Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:16 PM
Ichingcarpenter (27,804 posts)
Cornell University Study- Keystone Pipeline will cost jobs
Cornell GLI’s new report, Pipe Dreams? Jobs Gained, Jobs Lost by the Construction of Keystone XL (pdf) examines the job impacts of TransCanada Corportation's Keystone XL Pipeline, the proposed pipeline that would transport tar sands oil almost 2,000 miles from Alberta, Canada to the Gulf of Mexico in Texas. The report reviews claims made by TransCanada and the American Petroleum Institute that the project will create 20,000 construction and manufacturing and 119,000 (direct, indirect and induced) jobs.
The report concludes that the job estimates put forward by TransCanada are unsubstantiated and the project will not only create fewer jobs than industry states, but that the project could actually kill more jobs than it creates. Main findings include: The project budget that has a direct impact on U.S. employment is between $3 and $4 billion or about half of what industry claims. 50% or more of the steel pipe, the main material input used for Keystone XL, will be manufactured outside of the U.S. Jobs will be temporary and between 85-90% of the people hired to do the work will be non-local or from out of state. Job losses would be caused by additional fuel costs in the Midwest, pipeline spills, pollution and the rising costs of climate change. Even one year of fuel price increases as a result of Keystone XL could cancel out some or all of the jobs created by the project. http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/globallaborinstitute/research/Keystonexl.html
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10 replies, 1408 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Ichingcarpenter | Jan 2012 | OP | |
| AtomicKitten | Jan 2012 | #1 | |
| BlueToTheBone | Jan 2012 | #2 | |
| tabatha | Jan 2012 | #3 | |
| KansDem | Jan 2012 | #4 | |
| onethatcares | Jan 2012 | #6 | |
| Bonhomme Richard | Jan 2012 | #5 | |
| Ian David | Jan 2012 | #7 | |
| Uncle Joe | Jan 2012 | #8 | |
| Cali_Democrat | Jan 2012 | #9 | |
| Scuba | Jan 2012 | #10 |
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:17 PM
AtomicKitten (39,586 posts)
1. This project needs a stake through the heart.
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:22 PM
BlueToTheBone (2,349 posts)
2. Kick
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:kick:
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:23 PM
tabatha (18,795 posts)
3. I hope Obama has that info for the address tonight.
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:24 PM
KansDem (24,343 posts)
4. This fact should be stated repeatedly in the media
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The Perryman study, which estimates around 119,000 (direct, indirect and induced) jobs is a poorly documented study commissioned by TransCanada.
24 hours a day, seven days a week on every news outlet... |
Response to KansDem (Reply #4)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:41 PM
onethatcares (6,637 posts)
6. well, who are you gonna believe?
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some scientists from Cornell University or the American Petroleum Institute and Trans Canada ? It's not like API and TC would have any kind of stake in this matter, they are only concerned with finding us a cheaper way to fill our tanks with fossil fuels
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:34 PM
Bonhomme Richard (7,827 posts)
5. I listened to an interview on NPR yesterday with a canadian newspaper...
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writer discussing the pipeline. He really tried to come across as "I'm not taking sides" Nd unbiased ( a good PR ploy) but he was as slick as one coached could be. He kept going on about how it was beneficial to both countries. Then a guy calls in stating that the oil was going to be shipped overseas and what benefit did it have for us. The guy completely ignored the question and went on about how we might use the oil (lie) and never mentioned how it would benefit us. What really annoyed me was that the NPR guy never challenged him.
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:49 PM
Ian David (68,437 posts)
7. It depends on how many times it leaks or explodes. Environmental clean-up creates jobs. n/t
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:56 PM
Uncle Joe (24,997 posts)
8. Kicked and recommended.
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Thanks for the thread, Ichingcarpenter.
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:01 PM
Cali_Democrat (14,676 posts)
9. This is impossible...Boner, Cantor and the other Republicans are saying Keystone will create jobs
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I believe Fox news even said Keystone will create jobs.
Surely they wouldn't talk out of their asses and lie about it. |
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 06:17 PM
Scuba (26,773 posts)
10. Yesterday I was listening to NPR's "Talk of the Nation". They had someone from each side...
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... discuss the issue.
That is they had an American pro-pipeline guest and a Canadian pro-pipeline guest. It was disgusting. |

