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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA Round of Applause for Harry Reid, Please!
The only Democratic leader who's not cool with cutting "strengthening" Social Security, and seems to have held fast for our interests in the latest shock doctrining.
And, as PA28 points out below... anyone who can get Boehner to demand that he perform sexual union with himself *must* be doing something right!
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)Glad to see that you've come to that realization.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)I suspect it will be back... Someone important has a fixation on cutting it.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"the only Democratic leader who's not cool with cutting "strengthening" Social Security" will hold fast in the future or do you think he will eventually cave?
You love making predictions, what's your take?
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Will he defy his boss?
I tend to think he will, but there will be a lot of pressure to not. Also, his boss tends to take Reid out of the loop when he's not sufficiently deferential to Republicans, which makes it even more difficult - he'd have to kill a deal rather than stop one from being made.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"Will he defy his boss? "
...defied "his boss" this time? What would cause him to submit in the future?
What do you see changing that would cause Reid to sellout Social Security and seniors?
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)And the wealthy want it for themselves.
Very, very strong pressure will be applied.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"Very, very strong pressure will be applied."
...who strongly supports Social Security will cave to pressure. Seriously, I don't think such a proposal could pass in the Senate, especially not the next Congress.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)And I hope that we never find out if it will pass, that it won't even come up.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)from the people that have been gunning for Social Security all along.
Possibly some additional pressure from someone that helped Reid in a very close election. I'm sure Reid doesn't need to be reminded about that.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)and DU came down on him like a ton of bricks for that apparently outrageous statement. By the same people that tell me to "read the Constitution"
patrice
(47,992 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)As she says, if Democrats lose they should make sure that there's blood and teeth left on the floor?
patrice
(47,992 posts)pa28
(6,145 posts)John Boehner staggered out of a bottle long enough to shake his fists and tell him to go fuck himself before staggering back in.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Mind if I add that to the OP?
pa28
(6,145 posts)marlakay
(11,425 posts)Of what republicans wanted in the fire, I thought yeh Harry!
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)rocktivity
(44,572 posts)If Medicare or Medicaid need more money, get rid of the age requirements.
rocktivity
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I admit. I was a doubter.
And part of me is still very skeptical about this deal.
But for the moment, thank you, Senator Reid.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)but did the best he could, given that his boss wanted a deal:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-mcconnell-and-biden-pulled-congress-away-from-the-fiscal-cliff/2013/01/02/992fe6de-5501-11e2-8e84-e933f677fe68_print.html
They werent moving because Democrats had decided that they had gone as far as they could. Reid and Obama had disagreed privately about what their next offer should be. At one point, Reid was unhappy with an idea that Senate aides said came from Obama to put the change in Social Security benefits back on the table in exchange for a delay in spending cuts and a rise in the debt limit.
Aides said Reid actually tore up the proposal and threw it into the blazing fire in his ornate green marble fireplace. The paper burned. Reid said he didnt want evidence that the idea had ever been considered.
...
McConnell, frustrated, asked an aide to call Biden. The two of them had brokered the deal that set up this mess, during the debt-ceiling crisis of 2011. Now, they would broker the deal that ended it.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)At one point, Reid was unhappy with an idea that Senate aides said came from Obama to put the change in Social Security benefits back on the table in exchange for a delay in spending cuts and a rise in the debt limit.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-mcconnell-and-biden-pulled-congress-away-from-the-fiscal-cliff/2013/01/02/992fe6de-5501-11e2-8e84-e933f677fe68_print.html
aquart
(69,014 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)K&R