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Fri Jan 4, 2013, 01:26 PM

18 months ago when I started this job my righty nutjob supervisor was a "proud tea party member".

Right now he is sitting in his office watching Rachel. I lured him in with last night's really cool war story.
He still considers himself conservative, but he is definitely no longer in the "nutjob" category.

This morning I think I convinced him that his semi-automatic rifle really isn't a deterrent which protects him from government tyranny, because a) it hasn't so far (FISA) and b.) the government has much more powerful weapons. (We work for a DoD contractor; we know better than most the capabilities of the hardware the government can bring to bear against a threat.)

Other co-workers are beginning to enjoy my Rush Limbaugh imitation. Whenever somebody brings up some right-wing talking point I mock it in a Rush voice complete with the compulsive shirt-tug.

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Reply 18 months ago when I started this job my righty nutjob supervisor was a "proud tea party member". (Original post)
MindPilot Jan 2013 OP
nenagh Jan 2013 #1
MindPilot Jan 2013 #4
nenagh Jan 2013 #9
TeamPooka Jan 2013 #2
lunatica Jan 2013 #3
MindPilot Jan 2013 #6
MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #7
Erose999 Jan 2013 #8
MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #10
MedicalAdmin Jan 2013 #16
Erose999 Jan 2013 #18
GatorOrange Jan 2013 #19
calimary Jan 2013 #33
GatorOrange Jan 2013 #47
MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #20
DonRedwood Jan 2013 #5
NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #11
Populist_Prole Jan 2013 #36
NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #37
Populist_Prole Jan 2013 #41
MindPilot Jan 2013 #45
loyalkydem Jan 2013 #12
mountain grammy Jan 2013 #13
gateley Jan 2013 #22
mountain grammy Jan 2013 #31
calimary Jan 2013 #34
dorkzilla Jan 2013 #14
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #15
wendylaroux Jan 2013 #17
BlueStreak Jan 2013 #21
lovemydog Jan 2013 #23
BlueStreak Jan 2013 #25
SummerSnow Jan 2013 #24
caledesi Jan 2013 #26
NMDemDist2 Jan 2013 #27
freshwest Jan 2013 #29
MindPilot Jan 2013 #43
The Jungle 1 Jan 2013 #28
indivisibleman Jan 2013 #30
calimary Jan 2013 #35
MindPilot Jan 2013 #42
Rain Mcloud Jan 2013 #32
CrispyQ Jan 2013 #38
lindysalsagal Jan 2013 #39
Gregorian Jan 2013 #40
Wounded Bear Jan 2013 #44
MindPilot Jan 2013 #46

Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 01:32 PM

1. You are a force for good, MindPilot, that's for sure..

Changing points of view, one TeaBag at a time.

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Response to nenagh (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 01:38 PM

4. Thank you. This is a very red environment I work in.

I decided I'm not going to be one of the ones speaking in hushed tones while the place is rife with anti-Obama, Reagan-is-Lord, liberals are sloths living on the dole horseshit.

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Response to MindPilot (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 02:06 PM

9. It takes a special mind to reach into a closed system of thinking, I do believe...

You have the gift...

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 01:33 PM

2. lol K & R

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 01:35 PM

3. The shirt tugging is to get it unstuck from his profusely sweating chest

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Response to lunatica (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 01:40 PM

6. OK, now that was way too much information

Eww...

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Response to lunatica (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 01:46 PM

7. His moobs

are in fact just huge sweat glands.

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Response to MynameisBlarney (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 01:51 PM

8. Maybe he's lactating? I mean it could be a side effect of all those drugs...

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Response to Erose999 (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 02:07 PM

10. Hmmm...

You make a good point.

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Response to MynameisBlarney (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 03:21 PM

16. I think Rush had a guest walk on spot in "the hobbit."

Didn't he?




LeeAnn

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Response to MedicalAdmin (Reply #16)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 03:35 PM

18. He had a big role in Return of the Jedi too.

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Response to Erose999 (Reply #18)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 03:43 PM

19. So THAT was the thing on his posterior....

That got his ChickenHawk self a deferment from serving in Vietnam....

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Response to GatorOrange (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:13 AM

33. Welcome to DU, GatorOrange!

Glad you're here - and you beat me to it. When I saw that, it's the first thing I thought of. The boil on limbaugh's ass. Probably the same size, too...

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Response to calimary (Reply #33)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 05:51 PM

47. Thanks! n/t

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Response to MedicalAdmin (Reply #16)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 03:48 PM

20. *covers eyes*

No spoilers!

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 01:39 PM

5. I worked with a Tea Party guy too

Hard to stomach his politics but all I could do was show him the other side...and have my facts ready if I was gonna debate him.

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 02:43 PM

11. My mom dated a full-on teabagger for a few months back in 2010

(She is a liberal Dem)

Whenever I would visit and he was there, we would inevitable get into an argument because he'd insist on making some political comment no matter what we were talking about. Always got heated and usually we'd end up screaming (no name-calling or anything...just got loud).

Anyway, one night after our argument he told me he still totally disagreed with me but that he respected that I stood up for my beliefs and that I made a good argument.

They weren't together long enough for me to actually do any "converting" but maybe I planted some kind of seed. (Ok, doubt it, but there's a remote possibility.)

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 04:18 AM

36. Yeah really!

What the hell is it about conservatives that cause them to try to weave politics ( their own politics of course ) into every discussion? It's a goddamned epidemic! No matter how casual, or even clinical a conversation is, a con will try to turn a a discussion of door hinges/crabgrass/food/carpet/birch trees/concrete/the good movie you just saw into a heated argument about politics. Granted, back years ago when when I was a center-right young brash idiot, I knew some spouting liberals: but politics never came up unless we were discussing politics.

This unfortunate dynamic has resulted in me becoming noticeably more distant to my 2 best friends, who are becoming more conservative as I become more liberal, and pretty much alienting myself from my father. who used to be a non-nutjob conservative and has now turned into a raging reactionary.

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Response to Populist_Prole (Reply #36)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 04:33 AM

37. I have no idea...

I mean if the discussion is already somewhat relevant to a current political issue then that's one thing. But the cons I know -- actually, it's more often the libertarian types -- will find any reason to inject politics. Many times it's not a direct statement; usually they'll make some sort of snide side remark. I admit I am a sucker and I have to respond when someone does that.

Another thing I can't stand is this "I'm not a Republican, I'm an independent" bullshit. Yeah, you're an "independent" who has voted for the Republican in every election from dogcatcher to president for 30 years. And if you bring up Bush's disastrous presidency, so many of them "never liked Bush" (even though they voted for him twice).

There are two Republicans/conservatives in my family, both uncles. One is a conservative but is also a legitimate independent and will give credit or call bullshit no matter what party. The other is a Republican but because everyone else in the family is a liberal Democrat, he kind of plays it up just to get a rise out of us (he likes telling me how he thinks Fox News and Rush are far too liberal for his tastes).

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #37)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 01:24 PM

41. It could be the sour grapes thing

They deep down realize their own view is increasingly out of sync as times change, that is, the tide is against them and so it's unlikely that they'll be able convince you that their worldview. Their simply circling the wagons, or sitting with their arms folded and a cross look on their face as some form of protest. "I can't convince you, so then you'll never convince me!" is the dynamic.

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Response to Populist_Prole (Reply #36)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:52 PM

45. True dat...

The conservatives are also have to advertise. They are the ones with the caricatures and cartoons up on the cube walls and right-wing books prominently displayed on the shelf. Liberals don't do that (save for the occasional Prius that is more bumpersticker than car)

And are there any liberal forums that exist primarily to mock any particular conservative forum? Not that I've ever seen. Conservative humor is largely nonexistent, yes, there conservative comics, but they are more mean than funny. Most conservative documentaries are flops. All that adds up to not much. Very little there in the there locker.

That really sucks that politics have come between you and your dad. I'm sorry to hear that. It is a shame that what should be a relatively smooth process of running the country has become so toxic that it is literally splitting up families.

That is something I would like to see PBO mention in the SOTU. This extremist obstructionist authoritarian infighting and backbiting shit has to stop. It is the cancer that is sucking the life from the country and her people.

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 02:44 PM

12. On the way to the greatest page

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 02:47 PM

13. Rachel is one of the best talkers to get anyone's attention.

Her stories are terrific. The one last night about the German POW who escaped after the war to stay in America was so good, and how she leads it into what's happening today is just beautiful. We sat here captivated by the tale and then, like Rachel, wondered how America could keep POW's after the war was over.
Once you start listening to Rachel Maddow, it's hard to stop.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 04:04 PM

22. Agree. Regardless of what she's presenting, she gives us a mini-history lesson of

how we got to this point. I think if we could get people to actually LISTEN to her, it would start the wheels turning.

I saw it when I was living with my brother. He's always been a Dem, but pretty uninterested. He'd come in while I was watching Rachel and get sucked in . Next thing I know, I'm getting political texts and links from him! She'd helped him UNDERSTAND the WHY and the HOW.

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Response to gateley (Reply #22)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:54 PM

31. exactly the same with my husband. If she's talking, he's listening.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:18 AM

34. She's one of the best dots-connectors in the business.

She really follows the thread as it slowly unravels, she keeps track, and she remembers history.

The best part of them all is that she connects the dots, PERIOD. That SOMEBODY is doing it. That somebody intelligent is doing it. Somebody with perspective and understanding of cause-and-effect is doing it. Somebody who bothers to look beyond the talking points, and then pick them apart, source them out to their origination - and to who originated them.

It's always hugely educational and illuminating to watch the Maddow Show. You always come away a little bit smarter.

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 02:55 PM

14. The fog is starting to lift from my tea bagging mother, too.

She's conceded a lot of liberal points in our last few conversations. She still has some ridiculously half-assed party-line opinions, but I can see the tide turning. I'm having dinner with my stepdad tonight, who spent yesterday with Bobby Jindal--if he's softening, then I think we'll soon be seeing a trend.

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 02:56 PM

15. "...complete with the compulsive shirt-tug."

Man, you nailed it!

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 03:23 PM

17. Lol,I love it

could you put a video up of your imitation? I'd love to see it.

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 03:55 PM

21. You must put your "Rush" show on Youtube

But the problem is that it is really hard to satirize these whack jobs on the right. Satire requires a certain exaggeration for effect, and it is very difficult to come up with any thought that is more outrageous than what they say every day.

Given that, maybe it would be funny if somebody who looks like a straight-up network anchor with the classical "newsman voice" were to deliver the actual Limbaugh script in straight face, not to imitate Limbaugh, but to hear how obscene his words sound if they come out of a normal human being.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #21)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 04:06 PM

23. Stephen Colbert

does well at this. Also the fake anchors on ONN (the onion web site parody, Onion News Network).

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Response to lovemydog (Reply #23)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 04:15 PM

25. Definitely. But I'd love to hear somebody like that read the Limbaugh transcript

verbatim, but in classical "serious network news anchor" style.

Remember when Tina Faye read the transcript from the Sarah Palin interview verbatim? She didn't change a word, and they just made it hilarious.

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 04:11 PM

24. You are the official teabag intervention specialist

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 04:22 PM

26. Good one! nt

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:15 PM

27. my hubby asks his co-workers who keep guns 'against a tyrannical government'

"Wonder if you can hear the drone before it launches?"

They usually get a thoughtful look and walk away

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Response to NMDemDist2 (Reply #27)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:37 PM

29. Excellent point there!

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Response to NMDemDist2 (Reply #27)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:06 PM

43. I am so stealing that! n/t

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:12 PM

28. sweet

Nice work you are putting you job on the line and winning the battle.
I would love to see you rush act.

I have a few folks at work that understand my position. But many are not happy about where I stand. So care must be taken.

What is love to point out is socialist corporate welfare. I is amazing how fast you can get support when ya present the numbers.

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:45 PM

30. can you teach us how to speak Limbaugh?

It would be fun to learn how to do.

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Response to indivisibleman (Reply #30)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:21 AM

35. Welcome to DU, indivisibleman, and The Jungle 1!

Glad to have both of you with us! All you have to do, really, is pull your chin down and inward, hard, against your neck, stick your stomach way out, and puff: "I hope he FAILS!"

It's good to see him being taken as a laughing stock. That's what he deserves.

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Response to indivisibleman (Reply #30)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:03 PM

42. It's not hard, just lower your voice and pretend you have a mouthful of marbles

Then spout the most insane right-wing shit you can think of.

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:20 PM

32. Keep on peeing in the Kewl-Aid!

 

Of course if the Teahdists did try to incite a civil war,they would not go themselves,no,no.
They are more important than that and always have been.
They would try to get our kids all angried up agin the gubmint so's they'd go fight and die in the hallowed name of General Lee.
You might remember the General Lee was the car that Bo and Luke Duke drove while stickin it to Boss Hogg.
Hats off to you,pardner!

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:39 AM

38. I like this part the best:

"...his semi-automatic rifle really isn't a deterrent which protects him from government tyranny, because a) it hasn't so far (FISA) ..."

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:58 AM

39. I wouldn't have tried any of that, and I'm a school teacher!

It sounds like you're in pretty good company, there. He's listening to you. Wow.

The so-called tea party was a cnn/Koch invention and it's failed. Those people weren't actually invested or activated. They'll keep voting republican, but they're not increasing their numbers, so, it's the same marginalized "moral majority" of the 80;s and 90's.

They'll never really go away, and they'll never really get ahold of any significant power again, thanks to G W Shrub.

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 01:18 PM

40. I've always said, this is the ultimate point in the purpose of DU.

Changing people by educating them.

Yeah, a couple of old guys with 45's up against one minigun.

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Response to MindPilot (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:13 PM

44. I actually have no problem with conservatives....

It's just that the modern version of same has spun so far off the rails of rationality, that I can't stand most of them now a days. Haven't voted for an R for Pres since Nixon; haven't voted R down ticket since probably the early 90's. Don't really plan on it, either. In my mind, I've had to take a very Bush-like position of "fer us or agin us" when thinking about supporting anybody from that side.

Back in the 60's and into the 70's, there were plenty of conservatives that would work across the aisle to actually solve problems. The modern breed has sold out so much to the corporate mind set that they think of the government as competition for their revenue streams. 'Solving problems" equates to removing business opportunities. Take your boss, who as you said works for a government contractor. I'd bet he has been wailing for years about the evils of "big government" and probably had a total lack of any sense of irony in that position.

Nice to see your boss as an example of a Con coming to some sense of reality.

Good job.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #44)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 03:21 PM

46. It is usually how a conversation opens.

As an example:

"the libtards are taxing and spending..."

"Wait. Stop. Before you say any more I just want to establish that when we talk about "taxing & spending" it is with the understanding and acknowledgement that every dime in our paychecks once belonged to a taxpayer."

ETA: I'm all about breaking down the stereotype at work. After there has been requisite recitation of the FOX talking points, I will interject something like "I'm a liberal, and I have a job, own a gun, I served, and clearly I support the military and I don't belong to a union."

My favorite is when they comment about how Obama is paying people to not work or the generous rewards granted to the lazy. I ask "WHY are you still working?! Are you so dedicated to getting up at five to spend the day building the next generation of cool toys to break shit and kill people that you would pass up a life of leisure?"

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