General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFootball players Caught on Video Raping a Drunken Teenage Boy with a Beer Bottle
This is a recent incident that happened in a small town in Alaska, and as someone said in a comment, if this happened to a girl it would be national news. Recent events have proven this to be the case, but there is still time to bring national attention to this story as the trial has not happened.
After this event was posted on youtube, evidence was there for all to see, the video was taken down and adults and police in the community continued to carry on as if nothing happened.
The star football player was allowed to continue playing, he was needed for the championship game after all, and the victim was forced to leave town out of embarrassment.
When public pressure finally forced arrests of the brothers, the were let out on a pittance for bail, and allowed to take high paying jobs and go on about their lives.
Anthony Resetarits, Joseph Resetarits Charged In Beer Bottle Sodomy Of Juvenile
A high school football player and his brother have been arrested by authorities in Alaska for allegedly raping a drunken teenage boy with a beer bottle at a raucous underage drinking party.
"At some point after had been written on and drawn on, the individuals surrounding him on the couch began to yell out ideas about what should happen next," Stone said. "While it's still unknown who made the suggestions, it was reported that someone suggested sticking a carrot in anus, and then someone suggested sticking a beer bottle inside of anus."
After someone removed the victims' pants and underwear, Anthony Resetarits allegedly took a 12 oz. Alaskan White beer bottle and inserted the full length of the neck of the bottle into the victim's anus. At least one juvenile male witnessed the assault, which was also captured on a camera.
"Several other juveniles stated they didn't see who initially had inserted the bottle but had seen ... Anthony Resetarits "tapping" and "pushing" on the bottle ... Another female juvenile stated she observed Resetarits "wind up" and hit the bottle, which caused it to go deeper into anus," Stone wrote in his report.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/anthony-joseph-resetarits-beer-bottle-sodomy_n_1955080.html
gollygee
(22,336 posts)This one case made the news because of the videos about it.
It's horrible, and I hope this rape victim gets justice, as I hope for all rape victims. Sadly, I see the charge was reduced? That's horrible.
FightForMichigan
(232 posts)I volunteer as an advocate for survivors of sexual assault, which means I often go to the hospital to be with them during the sexual assault examination. I can tell you that out of my 100 or so trips to the hospital, not a single one has ever been mentioned in national, much less local, media.
During much of my time as an advocate, I was also a reporter at our local paper. Often, after a weekend when I volunteered, I would make a round of calls to local police departments to ask if any major crimes had happened over the weekend. Not once was I ever told of a rape, even when I had been in the hospital with a woman who had been raped a day or two before.
Police aren't reporting it to the media, so the media aren't reporting it to the people. It's a massive cover-up, essentially. It's treated like it doesn't exist at all, unless it is a "good rape" - the kind where the victim is a senior citizen, Sunday school teacher or very young child who can't be characterized as having "asked for it."
The whole situation is depressing, but it really doesn't have much to do with whether the victim was male or female.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)And rape is lurid to them, thus it shoudl sell - scary content being the main theme in US media.
Perhaps you should check the blotter. I fear you'll learn that the arrestees are not being charged.
FightForMichigan
(232 posts)In fact, at the five papers I've worked at, actually physically checking the log was done at exactly one of them. The rest were done by phone calls. And don't look at that to change as long as newspapers keep slashing reporting staff. The last one I worked at cut its reporting staff by 50 percent over eight years, and I was one of the last ones to be laid off.
And I know most are not charged. Hell, most are never even arrested. Even more are never even reported.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)sheriff's office and local PD's. And yes, it's horrifying how many women I know who have been raped (for osome reason people are compelled to tell me their deepdark stuff...) and also the number of my young daughter's friends (she's in a teenrecovery 12-step program, so most of these girls, when they were using, hung around with pretty dicey people) who have had horrifying abuse perp'd by boyfriends, male "friends", classmates, dealers, and heartbreakingly in a whole OTHER dimension, their own family/stepfamily members...
From kindergarden on, when boys picks on girls, often by grossly violating their boundaries, we tell our daughters that it means the boy LIKES them. How effed up is THAT?
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Its a well known fact for those of us who work closely with rape crisis centers that rape is under-reported and under-represented in the news.
And I 110% agree, it has nothing to do with gender.
Ms. Toad
(33,915 posts)One case hit the news. A particularly brutal one, in which the woman almost died from knife wounds. And she was white. And she had money.
tblue37
(64,979 posts)Remember that little 11-year-old girl in Texas who was blamed by the community for enticing the adult men and adolescent boys who gang raped her?
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)...because she is disabled.
The fucker who raped her still got off!
polly7
(20,582 posts)I missed it hadn't gone to trial yet, hopefully they'll all get some serious time to understand the harm they've done.
No Compromise
(373 posts)nt
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)That's just fucked up.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,043 posts)Sick fucks
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)BainsBane
(53,001 posts)very few make national news. Your assertion that such rapes against women automatically make national news is false, since only a handful of rapes are picked up by the national press. That in no way diminishes the atrocity of this crime. What a horrific experience for this boy to endure. Sadly, the experience of the boy's rapist mirrors that of those who rape women and girls--only 25% of reported rapes are prosecuted and an even smaller percentage of rapists face jail time. The tolerance of sexual assault in this nation is a profound moral failing and a travesty of our justice system.
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)Without Anonymous, this would've just gone away quietly.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... is that the detectives often try to talk the victims out of pressing charges. I know about this, as it happened to me. The detective did his best to get me to not press charges. Said the defense lawyer would rake me thru the mud on the stand, etc., etc., etc. Make my life miserable. I was a grown married woman at that time, and I knew the defense lawyer would do no such thing, because I was clean as the riven snow. And that is exactly what happened. They wanted a plea bargain, and I said no, that I wanted it to go to trial. I was unafraid of the judicial system or the defense lawyer. The detective and I had done everything right. The evidence was iron clad. The asshole rapist was pleading "consensual", which was a bold-faced lie. I had never been with ANYONE beside my husband, thank you, and I don't lie. Ever. But the rapist kept saying consensual. Right up to the day that a trial date was to be set, he claimed innocent. And finally, on that day, he admitted to everything. The detective and DA said he wouldn't get anymore time if I went on with the trial, so I gave in when they said he was going to serve 8-10 in maximum, no parole. So, it did not go to trial, but justice was done nonetheless.
You have no idea how it felt when the detective tried to talk me out of going to trial. It was like being raped all over again. Most women cave in to the pressure, I think. Some of them are pressured by their hubbies/families to not do it, as it will (somehow) bring disgrace on the THEM if it goes to trial. That would be like being raped again too. But thank God that isn't how it was for me. It's a violent assault. Rape is rape is rape. No matter if it's a child, male or female or grown adult.
I came through it all in flying colors. I had a minimum of counseling and I've never looked back. The TRUTH really can set one free. I so hope that justice can be done for the young boy in this instance and that he will be provided the intensive counseling he's going to need for many years to come. The sad thing is that even if justice is done, the victim sometimes never recovers. That horrible moment in time haunts them for the rest of their days.
Please, everybody...continue on with the conversation. Do NOT stop and give me a second thought. I made it. This young boy needs all of our thoughts and prayers.
Good for you for standing up to them, but you should never have been put in that situation.
In Brazil they have police stations staffed by women for crimes against women, like sexual assault and domestic violence. Given that the Brazilian police have a long history of operating outside the law, the women's police sometimes do so as well. They have groups called bate-homens, female police officers who go beat the crap out of men who refuse to stop harming women.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... from India? A man (politician) I think had raped his wife or a woman, and the women in the community drug him out of his house and tore his clothes off and beat the tar out of him and then turned him over to police. I'm not sure of the whole story as I was listening to something on online radio. The women over there are mad as hell and aren't taking it anymore since the girl that got raped and killed on the bus about a week or so ago. Am I making sense? I'm typing too fast... That thing in Brazil you mention about the female police who rough up the men who assault/rape women? Does it work? Does that actually curtail the violence meted out on anything that moves (male/female/child/animal)? Hey, if they don't have a decent judicial system and little to no justice, I don't see anything wrong with it. They have to do whatever they have to do to survive.
BainsBane
(53,001 posts)But their have been books on the subject. http://www.amazon.com/Violence-City-Women-Police-Batterers/dp/0520252772/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1357367201&sr=8-2&keywords=Brazil+police+women
http://www.amazon.com/Womens-Police-Stations-Violence-Justice/dp/031224021X/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1357367264&sr=8-3&keywords=Brazil+police+women
And even a soap opera: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0287207/
ReRe
(10,597 posts)Will order them online soon and get back to my reading...
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)TYY
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Hope this kid gets justice and the support needed to move forward.
No Compromise
(373 posts)I feel so bad for him and his family
freshwest
(53,661 posts)And I don't see any comments here about gender.
historylovr
(1,557 posts)Such callusness on the part of the rapists and bystanders. Again.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)What other choice do you have when the "justice" system fails so miserably? You have to take matters into your own hands. I can't see just allowing them to get away with it.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)think about it, they just got raped.... and would not like to compound it by having loved ones in jail or dead.
people who don't report cite this frequently as a reason.
guys should do better and try hitting a middle ground between utter disbelief and denial and going Rambo.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)I wouldn't have to correct these people myself if they had received the justice they deserved going through the system. If they had received prison time, I wouldn't be forced to do anything. But you're not going to hurt my kid and get off scott free. That's not how it works.
As much as I would want to handle it myself at first, I'd give the cops and courts the first shot.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)appeal to a large majority of victims, and it does hinder reporting these crimes in the first place.
Good guys can be pretty clueless about how to react to such horrible news. They want to "do" something, but the majority of women would prefer things not escalate to the point where our loved ones also can be harmed.
Just food for thought.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)But that doesn't mean I'd ever let anyone know about it when I did take action.
I understand what you're saying and would handle it appropriately.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)luckily my brother had anticipated this and made me swear I would not. About ten years later, the same brother offered to murder someone on my behalf. I declined.
But, I totally understand the impulse. Been on both sides of that one.
Ms. Toad
(33,915 posts)and if s/he is raped that makes it less likely that s/he will even tell you about it. It isn't about how you actually handle the violent retribution - it is that s/he knows that it is what you would do and may not be able to life with that (and the only way to prevent it is for him/her to handle the rape without you knowing about it). That means less support for your loved one, and more chance the rapist will continue to rape others.
As a survivor - and a peer advocate for 10 years - your loved one needs you to put him/her first.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)What good would that do your kid?
I think most parents feel exactly as you do. I know I do, but it would make matters far worse on our kids if we ended up being criminals and paying the price. Chances are that our kids would never be able to forgive themselves.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)They'd be "missing". And, damn, wouldn't it be a shame if they never turned up again.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)+1.
No Compromise
(373 posts)The perp stated in court he thought he should be let off because he is a good member of society and wants to be a coach himself in the future.
No Compromise
(373 posts)Sept 8 --Anthony Resetarits, 20, and Joseph Resetarits, 18, sexually assaulted an extremely drunk boy at a teenage drinking party, evidence posted on youtube for all to see.
Given overwhelming evidence via videotape on the night of the rape, It took a month for the police or football coaches to take action...
Oct 04, 2012 A Homer High School football player and his older brother were arrested Thursday on one count each of second-degree assault, a felony. In charging documents, Alaska State Troopers allege that two brothers, Anthony Resetarits, 20, and Joseph Resetarits, 18, sexually assaulted an extremely drunk boy at a teenage drinking party Sept. 8.
Joseph Resetarits played this season for the Homer Mariners football team, but as of Thursday was removed from the team, said Homer High School Principal Allan Gee. Gee and Coach Cam Wyatt agreed to remove him, Gee said
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)Male athletes: Baaaaaaaaaad.
Chess players: Goooooooood.
JI7
(89,173 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Because the sex crimes committed by male athletes and their coaches are all over the news.
Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)But hey, let's not paint with a broad brush, shall we?
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)I know plenty of nerds and none of them are mass murderers. Nerd and deranged are not synonymous.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)LOL!
kenny blankenship
(15,689 posts)(which nevertheless is exactly the way the case was handled by every level of authority in the community, but believe me you don't want football fans coming down on you for impugning their favorite sport/religious/male-bonding ceremony. But if you do decide to take that chance, my advice is at least don't let yourself get drunk in their presence. They won't be held responsible for things they have to do to you because they can and they feel like it, but not in any gay way or anything like that.)
lindysalsagal
(20,440 posts)There's definitely something about football that makes this far more common on football teams than in other identified groups.
I think we need to make all high school football flag football, and remove the violence and aggression, not to mention the injuries, from the game. Baseball and soccer don't need all that hostility, but they also don't garner the huge money that pro and college football enjoys, either.
America is still at war, with something, it seems.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Think of maybe a small town on the Oregon coast.
I was expecting it to be Wasilla.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)but, like most places, there are all kinds. There is also a rougher element down there in the fishing community.
No Compromise
(373 posts)these people don't sound like hippies to me...
TheOther95Percent
(1,035 posts)Do we need to have conversations with all young adults regarding the insertion of anything in anyone's mouth, ears, eye sockets, nose, vagina or rectum without the person's explicit consent? Am I such an old fogey or brainiac that I figured that one out on my own? I got plenty drunk as a kid. I never once saw anyone passed out drunk at a party and thought of sticking a beer bottle or anything else into one of their orifices. What the fuck is wrong with people?
No Compromise
(373 posts)They were born into this fucked up society, but the adults are responsible for allowing it to degrade this far. How did we come to this?
ReRe
(10,597 posts)...yeah them babies don't pop out little monsters. They are shaped into these ghastly beings by their environment: at home and away from home. It's our sick broken down gun-toting MIC Empirical run away vulture capitalistic society. Add in ignorance, irresponsibility and procrastination and there you are: USA in the 21st century. A pornographic social science fiction thriller come true. How can we back up and clean all this up? I don't know where to start, there's so much that is fucked up! The next winger who tells me this is the greatest country in the world is going to be slapped, no warning...they won't even see it coming. (figuratively, of course.)
No Compromise
(373 posts)After this incident, during that month before the arrest, students put up a sign in support of him and the upcoming football game and how the perp 'brings the pain'. They thought it was funny and since the adults in the community looked the other way, they thought there was nothing wrong with what they did. This is a community problem.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Where is this violence coming from? And where are they learning about water sports at age 15? Unsupervised internet access and Kim Kardashian's sex tape?
My friends and I were drunk and stupid and horny just like many other teens, but never violent.
TheOther95Percent
(1,035 posts)I never thought I'd look back on the 1970s and think it was the "Awesome Age of Innocence." My father was raised by a pair of abusive alcoholics and he was a jock mainly to escape his nightmarish home life. Granny O'Drunkenstein was a force of nature but none of her kids turned out to be as evil as she was.
Ilsa
(61,675 posts)to 14 year old girls, either.
That poor boy. I hope he gets the help he needs and sees justice, too.
white_wolf
(6,238 posts)I care about increasing the rate of prosecution. 25% prosecution rate for such a terrible crime? I wonder what the rate is for possession of weed? Seriously we need some DAs that will start campaigning on being tough on rape.
No Compromise
(373 posts)They got out on bail and probably made more than that back in a week commercial fishing.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Bail is an additional inducement to make sure the accused goes to court; if there's little chance he's going to flee, there doesn't need to be higher bail.
No Compromise
(373 posts)I doubt 5,000 means anything to them
No Compromise
(373 posts)Homer teens investigated for severe misconduct
http://homertribune.com/2012/10/homer-teens-investigated-for-%E2%80%98severe-misconduct%E2%80%99/
ReRe
(10,597 posts)...looks like it's catching up to the gun problem. This boil (society) looks like it's getting ready to burst. This is what happens when we keep sweeping the dirty stuff under the rug to come back and clean up another day. And another day never comes. We have got to face our monsters and deal with them. They aren't just going to go away and never return. The monsters are procreating, folks.
Initech
(99,912 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)but like the grounded Shell drilling platform, Alaska news takes a while to make it out of the state. Homer is where my brother lives (and his young teenage kids were very upset about it). Homer is a liberal enclave in this sea of red, so the news was doubly shocking.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)K&R for exposure.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)yardwork
(61,408 posts)No Compromise
(373 posts)in many rural towns, the idea that this was a guy assaulted by another guy, a football player even ....well they just don't want to talk about it at all, pushed it under the rug.
But from reading this thread, I now see that is the case for most incidents of rape. We need to make that unacceptable.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)Sick.
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)WTF is wrong with kids these days?
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)a hard time for saying this sort of sexual assault happens to males almost as frequently as it does for females.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)yardwork
(61,408 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)How many kids are going to be assaulted in this manner before we admit our high school football programs are more important in many communities than our kids' safety?
Win the game with rapists and criminals? Yep. Send the rapists out there on the field, those glorious wonderful young men who live out our old man fantasies on the field.
Who cares what kind of humans they are? As long as they can play ball!
Another case where adults taught the kids that being a rapist is great, as long as you can score.
" Football! Oooh-ahhh! Rape on boys!" That's the word those glorious Resetarits boys heard: "Rape on, Sons! Rape on, Anthony and Joseph! Homer, Alaska cares not a whit whom you violate, degrade and rape. Keep raping Anthony and Joseph! The team LURVES us some rapists!"
GO HOMER ALASKA: RAPING OUR WAY TO CHAMPIONS!
caseymoz
(5,763 posts). . . at least in my hometown, you never wanted to pass out at a party because exactly this sort of thing would happen to you. I remember when I first heard of it happening, I was shocked. (No, I never personally saw it, but I heard about it and so lesser pranks at the expense of passed out partiers. Nothing felonious.) Then everyone pretended it was cool.
And if you talk about frat houses on any campus, you never want to pass out at a party there, yes, because those guys would do exactly this.
Probably the reason they're going easy on these teens is that every other adult in that town did was at a party where this was done, and they probably participated.
And it has to stop. I hate to say, and somebody has to be first. We can't just say, "We've always done it like that," forever.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)The should suffer the full penalties of the law. There is no excuse for this. The poor little boy.
I swear, Jock Culture should be outlawed. It's criminal. They make me sick.
billbailey19448jj
(31 posts)The Sandy Hook shootings, and now this? Hope that poor kid recovers from his trauma, and may those rapist scum meet harsh justice.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)from some serious psychiatric disorders that need to be treating in a penal hospital. The fact that the community allowed the "perps" to continue their lives with little or no repercussions is equally disturbing.
No Compromise
(373 posts)+1000
yes, very disturbing.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)domination. Not sure though.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)pushing media to report it than gender.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Who knows if the other case would have become national. At least that is the way I have read it. Tragic all of the way around.
TrogL
(32,818 posts)Unlikely they were using lube or the boy had prepared himself to accept anything that big or hard.
Also a tremendous risk of it shattering.