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Thu Jan 3, 2013, 02:51 PM

Wellington Limits Number Of Cats For Owners

KAKE:

The start of a new year always brings the start of new laws on the books. One that’s catching not only our attention, but also national attention on Good Morning America, happens to involve a new ordinance in Wellington limiting the number of cats you can own to four.

You might not notice the problem of stray cats just driving down the street, whether in Wellington or any other Kansas community, but those who deal with it say it’s there.

"We were picking up, compared to years past, a couple hundred cats per year,” said Wellington Police Chief Tracy Heath. “We're hoping that this new ordinance may lower that number."

This year alone through November, he says 231 cats were picked up in Wellington. So the city came up with changes to its animal ordinance, which includes a section saying “no person or household shall own or harbor more than four cats of more than six months of age or more than one litter of kittens."


You'll have to pry the cat out of my cold, dead hands. Or at least get the cat to let go of the couch cushions...

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Reply Wellington Limits Number Of Cats For Owners (Original post)
brooklynite Jan 2013 OP
Undismayed Jan 2013 #1
brooklynite Jan 2013 #3
LynneSin Jan 2013 #4
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Wait Wut Jan 2013 #11
Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #14
Wait Wut Jan 2013 #19
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Rod Mollise Jan 2013 #26
regjoe Jan 2013 #27
LisaLynne Jan 2013 #49
Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #31
slackmaster Jan 2013 #32
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tech3149 Jan 2013 #56
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dbackjon Jan 2013 #65
devilgrrl Jan 2013 #46
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LynneSin Jan 2013 #2
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Tempest Jan 2013 #9
onenote Jan 2013 #33
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Big Blue Marble Jan 2013 #41
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LWolf Jan 2013 #43
Tempest Jan 2013 #45
LWolf Jan 2013 #48
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HappyMe Jan 2013 #7
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sinkingfeeling Jan 2013 #22
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 02:59 PM

1. Good.

 

We need to regulate cat ownership and cat owners more tightly. Cats can have dramatic effects on our natural environment. Certain bird species are under serious pressure from cats. Who needs more than 1 cat anyway? If you have more than 1 cat , you're either a crazy cat lady or a cat nut.

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Response to Undismayed (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:03 PM

3. Um, I have two...

Cats like having compansionship when we're at work.

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Response to Undismayed (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:03 PM

4. I would not call someone with 2 cats as a cat nut

I know many people have 2 cats - give the cats a playmate while everyone is at school/work.

I know I would never go beyond 2 because at that point I feared being a 'crazy cat lady'.

BTW i'm officially down to just one.

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Response to Undismayed (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:05 PM

5. Cat nut here-have four.

All fixed, immunized, indoors, rescued, & elderly. Dog nut, too, since I have 2 of those.

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Response to Undismayed (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:05 PM

6. I have 6 cats,

am not "crazy" or a "nut." All my cats are rescues, spayed/neutered. I have a feeling your stay here at DU is going to be a short one.

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Response to Undismayed (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:27 PM

11. Okay.

I have three. All indoor cats. You can call me whatever you'd like. However, you seem terribly worried about birds. What do they call people who are obsessed by birds?

Oh, and I have three bird feeders. Four if you count the two hummingbird feeders that I put out in warm weather. I call them cat theaters.

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Response to Wait Wut (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:31 PM

14. you damn crazy nut!

cat's rock!

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:56 PM

19. Sometimes.

But, in all honesty, my cats are the damned crazy nuts. One is paranoid, one is OCD, and the third seems to be a sociopath.

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Response to Undismayed (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:30 PM

13. I have two - rescue cats, if I hadn't taken them in, they would have been euthanized. They r indoors

can't get at the birds.

I'm not crazy. Why does 2 cats make someone crazy but 2 dogs, 2 birds, 2 hamsters = sanity?

why are people who dress their dogs in costumes, paint their nails, bejewel them, carry them in bags, not considered "crazy"?

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Response to Undismayed (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:02 PM

26. Well...

Somebody around here's a nut, anyway...

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Response to Undismayed (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:03 PM

27. I see what you did here

 

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Response to regjoe (Reply #27)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:05 PM

49. Me, too.

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Response to Undismayed (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:10 PM

31. I have 4 cats.

Last edited Thu Jan 3, 2013, 08:44 PM - Edit history (1)

One is 19 years old, one is 9 years old, and other two are 6 months old.

The 19 year old and 9 year old used to play but the old man can't hack it anymore so my daughter and I set to get a new playmate for the 9 year old. The SPCA in San Francisco has a no kill policy and they had so many kittens and cats this year that they were giving them away - shots and "fixed" - in the months of August & September. When my daughter and I went to go get one, we found two brothers who were very attached to each other so we decided to get them both.

They are lovely and all 4 cats are getting along well.

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Response to Undismayed (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:10 PM

32. My two Attack Cats hate you now

 

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Response to Undismayed (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:21 PM

39. I think the way to

lower cats' impact on the environment is to make sure that they all HAVE people. That means that more people need to have more cats, at least until every last cat outside of breeders' catteries are spayed or neutered.

When I moved into my current place, there was a colony of feral cats in and around the barn. I trapped, spayed, neutered, wormed, vaccinated and released every last one of them: 6 adults. I trapped, spayed, neutered, wormed, vaccinated, socialized, and re-homed two litters: 9 kittens.

All at my own expense.

My house cat, that moved here with me, died this spring. Someone gifted me with another feral kitten rescued at 3 weeks old and socialized . So I vaccinated, wormed, spayed, and chipped. At clinic prices, this cost me $190. When I called local vets, they quoted me prices from $400 - $600 for the same.

Reducing the cat population needs public clinics that spay and neuter for free.

Regulate cat owners, if you like. Making them keep cats indoors, or outdoors in escape-proof yards, is reasonable. At least within town limits. Living rurally, many people keep barn cats to help keep the rodent population down. That's why my place had that colony: rodent control. I think the previous owner did not trap, spay, and neuter because it's hard to keep cats outside around here. There are too many predators. Within a year of trapping, "fixing" and releasing, there were no more feral cats. Coyotes, owls, and hawks take their toll. As soon as the feral cats were gone, the pack rat and rabbit populations exploded.

Local clinics will DELIVER spayed and neutered feral cats straight to your barn here if you want barn cats. They'll deliver them every year, since they aren't likely to last longer than that.

Regulating the # of cats, as long as they are properly cared for, is risky if you really want to reduce the number of stray and feral cats.

My mother has 3 cats. She's had as many as 5 at a time. She's not a crazy cat lady. She's not a "cat nut." All of her cats have been rescues. She has the space and time.

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Response to LWolf (Reply #39)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:26 PM

40. Thank you for being so kind & unselfish.

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Response to LWolf (Reply #39)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:30 PM

56. There is no such thing as an escape-proof yard.

Years ago I had to leave my cat with my Dad when I took my Mom to visit my sister. My Dad spoiled her by letting her outside to run around with their cat. I've watched her learn to climb eight foot walls, 60 foot trees, the roof of any building within sight. There is no way I could keep her indoors or away from anything that gets her attention. Beyond that, it would really take away her enjoyment of life not being able to go out and patrol the neighborhood.

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Response to tech3149 (Reply #56)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 10:55 AM

63. Sure there is.

It depends on the make up of the yard, of course. If the yard has no trees, or access to the roof, then a no-climb fence will do.

If a yard has things that a cat can use to make it over the fence or onto the roof, then a wire-roofed enclosure works. A friend of mine has a cattery specifically for rescued cats. Their outside play area is a 12X20 wire enclosure. Inside there are things to climb on, hide under and behind, etc..



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Response to tech3149 (Reply #56)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:32 AM

65. So you don't care about the environment?

A cat outdoors is a killer. All cats should never roam free.

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Response to Undismayed (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:49 PM

47. I have 6.

All are rescues. All are spayed/neutered, and all stay indoors. How are my cats harming the environment?

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Response to Undismayed (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 07:00 PM

59. the problem is overdevelopment, suburbia and deforestation… not cats.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #59)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:33 AM

66. Wrong

All are factors. Cats kill tens of millions of birds every year.


If you don't keep your cats indoors at all times, YOU are a problem.

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Response to Undismayed (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 07:03 PM

60. (If that was a serious post) -- How rude.

You sound like an extremist and a "nut" yourself.

Cats are awesome and the best pet to have, hands down. Mine are indoors and don't hurt any birds.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:01 PM

2. I'm sure I'll get slammed but I have no problem with this law and here's why....

I’m sure for most of you who have more than 4 cats in the household you are probably very good cat owners who make sure all your cats are well taken care-of, cleaned out litter boxes, all fixed blah blah blah.

Problem is you people who can claim that are usually NOT in the majority. My parent had a neighbor that must have had about 20 cats in an about the house. Sure she made sure the cats were fixed but those cats were pooping everywhere and you could smell the house when you passed it. I know living in a row home I don’t know which would be worse as a neighbor – a crack house or a cat hoarder. We had one 3 doors down and it got to be pretty bad because she wasn’t fixing the cats. Finally we got the Humane society in there and it was up to about 40 cats most of them not fixed. (The lady has since moved and new owners really cleaned up the place).

I would like to think that the law should have exceptions especially if someone can show they are responsible cat owners making sure that they are fixing their pets and taking care of the cat’s well-being.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:21 PM

10. I think in general there should be pet limits

Point well taken!

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:19 PM

9. I don't either, and here's why

I live in Bakersfield, Ca, population 400,000.

Our SPCA euthanizes more dogs and cats than Los Angeles, which has a population of 3.8 million and most of them are strays.

We have a real problem with strays in our neighborhood. Bird population way down and illnesses related to cat waste is higher than other areas of the county.

Just in the last few years, there have been about a dozen people arrested for having 10+ cats in poor conditions.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:12 PM

33. Should they be arrested if they have 10+ cats in very good conditions?

Should they not be arrested if they have one cat in poor conditions?

Arbitrary limits are, well, arbitrary limits. A person who can't adequately care for a pet shouldn't be allowed to keep that pet. The number should be irrelevant. A limit treats the person living in a one room studio apartment the same as a person living on a farm with a barn, a ranch house, and 20 acres.

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Response to onenote (Reply #33)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:14 PM

35. I have yet to hear of anyone with that many cats...

And living in good conditions.

"as a person living on a farm with a barn, a ranch house, and 20 acres"

More than half the cases were from those kind of people. I live in farm country.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #35)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:30 PM

41. I had a neighbor who used to have 75 cats and they all were very healthy and happy.

So now you have heard of someone who had many cats who were well-cared for.
The vet would make house calls so they could all be up to date on shots.

The house which was immaculate was filled with cat furniture in every room.
The cats were all well-groomed and well-loved

I might add this was a sub-division home and all 75 cats were kept indoors
at all times.

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Response to Big Blue Marble (Reply #41)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:32 PM

42. So for your one story, I have more than a dozen

Laws are made for the good of society, which this law obviously does.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #42)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:51 PM

70. You said you had yet to hear of one story.

I just gave you that one story.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #35)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:35 PM

43. See my post # 39.

I don't have 20 acres; I have 6+, and a barn. I don't let my pet cat outdoors because of the predator risk, and I deal with the rodent problem...and it is a problem, without resorting to more feral cats.

I don't know what else should be done with adult feral cats; they are not that easy to socialize, especially in larger groups. When they aren't reproducing, they don't last long. I hope, during the year that they were around after I re-released them, that they ate more rodents than birds. That seemed to be the case. There was not a spike in bird populations after they were gone, but the rodent population sure took off.

Maybe feral cats released in suburban or urban areas don't have as many predators.

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Response to LWolf (Reply #43)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:42 PM

45. My city is paralyzed on what to do about strays

Large sections of the city park are unusable because of the health concerns and the unsanitary conditions.

And it wasn't a problem until the recession hit and owners started dumping their cats off in the park.

My cat Westen ("My name is Michael Westen. I used to be a spy. Until...") was abandoned by his owners at two weeks old in a box in the gutter on the corner of my street (ironically in front of a church) in 95 degree heat. He was the only survivor out of the three in the box.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #45)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:00 PM

48. I've seen that with dogs.

When I lived in the rural Mojave Desert, people used to dump their unwanted dogs.

That meant one of 4 things:

1. Coyote bait.
2. Long, slow, painful dehydration death.
3. A feral dog pack: much worse than a pack of coyotes.
4. Someone (me) collecting them and sending them to the pound to be euthanized if I couldn't take them myself or rehome them.

We've all been worried about how the economic depression affects people; it's been bad.

It's worse for the pets. They need to be rounded up, re-homed, or, if they can't be re-homed, euthanized.

I'm not a fan of euthanizing animals. In the case of the dumped dogs, I thought it was the lesser evil compared to being ripped apart by a pack of coyotes or dying of dehydration. In the case of health/sanitation concerns, it's probably the lesser evil, as well.

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Response to LWolf (Reply #48)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:16 PM

54. Stray dogs is a problem in the surrounding farm lands

Farmers were given permission to shoot any dog on sight. I believe the last count (sometime in Sept) was over 200 dogs killed by farmers after 6 months of the new policy.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:06 PM

7. Reasonable.

I think if you have a lot of cats, none of them are properly cared for.

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 12:24 AM

62. I have no problem with taking cats away from someone who doesn't properly care for them

But I no more assume that someone with one cat is properly caring for them than I assume that someone with five cats is not. If its shown that you're not properly caring for an animal, than it should be removed from your care. If you are properly caring for it, its no one's business.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:30 PM

12. It's four here

I've got three (or maybe two) since one was hit by a car last year. Seems like plenty to me.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:44 PM

15. I don't have a problem...

With people keeping multiple indoor only cats. What I have a real problem with is those who support feral cat populations by Trap-Neuter-Releasing (TNR) and feeding them. Based on what I have read predation by feral cats is a significant cause of the destruction of native wildlife, especially songbirds. If it's a choice between feral cats and birds, I choose birds, every time.

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 04:45 PM

22. So not having TNR will cause feral populations to decrease? How? TNR is proven to work in

reducing the number of reproducing feral cats. And if cats are fed they don't kill native wildlife for food.

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Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:37 AM

68. You are 100% wrong - TNR is a ABJECT FAILURE

Cats kill, whether fed or not. Fed cats still kill.


Don't fall for the TNR propaganda BULLSHIT - because that is what iti is - full of llies.

No cat should EVER, EVER be outdoors. To think otherwise is to say FUCK YOU to the environment.

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Response to dbackjon (Reply #68)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:41 AM

69. Are you the leading authority on TNR?

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:42 PM

57. Trap/euthanize or trap/relocate doesn't work as well as TNR.

Ferals choose a location based on the exploitable natural resources, something that every species does, including birds and humans. If you remove the colony it creates something called a vacuum effect, and more ferals will move into the area because those exact same resources still exist. TNR works by stabilizing the colony at a manageable size. The cats defend their own territory and keep new ferals from moving in. The majority of feral prey is rodents, not birds.

In rural areas nature takes care of stabilizing the size of the colony. In urban areas, with fewer natural predators, neutering is necessary. Cats are attracted to human populations, because rodents are attracted to human populations. Humans are rodent magnets. As a species, we spill a lot of food.

There is a difference between ferals and strays. You have to stop thinking of ferals as strays, they're not, they're wild. Strays can easily be re-homed and should be; the colony and the stray are both better off. There is a limited opportunity to socialize a feral kitten. A socialized feral kitten will grow up to be a domesticated cat.

A feral adult cat may learn to tolerate humans, but they will never be truly domesticated. Just like those idjits that keep chimpanzees and tigers in their apartments, someone keeping a feral cat should know that he could one day respond to a trigger that only he knows, and attack. Luckily he's small, so he probably won't kill anybody or rip someone's face off, like a tiger or a chimp, but still, don't ever think he's "tame."

I realize that it seems like euthanasia is the answer, but reality demonstrates that it doesn't work long term. Your concern for the birds is admirable. However, birds and cats have existed side by side for thousands of years and will continue to do so, without our interference. Unless of course we are interfering by creating artificial environments for the birds, with unnatural amounts of food and shelter. By luring them to places that they wouldn't normally be in great numbers, it throws off the balance of nature. People who do that, shouldn't then complain that the balance is off.

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Response to Chellee (Reply #57)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:59 PM

58. An excellent post, thank you very much.

You have brought up points that had not occurred to me. I will have to think about them.

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #15)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:34 AM

67. Exactly!!

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:48 PM

16. That makes no sense.

They want to eliminate stray cats, so they limit the number people can have IN THEIR HOUSES?

That is ass backwards.

Most stray cats don't "belong" to anybody, therefore their ordinance won't do shit.

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:55 PM

18. Maybe because people take in

the strays.

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:58 PM

20. Best Post!!!

I have no problem with how many pets someone has as long as they are well taken care of, not bothering the neighbors and not running loose. I really don't think we need laws telling people how many pets they can have. Should we legislate how many children they have too?

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Response to bluethruandthru (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:09 PM

30. absolutely....

" Should we legislate how many children they have too?"

Garrett Hardin was right: http://dieoff.org/page95.htm

I agree with you about pets though!

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:17 PM

36. Most cats become strays because of owners

Look at the number of pets released into the wild because of the recession.

In my city, it was a huge problem. You can't go to the city park anymore because of all the cat waste and dead birds they leave lying around everywhere.

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:08 PM

51. My thought was that this law will increase

the stray cat population! A lot of people may just dump their excess cats. I'm having a hard time seeing how this law will help at all.

The stray cat problems I witness have been from people moving away and leaving their cats behind. I also know a few places where cats are dumped. I took one in that had not become feral but there are so many more.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:50 PM

17. Only Four? How can you feed a family on only four cats?

sorry. just kidding.

i am against eating cats, i just couldn't help myself.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 04:42 PM

21. What does the number of 'owned' cats have to do with a stray cat problem? Why didn't they

put a TNR program in place.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:06 PM

50. RIGHT.

That would seem a more direct way to tackle the problem.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 04:56 PM

24. cat hoarding is álso a problem. ive seen houses over run with them

 

Can be real nasty.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 04:57 PM

25. We have 2 indoors only rescues and 4 bird feeders.

also have lots of native plants to attract more birds, bees and butterflies. We all get along great.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:07 PM

28. This is fucking stupid.

My mother is a cat hoarder. Seriously. And you know WHERE she gets all her cats?! She takes in all the STRAYS. People who love cats and keep them as beloved family members are NOT the problem. Assholes who toss them out ARE.

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Response to bunnies (Reply #28)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:12 PM

34. *** ^^^ this ^^^ ***

One of the reasons there are so few feral cats in my neighborhood is that I and several of my neighbors take them in. The overwhelming majority are abandoned pets, and so they (re-)socialize easily. There are currently six of them sleeping in my bedroom, contented and very well cared for, notwithstanding the comments up thread about that many pets being necessarily mistreated. Abandoning them is mistreatment.

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Response to mike_c (Reply #34)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:18 PM

37. exactly.

We took in a stray a few years ago. Called her "bones" short for skin-and-bones because she was SO skinny. The first time I tried to feed her she hissed and ran away from me horrified. "Ran" as well as she could with the horrible limp she had. Once she finally came inside she was one of the sweetest cats Ive ever owned. Someone left her to die outside alone. THAT person is the criminal.

Thank you for being such a love to your saved kittehs. A law trying to stop people from doing just that is asinine.

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Response to bunnies (Reply #28)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:10 PM

52. Yes but in our culture, we only know how to

make things ten times worse as opposed to facing and dealing with the orgin of the problem. I don't know why, but we do it as a society.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:08 PM

29. Is that four for the wife and four for the husband then?

 

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:21 PM

38. It's not going to stop hoarding. That's a mental illness

that doesn't respond to logic, reason, or local statute.

What they can do is what they do here, license breeders and fine anyone who breeds a cat without a license. There is also a pretty strong trap, neuter, release program for stray cats.

My back yard is the local cat flophouse because I don't have a dog. I've seen a marked decrease in the number of skinny, feral cats since I've been here. They're all sleek and well fed these days, meaning they have homes to go to. This is a good thing.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:36 PM

44. Cat ownership should be a requirement for gun ownership

I don't know of any cat people that would pick up a pile of weapons and blow away everyone at the local theater. It's the people that kick dogs and pull the wings off of flies that are the nut cases. I think, as a condition for a gun license, you have to prove that you own a cat and that the cat likes you enough to sleep on your lap.

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Response to flashsmith99 (Reply #44)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:19 PM

55. That's kind of a weird thing to post, flashsmith99 but I'm not sure that I totally disagree with you

 

I have two cats and more than 50 working firearms. I can't imagine myself murdering anyone.

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Response to flashsmith99 (Reply #44)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 07:07 PM

61. I've noticed that people who hate cats tend to have major control issues.

I stay away from cat haters. I am teaching my daughter that later, if she ever encounters a cat-hating man in her dating life, she should dump him as fast as possible. He'll probably try to tell her how to dress, who she can be friends with, etc., etc.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:15 PM

53. Los Angeles has an ordinance limiting people to 3 dogs, cats, or a combination of the two.

Nobody pays any attention to that. I certainly don't report violators to the city, lol. I DO on occasion discourage people who lose Cat #12 from replacing it until at least Cats #9, 10, and 11 are also gone.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:30 AM

64. Good - I wish more cities did the same

Also, need to ban unleashed cats - they are a terror the environment.

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