Jan 2013 #63
This was a heinous crime. The victim will be marred for life. The perpetrators are suffering ladjf Jan 2013 #77
community allowed the "perps" to continue their lives with little or no repercussions No Compromise Jan 2013 #78
Almost as bad as the crime itself. nt ladjf Jan 2013 #83
Football players, it's almost always football players. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #79
There might be some valuable corelationship between the nature of violent sports and social ladjf Jan 2013 #84
penn state. rape of only boys. made the news. it depends more where the outcry is coming from seabeyond Jan 2013 #88
Without Anonymous... NCTraveler Jan 2013 #90
This can cause anal tearing and permanent damage TrogL Jan 2013 #91

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
1. I think this stuff too often doesn't make the news in either case
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 06:15 PM
Jan 2013

This one case made the news because of the videos about it.

It's horrible, and I hope this rape victim gets justice, as I hope for all rape victims. Sadly, I see the charge was reduced? That's horrible.

FightForMichigan

(232 posts)
25. That's exactly right
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:18 PM
Jan 2013

I volunteer as an advocate for survivors of sexual assault, which means I often go to the hospital to be with them during the sexual assault examination. I can tell you that out of my 100 or so trips to the hospital, not a single one has ever been mentioned in national, much less local, media.

During much of my time as an advocate, I was also a reporter at our local paper. Often, after a weekend when I volunteered, I would make a round of calls to local police departments to ask if any major crimes had happened over the weekend. Not once was I ever told of a rape, even when I had been in the hospital with a woman who had been raped a day or two before.

Police aren't reporting it to the media, so the media aren't reporting it to the people. It's a massive cover-up, essentially. It's treated like it doesn't exist at all, unless it is a "good rape" - the kind where the victim is a senior citizen, Sunday school teacher or very young child who can't be characterized as having "asked for it."

The whole situation is depressing, but it really doesn't have much to do with whether the victim was male or female.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
33. The media can and does read the (publicly available) police blotter
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:37 PM
Jan 2013

And rape is lurid to them, thus it shoudl sell - scary content being the main theme in US media.

Perhaps you should check the blotter. I fear you'll learn that the arrestees are not being charged.

FightForMichigan

(232 posts)
35. That's not always how it's done
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:39 PM
Jan 2013

In fact, at the five papers I've worked at, actually physically checking the log was done at exactly one of them. The rest were done by phone calls. And don't look at that to change as long as newspapers keep slashing reporting staff. The last one I worked at cut its reporting staff by 50 percent over eight years, and I was one of the last ones to be laid off.

And I know most are not charged. Hell, most are never even arrested. Even more are never even reported.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
59. Wow. Here near Houston it's all online --
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:45 PM
Jan 2013

sheriff's office and local PD's. And yes, it's horrifying how many women I know who have been raped (for osome reason people are compelled to tell me their deepdark stuff...) and also the number of my young daughter's friends (she's in a teenrecovery 12-step program, so most of these girls, when they were using, hung around with pretty dicey people) who have had horrifying abuse perp'd by boyfriends, male "friends", classmates, dealers, and heartbreakingly in a whole OTHER dimension, their own family/stepfamily members...


From kindergarden on, when boys picks on girls, often by grossly violating their boundaries, we tell our daughters that it means the boy LIKES them. How effed up is THAT?

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
36. I've been a rape crisis advocate for 30 years. No media attention for any cases for me either
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:40 PM
Jan 2013

Its a well known fact for those of us who work closely with rape crisis centers that rape is under-reported and under-represented in the news.

And I 110% agree, it has nothing to do with gender.

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
41. 10 years for me -
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:18 PM
Jan 2013

One case hit the news. A particularly brutal one, in which the woman almost died from knife wounds. And she was white. And she had money.

tblue37

(64,979 posts)
45. Even a young child is often accused of "asking for it."
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:31 PM
Jan 2013

Remember that little 11-year-old girl in Texas who was blamed by the community for enticing the adult men and adolescent boys who gang raped her?

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
80. My friend's rape was on the local news...
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:46 PM
Jan 2013

...because she is disabled.

The fucker who raped her still got off!

polly7

(20,582 posts)
2. Just horrible ... and how disgusting they basically just got a slap on the wrist for it. nt.
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 06:16 PM
Jan 2013

I missed it hadn't gone to trial yet, hopefully they'll all get some serious time to understand the harm they've done.

BainsBane

(53,001 posts)
5. there are millions of rapes a year
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 06:20 PM
Jan 2013

very few make national news. Your assertion that such rapes against women automatically make national news is false, since only a handful of rapes are picked up by the national press. That in no way diminishes the atrocity of this crime. What a horrific experience for this boy to endure. Sadly, the experience of the boy's rapist mirrors that of those who rape women and girls--only 25% of reported rapes are prosecuted and an even smaller percentage of rapists face jail time. The tolerance of sexual assault in this nation is a profound moral failing and a travesty of our justice system.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
7. It's a crime that's not taken seriously, and it's about damned time that stopped! Thanks Anonymous!
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 06:26 PM
Jan 2013

Without Anonymous, this would've just gone away quietly.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
65. I think another reason for the low prosecution rate....
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 12:20 AM
Jan 2013

... is that the detectives often try to talk the victims out of pressing charges. I know about this, as it happened to me. The detective did his best to get me to not press charges. Said the defense lawyer would rake me thru the mud on the stand, etc., etc., etc. Make my life miserable. I was a grown married woman at that time, and I knew the defense lawyer would do no such thing, because I was clean as the riven snow. And that is exactly what happened. They wanted a plea bargain, and I said no, that I wanted it to go to trial. I was unafraid of the judicial system or the defense lawyer. The detective and I had done everything right. The evidence was iron clad. The asshole rapist was pleading "consensual", which was a bold-faced lie. I had never been with ANYONE beside my husband, thank you, and I don't lie. Ever. But the rapist kept saying consensual. Right up to the day that a trial date was to be set, he claimed innocent. And finally, on that day, he admitted to everything. The detective and DA said he wouldn't get anymore time if I went on with the trial, so I gave in when they said he was going to serve 8-10 in maximum, no parole. So, it did not go to trial, but justice was done nonetheless.

You have no idea how it felt when the detective tried to talk me out of going to trial. It was like being raped all over again. Most women cave in to the pressure, I think. Some of them are pressured by their hubbies/families to not do it, as it will (somehow) bring disgrace on the THEM if it goes to trial. That would be like being raped again too. But thank God that isn't how it was for me. It's a violent assault. Rape is rape is rape. No matter if it's a child, male or female or grown adult.

I came through it all in flying colors. I had a minimum of counseling and I've never looked back. The TRUTH really can set one free. I so hope that justice can be done for the young boy in this instance and that he will be provided the intensive counseling he's going to need for many years to come. The sad thing is that even if justice is done, the victim sometimes never recovers. That horrible moment in time haunts them for the rest of their days.

Please, everybody...continue on with the conversation. Do NOT stop and give me a second thought. I made it. This young boy needs all of our thoughts and prayers.

BainsBane

(53,001 posts)
66. How awful
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 01:36 AM
Jan 2013

Good for you for standing up to them, but you should never have been put in that situation.

In Brazil they have police stations staffed by women for crimes against women, like sexual assault and domestic violence. Given that the Brazilian police have a long history of operating outside the law, the women's police sometimes do so as well. They have groups called bate-homens, female police officers who go beat the crap out of men who refuse to stop harming women.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
67. I seen a clip on CNN (I think)...
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:01 AM
Jan 2013

... from India? A man (politician) I think had raped his wife or a woman, and the women in the community drug him out of his house and tore his clothes off and beat the tar out of him and then turned him over to police. I'm not sure of the whole story as I was listening to something on online radio. The women over there are mad as hell and aren't taking it anymore since the girl that got raped and killed on the bus about a week or so ago. Am I making sense? I'm typing too fast... That thing in Brazil you mention about the female police who rough up the men who assault/rape women? Does it work? Does that actually curtail the violence meted out on anything that moves (male/female/child/animal)? Hey, if they don't have a decent judicial system and little to no justice, I don't see anything wrong with it. They have to do whatever they have to do to survive.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
71. Thanks so much for the links to the books.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 03:09 AM
Jan 2013

Will order them online soon and get back to my reading...

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
9. Needs exposure. Not the first time this has happened, either. First video.
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 06:29 PM
Jan 2013

And I don't see any comments here about gender.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
11. It would be very difficult for me not to kill these people.
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 06:40 PM
Jan 2013

What other choice do you have when the "justice" system fails so miserably? You have to take matters into your own hands. I can't see just allowing them to get away with it.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
15. and that is a major reason for people you love to NOT tell you when rape happens to them
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 06:51 PM
Jan 2013

think about it, they just got raped.... and would not like to compound it by having loved ones in jail or dead.
people who don't report cite this frequently as a reason.

guys should do better and try hitting a middle ground between utter disbelief and denial and going Rambo.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
18. Well, they were arrested and let go.
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 06:58 PM
Jan 2013

I wouldn't have to correct these people myself if they had received the justice they deserved going through the system. If they had received prison time, I wouldn't be forced to do anything. But you're not going to hurt my kid and get off scott free. That's not how it works.

As much as I would want to handle it myself at first, I'd give the cops and courts the first shot.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
26. And this is sadly all too common. Just letting you know, the talk of perpetuating violence holds no
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:20 PM
Jan 2013

appeal to a large majority of victims, and it does hinder reporting these crimes in the first place.
Good guys can be pretty clueless about how to react to such horrible news. They want to "do" something, but the majority of women would prefer things not escalate to the point where our loved ones also can be harmed.
Just food for thought.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
40. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I did nothing.
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:01 PM
Jan 2013

But that doesn't mean I'd ever let anyone know about it when I did take action.

I understand what you're saying and would handle it appropriately.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
44. my brother's friends wanted me to take them to a bar to settle a score on behalf of my brothers
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:27 PM
Jan 2013

luckily my brother had anticipated this and made me swear I would not. About ten years later, the same brother offered to murder someone on my behalf. I declined.
But, I totally understand the impulse. Been on both sides of that one.

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
46. Rest assured, your loved one knows how you feel -
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:40 PM
Jan 2013

and if s/he is raped that makes it less likely that s/he will even tell you about it. It isn't about how you actually handle the violent retribution - it is that s/he knows that it is what you would do and may not be able to life with that (and the only way to prevent it is for him/her to handle the rape without you knowing about it). That means less support for your loved one, and more chance the rapist will continue to rape others.

As a survivor - and a peer advocate for 10 years - your loved one needs you to put him/her first.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
74. So the rapists are free and you're the one who ends up in prison?
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:52 AM
Jan 2013

What good would that do your kid?

I think most parents feel exactly as you do. I know I do, but it would make matters far worse on our kids if we ended up being criminals and paying the price. Chances are that our kids would never be able to forgive themselves.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
85. They wouldn't be free.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:21 AM
Jan 2013

They'd be "missing". And, damn, wouldn't it be a shame if they never turned up again.…

 

No Compromise

(373 posts)
17. where are they getting these coaches?
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 06:52 PM
Jan 2013

The perp stated in court he thought he should be let off because he is a good member of society and wants to be a coach himself in the future.
 

No Compromise

(373 posts)
20. why did it take one month to act on this assault given videotape evidence the night of the rape?
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:10 PM
Jan 2013

Sept 8 --Anthony Resetarits, 20, and Joseph Resetarits, 18, sexually assaulted an extremely drunk boy at a teenage drinking party, evidence posted on youtube for all to see.

Given overwhelming evidence via videotape on the night of the rape, It took a month for the police or football coaches to take action...


Oct 04, 2012 A Homer High School football player and his older brother were arrested Thursday on one count each of second-degree assault, a felony. In charging documents, Alaska State Troopers allege that two brothers, Anthony Resetarits, 20, and Joseph Resetarits, 18, sexually assaulted an extremely drunk boy at a teenage drinking party Sept. 8.

Joseph Resetarits played this season for the Homer Mariners football team, but as of Thursday was removed from the team, said Homer High School Principal Allan Gee. Gee and Coach Cam Wyatt agreed to remove him, Gee said

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
75. Perhaps you can come up with a sex crime against member of a chess group
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:57 AM
Jan 2013

Because the sex crimes committed by male athletes and their coaches are all over the news.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
87. Look. There is no need to conflate nerds with "deranged" loners.
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:17 PM
Jan 2013

I know plenty of nerds and none of them are mass murderers. Nerd and deranged are not synonymous.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
27. Now, Now! That's awfully close to "football players just being football players"
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:20 PM
Jan 2013

(which nevertheless is exactly the way the case was handled by every level of authority in the community, but believe me you don't want football fans coming down on you for impugning their favorite sport/religious/male-bonding ceremony. But if you do decide to take that chance, my advice is at least don't let yourself get drunk in their presence. They won't be held responsible for things they have to do to you because they can and they feel like it, but not in any gay way or anything like that.)

lindysalsagal

(20,440 posts)
73. Or ping-pong, chorus, art club, tennis....
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:47 AM
Jan 2013

There's definitely something about football that makes this far more common on football teams than in other identified groups.

I think we need to make all high school football flag football, and remove the violence and aggression, not to mention the injuries, from the game. Baseball and soccer don't need all that hostility, but they also don't garner the huge money that pro and college football enjoys, either.

America is still at war, with something, it seems.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
16. And Homer is the hippie-dippie, "progressive" capital of Alaska!
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 06:51 PM
Jan 2013

Think of maybe a small town on the Oregon coast.

I was expecting it to be Wasilla.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
49. This is true,
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:03 PM
Jan 2013

but, like most places, there are all kinds. There is also a rougher element down there in the fishing community.

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
24. For the love of pizza...
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:18 PM
Jan 2013

Do we need to have conversations with all young adults regarding the insertion of anything in anyone's mouth, ears, eye sockets, nose, vagina or rectum without the person's explicit consent? Am I such an old fogey or brainiac that I figured that one out on my own? I got plenty drunk as a kid. I never once saw anyone passed out drunk at a party and thought of sticking a beer bottle or anything else into one of their orifices. What the fuck is wrong with people?

 

No Compromise

(373 posts)
32. yes, where are they getting this from?
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:35 PM
Jan 2013

They were born into this fucked up society, but the adults are responsible for allowing it to degrade this far. How did we come to this?

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
42. Ignorance, irresponsibility and procrastination
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:19 PM
Jan 2013

...yeah them babies don't pop out little monsters. They are shaped into these ghastly beings by their environment: at home and away from home. It's our sick broken down gun-toting MIC Empirical run away vulture capitalistic society. Add in ignorance, irresponsibility and procrastination and there you are: USA in the 21st century. A pornographic social science fiction thriller come true. How can we back up and clean all this up? I don't know where to start, there's so much that is fucked up! The next winger who tells me this is the greatest country in the world is going to be slapped, no warning...they won't even see it coming. (figuratively, of course.)

 

No Compromise

(373 posts)
62. it took a month to get an arrest on this, one month after video evidence was posted on youtube
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 10:19 PM
Jan 2013

After this incident, during that month before the arrest, students put up a sign in support of him and the upcoming football game and how the perp 'brings the pain'. They thought it was funny and since the adults in the community looked the other way, they thought there was nothing wrong with what they did. This is a community problem.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
37. That's a very good question.
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:49 PM
Jan 2013

Where is this violence coming from? And where are they learning about water sports at age 15? Unsupervised internet access and Kim Kardashian's sex tape?

My friends and I were drunk and stupid and horny just like many other teens, but never violent.

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
61. Amen
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 10:15 PM
Jan 2013

I never thought I'd look back on the 1970s and think it was the "Awesome Age of Innocence." My father was raised by a pair of abusive alcoholics and he was a jock mainly to escape his nightmarish home life. Granny O'Drunkenstein was a force of nature but none of her kids turned out to be as evil as she was.

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
28. Unfortunately, it isn't national news when it happens
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:22 PM
Jan 2013

to 14 year old girls, either.

That poor boy. I hope he gets the help he needs and sees justice, too.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
29. I don't care so much about whether this makes national news or not...
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:25 PM
Jan 2013

I care about increasing the rate of prosecution. 25% prosecution rate for such a terrible crime? I wonder what the rate is for possession of weed? Seriously we need some DAs that will start campaigning on being tough on rape.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
68. Bail depends on a lot of factors, and should not be punitive
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:06 AM
Jan 2013

Bail is an additional inducement to make sure the accused goes to court; if there's little chance he's going to flee, there doesn't need to be higher bail.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
38. The rape problem in this country....
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:55 PM
Jan 2013

...looks like it's catching up to the gun problem. This boil (society) looks like it's getting ready to burst. This is what happens when we keep sweeping the dirty stuff under the rug to come back and clean up another day. And another day never comes. We have got to face our monsters and deal with them. They aren't just going to go away and never return. The monsters are procreating, folks.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
47. This was pretty big news up here,
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:52 PM
Jan 2013

but like the grounded Shell drilling platform, Alaska news takes a while to make it out of the state. Homer is where my brother lives (and his young teenage kids were very upset about it). Homer is a liberal enclave in this sea of red, so the news was doubly shocking.

 

No Compromise

(373 posts)
60. okay, sorry this was from a comment on huffington, thought it was accurate
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 10:15 PM
Jan 2013

in many rural towns, the idea that this was a guy assaulted by another guy, a football player even ....well they just don't want to talk about it at all, pushed it under the rug.

But from reading this thread, I now see that is the case for most incidents of rape. We need to make that unacceptable.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
53. Now, I feel like an ass for giving that DU'r
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:09 PM
Jan 2013

a hard time for saying this sort of sexual assault happens to males almost as frequently as it does for females.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
54. K & R
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:11 PM
Jan 2013

How many kids are going to be assaulted in this manner before we admit our high school football programs are more important in many communities than our kids' safety?

Win the game with rapists and criminals? Yep. Send the rapists out there on the field, those glorious wonderful young men who live out our old man fantasies on the field.

Who cares what kind of humans they are? As long as they can play ball!

Another case where adults taught the kids that being a rapist is great, as long as you can score.

" Football! Oooh-ahhh! Rape on boys!" That's the word those glorious Resetarits boys heard: "Rape on, Sons! Rape on, Anthony and Joseph! Homer, Alaska cares not a whit whom you violate, degrade and rape. Keep raping Anthony and Joseph! The team LURVES us some rapists!"

GO HOMER ALASKA: RAPING OUR WAY TO CHAMPIONS!





caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
55. In the '70s
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:13 PM
Jan 2013

. . . at least in my hometown, you never wanted to pass out at a party because exactly this sort of thing would happen to you. I remember when I first heard of it happening, I was shocked. (No, I never personally saw it, but I heard about it and so lesser pranks at the expense of passed out partiers. Nothing felonious.) Then everyone pretended it was cool.

And if you talk about frat houses on any campus, you never want to pass out at a party there, yes, because those guys would do exactly this.

Probably the reason they're going easy on these teens is that every other adult in that town did was at a party where this was done, and they probably participated.

And it has to stop. I hate to say, and somebody has to be first. We can't just say, "We've always done it like that," forever.
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
58. This is sick. What the f**k is wrong w/ football players?!
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:31 PM
Jan 2013

The should suffer the full penalties of the law. There is no excuse for this. The poor little boy.


I swear, Jock Culture should be outlawed. It's criminal. They make me sick.

 
63. WTF is going on in this country? Oh my god
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 10:33 PM
Jan 2013

The Sandy Hook shootings, and now this? Hope that poor kid recovers from his trauma, and may those rapist scum meet harsh justice.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
77. This was a heinous crime. The victim will be marred for life. The perpetrators are suffering
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 12:06 PM
Jan 2013

from some serious psychiatric disorders that need to be treating in a penal hospital. The fact that the community allowed the "perps" to continue their lives with little or no repercussions is equally disturbing.

 

No Compromise

(373 posts)
78. community allowed the "perps" to continue their lives with little or no repercussions
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:29 PM
Jan 2013

+1000
yes, very disturbing.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
84. There might be some valuable corelationship between the nature of violent sports and social
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 08:15 PM
Jan 2013

domination. Not sure though.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
88. penn state. rape of only boys. made the news. it depends more where the outcry is coming from
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:20 PM
Jan 2013

pushing media to report it than gender.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
90. Without Anonymous...
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 02:24 PM
Jan 2013

Who knows if the other case would have become national. At least that is the way I have read it. Tragic all of the way around.

TrogL

(32,818 posts)
91. This can cause anal tearing and permanent damage
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 03:18 PM
Jan 2013

Unlikely they were using lube or the boy had prepared himself to accept anything that big or hard.

Also a tremendous risk of it shattering.

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