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beevul

(12,194 posts)
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:41 PM Jan 2013

I just smoked the last cig in my last open pack, switched to e-cigs - ask me anything.

I just smoked the last cig in my last open pack. I've been smoking marlboro 100s for about 25 years, and my SO had smoked capri and merit and a few other brands for about the same time. We have tried quitting numerous times, and were able to hack it for almost a year, on our best try.

Between wanting to breath better and wanting to be healthier in general, and the cost of smoking, we decided to switch to e-cigs for better or for worse. We calculate that financially, it will cut the cost of smoking in half, or slightly better.

We tried mystic brand - the junk ones sold at walmart various convenience stores and smoke shops, and we both came to the same conclucion as the various reviews on them, that they were terrible.

After much research we settled on giving halo brand g6 model e-cigs a try.

Literally 40 minutes ago, I smoked my last "analog" cig in my past open pack, and I've been vaping on the halo on and off since then.


Ask me anything.

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I just smoked the last cig in my last open pack, switched to e-cigs - ask me anything. (Original Post) beevul Jan 2013 OP
good luck! I was a pack a dayer...then quit cold turkey. DonRedwood Jan 2013 #1
How badly are you Jonesing, and have you killed anyone yet? slackmaster Jan 2013 #2
The flavor/strength combo i'm using, kills the cravings completely. beevul Jan 2013 #7
That was my experience, too. Mariana Jan 2013 #59
We got a sampler, semi-anticipating a change... beevul Jan 2013 #81
One of my favorite flavors is Amaretto. Mariana Jan 2013 #87
If you're willing to learn to mix your own, bacon and roast beef are both available. politicat Jan 2013 #132
Are you planning on tapering off on the nicotine ? n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #3
We haven't thought that far ahead yet... beevul Jan 2013 #9
Best wishes to you on making the transition. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #28
Do you really, truly want to stop smoking? eom ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2013 #4
Thats a hard question to answer consistently. beevul Jan 2013 #11
When I quit I feel I was succesful at it ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2013 #15
I'm also doing the e-cig thing. Yesterday a medical provider gave me that same pollyanna talk Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #104
Nothing beats an oxygen high. Good luck to you! randome Jan 2013 #5
Is it like a Marijuana vaporizer musiclawyer Jan 2013 #6
Yes, very similar. beevul Jan 2013 #16
I just wish they would make the e-cig lighter so it could dangle in your mouth and not fall out of Booster Jan 2013 #58
yes it is and cannabis users use e-cigs all the time.... TeamPooka Jan 2013 #22
e cigarettes are not good riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #8
UNtrue superpatriotman Jan 2013 #10
are e cigarettes riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #26
Yes. beevul Jan 2013 #30
When I inhaled that e cigarette riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #62
That wasn't smoke Doremus Jan 2013 #67
well I coughed like it was a cigarette riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #68
umkay. Doremus Jan 2013 #69
Trying to pretend that someone who switches to e-cigs Mariana Jan 2013 #78
I just went through a major health crisis Glitterati Jan 2013 #95
My doctor was ecstatic as well Mariana Jan 2013 #101
Mine too. West Broward County Callmecrazy Jan 2013 #33
My sister buys them in Port St Lucie, FL. Little Star Jan 2013 #14
Not sure where you heard that...I'm in SoFL in the locale you mentioned and have been using e cigs Malikshah Jan 2013 #32
Good for you! My husband uses the e-cigs and does really well Beaverhausen Jan 2013 #12
What is the meaning of life?.... Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #13
Thats easy to answer. beevul Jan 2013 #17
So basically: "try and be nice to people, avoid eating fat, read a good book every now and then, get Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #23
Congrats and Good Luck... KharmaTrain Jan 2013 #18
You zeroed in on exactly what we hope for. beevul Jan 2013 #24
Been on the Blu for a while now. Glassunion Jan 2013 #19
Why are you bothering with the E-cigs? MrSlayer Jan 2013 #20
We tried several times to go "cold turkey". beevul Jan 2013 #25
What may be true for you.. 99Forever Jan 2013 #29
That's fine. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #63
Oh my... 99Forever Jan 2013 #73
No. But that's how I'm made to feel. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #83
and what makes you think your experience in everyones experience? defacto7 Jan 2013 #128
They are. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #130
Hardest thing I ever did. The one thing that kept me on the wagon in the short term was that... Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2013 #44
I'll tell you why I bother with the E-cigs. Mariana Jan 2013 #49
That's the only reason I find acceptable. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #64
It's different for different people. Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #50
I just think people are trained to believe certain things as absolute. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #65
Exactly correct alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #113
I found it very hard to quit until I adjusted my attitude. OnionPatch Jan 2013 #134
how old were you when you started smoking? blueknight Jan 2013 #21
Both my SO and I started just before we turned 18. beevul Jan 2013 #27
Been on V2s going on a little over a year... Malikshah Jan 2013 #31
I switched to ecig over 3 years ago. I currently use an Omega from altsmoke. phleshdef Jan 2013 #34
What you said, exactly. beevul Jan 2013 #48
I recommend e cigarette forum for a ton of great info on what is a good device and many Shilo Jan 2013 #88
Yea, I've lurked there quite a bit. phleshdef Jan 2013 #124
Another recommendation for altsmoke here. Ruby the Liberal Jan 2013 #121
Could you post some good links for the e-cigs? snooper2 Jan 2013 #35
I never found a good tobacco flavor... sweetloukillbot Jan 2013 #39
Sure. beevul Jan 2013 #41
I started out Budgies Revenge Jan 2013 #61
Try Green Smoke Indykatie Jan 2013 #36
Do you believe Oswald acted alone? jorno67 Jan 2013 #37
Yes he acted alone, using magic bullets. beevul Jan 2013 #56
Do you recommend these "halo brand g6" kind? Lex Jan 2013 #38
Based on my limited experience with them... beevul Jan 2013 #45
Thanks for your thorough reply. Lex Jan 2013 #55
How do you know how much nicotine you are getting? thecrow Jan 2013 #40
The e-juice comes in different strengths. beevul Jan 2013 #47
Good luck to you musiclawyer Jan 2013 #42
I tried e-cigarettes and they just did not do the trick. n/t RebelOne Jan 2013 #43
With any smoke cessation tool, you have to WANT to quit. Doremus Jan 2013 #112
It is so worth it. Just to no longer have the worry of it killing you is a great feeling once applegrove Jan 2013 #46
I've tried e-cigs Politicalboi Jan 2013 #51
Good luck and thanks for posting. I keep buying ecigs but I lose them, and ne dup back with the real robinlynne Jan 2013 #52
LOL, I kept doing stupid things to mine. Like washing one in my jeans pocket Glitterati Jan 2013 #60
Thank-you. It is so hard to keep one cigaret. I am so used to a pack.... robinlynne Jan 2013 #70
Here's what I did to keep track of my ecig Glitterati Jan 2013 #90
but it doesnt fit in the case!. Which is, imho the problem. you have to take it apart. robinlynne Jan 2013 #110
Good luck! Phentex Jan 2013 #53
While just about anything is better than sucking hot smoke Warpy Jan 2013 #54
Good Luck. bigwillq Jan 2013 #57
One year and three months off tar burning cigs. tavernier Jan 2013 #66
When you going to quit? The Midway Rebel Jan 2013 #71
Someone who's using e-cigs exclusively Mariana Jan 2013 #75
I did not say quit smoking. The Midway Rebel Jan 2013 #82
Sorry, I misunderstood you Mariana Jan 2013 #86
Can You Direct Me To... WiffenPoof Jan 2013 #72
see reply #41 cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #74
That is how I quit. Ecigs and also A half dose of Chantix. Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #76
Congrats! I quit cold turkey 30+yrs ago after smoking about 2 packs/day so you can do it. Michigan Alum Jan 2013 #77
Been away for a bit today...(sort of an update) beevul Jan 2013 #79
It probably won't take long for her to learn Mariana Jan 2013 #85
Good job! Glitterati Jan 2013 #92
I used NRT for years before I quit all nicotine Skittles Jan 2013 #80
You take a breath, you breathe in and out. Care Acutely Jan 2013 #84
Hang in there Berlum Jan 2013 #89
I've been smoke-free for four days. Here is my question. Recursion Jan 2013 #91
ROFL Glitterati Jan 2013 #93
Gum for when the desire to rampage through the office becomes unbearable Recursion Jan 2013 #94
Oh, you poor thing! Glitterati Jan 2013 #96
Is there nicotine in the e-cigs? dajoki Jan 2013 #107
You can purchase nicotine cartridges, yes Glitterati Jan 2013 #109
Because of your post, I just ordered a starter kit from Halo justiceischeap Jan 2013 #97
Good for you! I hope you enjoy it as much as I have. logosoco Jan 2013 #98
Congratulations! I'm on my 15th day of nothing but e-cigs... Tom Ripley Jan 2013 #99
How do the smoke-rings look? Do they spark? JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #100
Can you tell me what options you went for on the g6 model? tridim Jan 2013 #102
With the G6 I went with a blue colored starter kit. beevul Jan 2013 #114
I got the G6 starter kit, with the short battery, Tribeca flavor.. and a bottle of Turkish. tridim Jan 2013 #118
I hope it works out for you. beevul Jan 2013 #119
You reckon I can vap pot oil with one of them things madokie Jan 2013 #103
Most definitely. beevul Jan 2013 #115
You got my attention madokie Jan 2013 #129
I am a heavy smoker MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #105
E-cigs helped my dad quit. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #106
Do you prefer boxers or briefs? yellowcanine Jan 2013 #108
Depends... beevul Jan 2013 #116
How you doing today? Auntie Bush Jan 2013 #111
Been awake for an hour, and doing fine thus far. beevul Jan 2013 #117
I tried the Premium ohheckyeah Jan 2013 #120
The mix of PG/VG... beevul Jan 2013 #122
Wish I could find pre-filled ohheckyeah Jan 2013 #126
The atomizer will do that until it is "cured" Ruby the Liberal Jan 2013 #123
I've had it for over a year and it still does it. ohheckyeah Jan 2013 #125
A success story: Earth_First Jan 2013 #127
Kicking this just to check in to see how Beevul is doing... logosoco Jan 2013 #131
Its been a week now, give or take. beevul Jan 2013 #133
I need to quit for many reasons. Can someone recommend the best e-cig for me? smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #135
 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
7. The flavor/strength combo i'm using, kills the cravings completely.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:45 PM
Jan 2013

To my complete disbelief, and happy suprise.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
59. That was my experience, too.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:09 PM
Jan 2013

I had zero cravings or withdrawal symptoms of any kind. I couldn't believe it, either, but it really happened that way.

However, a couple of weeks into it, my sense of taste changed. The particular tobacco flavor I liked very well at first didn't taste so good anymore. There are some e-liquid suppliers that sell trial sizes for a very low price. That's a good way to try a lot of flavors without spending a bunch of money.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
81. We got a sampler, semi-anticipating a change...
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:14 AM
Jan 2013

One thing we made a point of doing, was getting a sampler pack of small bottles of various flavors.

Based on reading the experiences of others, we thought it would be a good idea to have alternatives on hand in case we began to dislike our current choice.

I'm looking forward to trying out some non-tobacco flavors some time down the road. I'm really not a drinker, and not terribly big on sweets or chocolate, but if i could find a flavor that tasted like bacon or turkey or steak, I bet I'd never put it down rofl.

Meat and potatoes guy here


Speaking of that, after dinner is going to be the real test, I think. It was always the hardest time when we were out of cigs and during the short time we had quit before.



Mariana

(14,854 posts)
87. One of my favorite flavors is Amaretto.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:15 AM
Jan 2013

I'm not a drinker either, because I'm allergic - I break out in hives if I drink alcoholic beverages! I do appreciate my Amaretto vape. I'll be thrilled if someone comes up with a good beer flavor.

Many of the coffee flavors are good, but some are just way too bitter for me. Vaping coffee after dinner is perfect. If you need to, you can sweeten your liquid at home with a little Stevia extract, by the way. Lots of people like the various fruit flavors, but I don't like them very much. There's just no telling what you'll like until you try them.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
132. If you're willing to learn to mix your own, bacon and roast beef are both available.
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:08 AM
Jan 2013

Mixing your own liquid is not hard (if you can use a dropper, you're good). The initial outlay is not too expensive, and it ends up being cheaper in the long run (also, more convenient -- less junk to haul around).

I don't like them (I'm very much a floral flavor vaper) but other people do.

I've been mixing for most of the time I've vaped, and wouldn't go back to pre-mix for love or money.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
9. We haven't thought that far ahead yet...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:48 PM
Jan 2013

We haven't thought that far ahead yet. I started out maximum strength, calculating that if its too strong or too much, hopefully I'll vape less.


In the future we'd like to taper off, but never having done the e-cig thing, we're most concerned about a successful transition first.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
11. Thats a hard question to answer consistently.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:52 PM
Jan 2013

Thats a hard question to answer consistently.

Its like...we "wish" to quit, but we "want" to smoke.


Addictions are like that.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
15. When I quit I feel I was succesful at it
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:55 PM
Jan 2013

because I really, truly wanted to quit. Once I had made that decision, there was no looking back. I laughed at the cravings which lasted for only a short time.

If you really want to, you will succeed at quitting and I couldn't be stronger in my hopes for you both that you will succeed.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
104. I'm also doing the e-cig thing. Yesterday a medical provider gave me that same pollyanna talk
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 10:21 AM
Jan 2013

'If you really, really want to stop like I did, you will just stop'
I asked her how she did it. 'I wanted to stop, for my health!'
No, I asked, not 'why' but 'how'...did you DO anything to get past the rough part?
'It is about your desire, that's it. Oh, and I ate candy from a huge bag I carried with me at all times.'
Did you gain weight"
'5lbs'
So 'how you stopped' was by eating a ton of candy as a replacement?
'I guess so. But you really have to want it too'
Uh huh.

musiclawyer

(2,335 posts)
6. Is it like a Marijuana vaporizer
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:45 PM
Jan 2013

Where there is still visible vapor but no smoke ?

If so it takes some getting used to but once you do, you wish vaping was an option decades ago and will never go back to full combustion

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
16. Yes, very similar.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:56 PM
Jan 2013

There is vapor on exhale, but no smoke, and no smell, or aroma.

We did many hours of reading, after failing miserably with the mystic brand (they review terrible), and settled on a few flavors that were reviewed as "very close to analog", and so far, we're really impressed.



Booster

(10,021 posts)
58. I just wish they would make the e-cig lighter so it could dangle in your mouth and not fall out of
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:39 PM
Jan 2013

your hand so easily. My heart doc says it's no good because it still has nicotine, but I kind of disagree that it's as bad as real cigarettes. Good luck and I hope it works for both of you.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
8. e cigarettes are not good
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:47 PM
Jan 2013

in fact they are banned in Florida...

I tried one in Sunrise mall in Florida..I hadn't smoked in years and when I puffed on it. I coughed horribly...The next week I read that Florida was banning them.

Smoking tobacco is the hardest addiction to give up...Good luck to you.

Finally after many years I don't have a craving....It took a long time.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
30. Yes.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:15 PM
Jan 2013

They vaporize a nicotine/flavor solution into steam, which is inhaled.

But without the tar and 10 thousandish other things found in normal cig smoke.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
62. When I inhaled that e cigarette
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:03 PM
Jan 2013

smoke came out of my mouth and it was the same feeling as if it were a real cigarette.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
67. That wasn't smoke
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:50 PM
Jan 2013

It was vapor, i.e. steam. Ever use a sauna? Have a vaporizer in your room? Same concept. Some, not all, e-cigs have nicotine added. Nicotine is not carcinogenic.

The oligarchy would really be stepping in it to ban e-cigs while allowing tar-, chemical- and carcinogen-laden analogs to be sold.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
68. well I coughed like it was a cigarette
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:50 PM
Jan 2013

I quit because I wanted to live longer. I found a better way to spend my money.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
69. umkay.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:53 PM
Jan 2013

"I quit because I wanted to live longer. I found a better way to spend my money."

Two reasons why anyone quits smoking.

Which has what to do with the OP again?

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
78. Trying to pretend that someone who switches to e-cigs
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 02:24 AM
Jan 2013

isn't really quitting smoking, I think. There are a few of those in this thread.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
95. I just went through a major health crisis
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 08:01 AM
Jan 2013

and my doctor thinks the ecigs are just absolutely wonderful!

Big high 5s every time he asks if I smoke and I respond ecig.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
101. My doctor was ecstatic as well
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:56 AM
Jan 2013

when I told him - and showed him. He had another patient in the waiting room whom he badly wanted to stop smoking, and he asked me to demonstrate it for her.

Malikshah

(4,818 posts)
32. Not sure where you heard that...I'm in SoFL in the locale you mentioned and have been using e cigs
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:18 PM
Jan 2013

for over a year....

V2, I believe, is based out of Miami....

Strange story there about the Sunrise mall (???) and the FL ban....

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
12. Good for you! My husband uses the e-cigs and does really well
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:52 PM
Jan 2013

I think he's gone a year without a real cigarette. His 2 grown kids use them too.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
23. So basically: "try and be nice to people, avoid eating fat, read a good book every now and then, get
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:04 PM
Jan 2013

get some walking in, and try and live together in peace and harmony with people of all creeds and nations......" :

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
18. Congrats and Good Luck...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:00 PM
Jan 2013

I was a 2 plus pack a day smoker for over 30 years and switched to an E-cig nearly two years ago. I haven't smoked a cig since...and have no desire. I am down to the lowest level of nicotine and feel a lot better. Not only that my family and friends have been extremely supportive. My daughter would never allow me near my grandchild if I still smelled like a smokehouse...she has no problem with my e-cig. There's no smell to annoy and with the right system you can puff away like you've always enjoyed.

You made a very good move...now stick with it! E cigs have made a very positive difference in my life...

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
24. You zeroed in on exactly what we hope for.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:06 PM
Jan 2013

Making a positive difference in our lives.

During the short time we quit, we slept better, breathed better, and food tasted and smelled better.

We have no kids at home, but we have a pack of pomeranians and american eskimo dogs, and we know the smoke from the cigs isn't good for them, which has been a source of daily guilt for a very long time.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
19. Been on the Blu for a while now.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:00 PM
Jan 2013

I love them. Just wait until your energy level increases, and your lungs clear up.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
20. Why are you bothering with the E-cigs?
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:01 PM
Jan 2013

You don't need them you know. You don't need gum or patches or any of that horseshit. Those are things "they" tell you you need because quitting is just sooooooo hard. It's just another way to take money from you that you don't have to spend. The secondary smoking market is growing bigger every day.

The big secret is that it isn't hard, that it's nothing. And they don't want people to know that. All you have to do is do it.

I quit on memorial day after thirty years and I was dissapointed that it wasn't the life and death, battle of all battles that I had heard so much about. There was no withdrawal, no irritability, no weight gain, no jonesing, nothing. It was as easy as I always said it would be. And I didn't even want to quit. I had to because it's too frigging expensive and I've been out of work forever. It seemed crazy to be spending a hundred bucks a week on smokes when unemployment only gives you five.

Congrats on dropping the cigarettes, it's a good thing. Now go ahead and drop the other stuff too, you really don't need it. The "addiction" is all mental, just like with everything outside of opiates.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
25. We tried several times to go "cold turkey".
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:09 PM
Jan 2013

We about killed each other lol.

We had it all, pacing, irritability, jonesing, weight gain, all of it.

For now, the e-cigs will cut what we were spending literally in half.

In the long run, we'll taper off if we can.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
29. What may be true for you..
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:15 PM
Jan 2013

... isn't necessarily true for anyone else. For some of us, quitting those gawdamn things is the hardest thing we have ever tried to do. Been free of them for 7 years now and just how difficult it WAS for me to finally quit, is my chief incentive to never start back up again. And no MrSlayer, the nicotine addiction is NOT "all mental," it a chemically induced addition according to actual real medicos and scientists, you know, people who spend 8-10 years in Universities and Colleges and get those funny letters like, MD and PHD behind their names.

Bad information is worse than no information.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
63. That's fine.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:28 PM
Jan 2013

Maybe I just have willpower, maybe I don't have an addictive personality or maybe I just don't believe things that aren't true no matter how much people want to convince me they are.

I always maintained that I smoked because I wanted to and that was true. I quit even though I really didn't want to for financial reasons and it was nothing. And if I decide to smoke again it will be because I want to and not for any other reason. Though it seems less likely that I ever will because there's no real point to it.

People should really take into account that they have absolute control over their actions. Don't believe the hype, you can walk away from anything you want. You're only as addicted as you want to be.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
83. No. But that's how I'm made to feel.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 04:25 AM
Jan 2013

On this one particular thing. I'm sorry if I just don't get what the big deal is.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
128. and what makes you think your experience in everyones experience?
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 04:34 AM
Jan 2013

You actually sound like an alcoholic. One of the most common alcoholic statements, "oh, I can quit anytime I want. It's nothing." and yet they can't.

Glad you have the genetic disposition that allows you to stop smoking easily, but your physical and genetic makeup is not everyone's. I have absolute pitch. Does that mean I can say, "hey, If you want to hear and name exact pitches or hear music in color you can, you've just been told you can't." that would be ridiculous because that's how I was born. Do you hear in color? Can you hear a cluster of notes and name the pitches? Maybe, maybe not.

People are different and conspiracy theories don't change that.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
130. They are.
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:57 AM
Jan 2013

I dont have perfect pitch but I have pretty good pitch. My son has near perfect. He can tell you the key and scale of nearly any chord you throw at him. I do hear in color, I get that.

And I'm not saying people aren't different, obviously they are. But at the same time just because a person out of the ordinary has a real addictive personality doesn't mean it's the norm for everyone. I think much of the addicted mentality is manufactured. Most people could have my experience, they just don't know it.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,831 posts)
44. Hardest thing I ever did. The one thing that kept me on the wagon in the short term was that...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:55 PM
Jan 2013

that I never wanted to go thru quitting again.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
49. I'll tell you why I bother with the E-cigs.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jan 2013

I use it because I enjoy it. I liked smoking, a lot. But I like vaping even better.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
64. That's the only reason I find acceptable.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:30 PM
Jan 2013

If you didn't want to, you wouldn't. it really is that simple.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
50. It's different for different people.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:19 PM
Jan 2013

Some are not addicted physically, and some are.

Some smokers go through a physical withdrawal that includes symptoms very much like a case of flu, not to mention the cravings. Some people quit easily. Some actually get so nauseous they vomit.
http://www.addictionrecov.org/Addictions/?AID=44

Your experience is not everyone's experience - but I agree that everyone should try quitting cold turkey - they might be one of the luckier ones.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
65. I just think people are trained to believe certain things as absolute.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:38 PM
Jan 2013

Nothing punishes you so hard as the mental anguish you put on yourself. And if something is beaten into your head enough you'll start to buy it even against your better judgement.

The corporations like to pretend they'd rather people not smoke but they still want that money smokers provide. Thus the "hardest thing to ever do" propaganda and the secondary smoker products.

Maybe it is different for different people but it doesn't have to be.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
113. Exactly correct
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 02:17 PM
Jan 2013

The whole "different people have different needs" thing is just another marketing campaign.

The only real quit is cold turkey. Everything else is switching one addiction for another.

I quit cold turkey 1 year ago. First four days are a mother. First ten days are hard. After that, no problem.

Great post. It needs to be said, even though people will always jump on you for saying it.

OnionPatch

(6,169 posts)
134. I found it very hard to quit until I adjusted my attitude.
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:56 PM
Jan 2013

If you tell yourself quitting is going to be horrible, it probably will. A positive attitude can go a long way. I was finally successful after many tries when I used a combination of methods that included affirmations. Even though I didn't believe any of it at first, I just kept telling myself "I'm a non-smoker", "I love to be able to breathe clearly", "I have no desire for a cigarette" and so on. I know some may find this silly, but it worked wonders for me. (15 years a non-smoker now) But I say people should try whatever they believe might work for them. At least it's better for their health if they can switch to e-cigs.

blueknight

(2,831 posts)
21. how old were you when you started smoking?
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:01 PM
Jan 2013

and why did you start? i just thought it looked so damn cool.....

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
27. Both my SO and I started just before we turned 18.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:12 PM
Jan 2013

Why we started...it wasn't a "cool" thing...tried it and liked it, I suppose.


We certainly didn't know any better.

Malikshah

(4,818 posts)
31. Been on V2s going on a little over a year...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:16 PM
Jan 2013

Moved to liquid and then to the liquid in the clear case (Beta version). Haven't had analog since I started.... good luck

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
34. I switched to ecig over 3 years ago. I currently use an Omega from altsmoke.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:21 PM
Jan 2013

But I buy all my liquid from Halo. They have the best liquid hands down.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
48. What you said, exactly.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jan 2013

We looked and looked and read and watched, and came to the conclusion that beyond a certain point, the cig itself isn't that different from brand to brand, in terms of how they work.

Its the juice reviews that sold us on halo.

Shilo

(101 posts)
88. I recommend e cigarette forum for a ton of great info on what is a good device and many
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:28 AM
Jan 2013

wonderful fellow vapers. I too bought from Altsmoke in the past and they are great. Anything that keeps you not smoking is a good thing. That forum can lead you to the best vendors and not rip off stuff like what they sell in the mall.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
121. Another recommendation for altsmoke here.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:07 PM
Jan 2013

Rob is the best. I was one of his first customers when he started in the business, and now he has a complete brick and mortar operation. I am THRILLED to see him doing so well. He never smoked, but saw the opportunity when his mom quit and built a business out of it several years back.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
35. Could you post some good links for the e-cigs?
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:22 PM
Jan 2013

I got my wife the $20 starter kit from a head shop for Xmas but it's really not good for somebody wanting the flavor of a real smoke...

Wife smokes Doral 100's and I am marlboro lights

So you using the kind where you add the drops of liquid to re-charge?

Uses a USB charger?

sweetloukillbot

(11,004 posts)
39. I never found a good tobacco flavor...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:44 PM
Jan 2013

I tried several and they all tasted strange - like an unlit cigarette, but nothing ever had the smoke flavor. However, I ended up experimenting with flavors and found I liked using the non-tobacco flavors even more - I used a mint bubblegum and licorice juices that I enjoyed immensely.
I was able to go from a pack of little cigars every two days to no-nic juice on the e-cig within six months. That was 18 months ago. Haven't used it at all since July.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
41. Sure.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:49 PM
Jan 2013

What we are using are the halo g6, and their torque 56 juice.

http://www.halocigs.com/

Yes, these are the ones that let you refill them yourself, and the cartomizers (cartridges) have an anti-burn technology to allow for more refills before theyre burned out, and you are correct, they use a USB chrager.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/

The forum I linked above was a really great resource in deciding what direction we were going to go in, as well as smokenjoeys reviews also:

http://www.smokenjoey.com/

I would urge anyone looking to make the change to really research it before you commit to any particular brand, because there are a lot of factors to consider.

Whatever you do, stay away from "mystic" brand, they're terrible. They taste terrible, review terrible, and they're not designed to be refilled.

Many of the brands you'll see reviewed on the e-cig forum I linked to above, have flavors you wouldn't believe existed - I've seen raspberry, pizza, popcorn, french toast, pretty much if its something you eat, someone somewhere makes the e-juice in that flavor.



Budgies Revenge

(216 posts)
61. I started out
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:36 PM
Jan 2013

with a Joyetech E-Go T system. I liked the idea of having a "tank" that you could easily refill with e-liquid, plus it holds a huge amount of liquid--I was paranoid about running out when I first started. After using that for a while, I started to have problems with juice leakage around the gasket on the tank, and also if you didn't really clean the wick up, you got a very unpleasant taste--so I switched over to a SmokTech dual coil cartomizer for the E-go battery (the E-go is a style 510 battery) and I have been very happy since then. I try to buy "relatively" local--so I get all of my stuff from Awesome Vapor in Cumming, GA. The folks there are great, they make up their own juices, they will send samples with your order, and if you stop by their shop--they let you try out stuff.

When I started out, I only wanted "tobacco" flavored e-liquid, but as my taste buds returned, I've switched over to other flavors--my current favorite is the Awesome Vapor Watermelon--but, as you will find out, what one person loves--another person may hate!

The E-go's use a USB charger, and you can get a version of the battery that has what's called a "passthrough" so you can plug it into any USB port and continue to vape while it is charging.

Indykatie

(3,695 posts)
36. Try Green Smoke
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:30 PM
Jan 2013

I have used e-cigs for close to 2 years and never thought about going back to regular cigarettes since day one. I smoked menthol cigarettes for 20 years but now enjoy the vanilla flavor of Green Smoke brand more than their menthol flavor. Give them a try, I think you will be pleased. You will find your breathing will continue to improve in the coming weeks and months. Stick with it.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
56. Yes he acted alone, using magic bullets.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jan 2013

Whether he acted alone or not, doesn't rule out others "acting alone" in parallel, though.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
45. Based on my limited experience with them...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:59 PM
Jan 2013

I would right now say yes.

We used the mystic brand sold at walmart, and convenience stores for a short time, and the difference between it, and halo with halos joice is night and day.

The mystic did not really do much for the cravings unless you really hit it hard and repeatedly, and they taste terrible.

With what I have now, I hit it once or twice, and set it down, like setting a cig in the ashtray for a couple minutes.

There is a caveat though - the longer one stays away from the real thing, the more your taste buds and sense of smell return to normal (or so I've read anyway), so what might taste bad right off might taste good after a while, and what might taste good right off may not after time. Theres also something called steeping, with the e-juice, which (again this is what I read) has to do with the ejuice becoming completely mixed. I still don't have a good enough understanding of it to put it into my own words, but did read that the term is the same as used when discussing tea. I'm not a tea drinker so the term and its real world meaning are new to me.

Lex

(34,108 posts)
55. Thanks for your thorough reply.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:31 PM
Jan 2013

I appreciate it. A friend who wants to quit has been considering e-cigs and I wanted to pass along your information about your experience and the brand, etc. to her.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
47. The e-juice comes in different strengths.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:05 PM
Jan 2013

Also, in terms of "self medicating" yourself, you can kinda tell if you're overdoing it or underdoing it...you can sort of feel if its under or over your own personal "baseline".

The stuff we ended up settling on, comes in different strengths - 6/12/18/24 mg per ml. I think theres also no nicotine flavors as well, but not sure if the outfit we went with has them.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
112. With any smoke cessation tool, you have to WANT to quit.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 02:12 PM
Jan 2013

First and foremost. Or it's all a waste of time.

I became motivated when I literally couldn't breathe anymore. I had tried e-cigs previously and tossed them in the drawer when they weren't a perfect substitute for the smoke I craved. Later, after nearly hacking my lungs out and unable to catch my breath, I finally said enough. I told myself I was going to smoke those damned e-cigs whether I liked them or not. That was 3.5 years and probably $15k of un-bought cigs ago.

Btw, it's true. Your lungs do heal, even after a 30+-year 2-pack-a-day habit. Peace.

applegrove

(118,600 posts)
46. It is so worth it. Just to no longer have the worry of it killing you is a great feeling once
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jan 2013

you have been quit a few months. I literally never crave these days and it has been 4 years.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
51. I've tried e-cigs
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:23 PM
Jan 2013

But no luck for me. My nephew used Chantix and quit in 5 days. I'm afraid of trying Chantix for fear of losing the want to smoke pot. Chantix is expensive I've heard. About $180.00 , but in the long run, that is about one months of smoking.

robinlynne

(15,481 posts)
52. Good luck and thanks for posting. I keep buying ecigs but I lose them, and ne dup back with the real
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:25 PM
Jan 2013

ones....

anyway Good Luck and congrats!!!

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
60. LOL, I kept doing stupid things to mine. Like washing one in my jeans pocket
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:16 PM
Jan 2013

Dropped one in the toliet, watched it flash all the way down. Dropped one out of my hand into my coffee cup on the desk.

I just had no luck keeping my ecigs safe for a while. I just grabbed 2 starter kits, and one extra battery so I have back ups now.

But, I've been on them for over a year and love it.

Here's where I buy mine - they've got a 10% off sale going on right now.
http://www.electroniccigarettesfast.com/

10% Off!
Please use this exclusive coupon on your next purchase! Just enter "JNRF13" in the promotional code section at checkout to redeem.

robinlynne

(15,481 posts)
70. Thank-you. It is so hard to keep one cigaret. I am so used to a pack....
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 12:08 AM
Jan 2013

First I bought a black one, really stupid. could never find it. Now I'm on my third white one......no clue where it (the two of them) might be.
but I admire those of you who have made the switch!!!!

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
90. Here's what I did to keep track of my ecig
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 07:48 AM
Jan 2013

The starter kits at the link above come with a small case (about the size of a cigarette pack). By using the case, it made perfect sense to put the ecig back in the case when I was done. Much harder to lose and keeps mine safely out of liquids they aren't supposed to be in. LOL

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
54. While just about anything is better than sucking hot smoke
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:29 PM
Jan 2013

into your lungs, the e-cigs are still delivering nicotine and shutting your arteries down. One real advantage is that most people gradually wean down the amount of the drug since e-cigs don't have people compulsively smoking down to the butt, long after the nicotine craving has been satisfied. That's one way they allow people to quit, by weaning them down without their realizing it.

I also know that some people have tried everything, over and over again, and can't seem to quit. For those folks, a tiny minority of smokers, the e-cigs are probably the best improvement they can get.

In addition, if you manage to wean completely off nicotine, the e-cigs come with non nicotine cartridges so that you can "habit smoke" fairly harmlessly, like with that cuppa in the morning or on the phone.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
57. Good Luck.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:40 PM
Jan 2013

I was on e-cigs for about a month. I liked it, but went back to cigs.
Hope it works for you.

tavernier

(12,375 posts)
66. One year and three months off tar burning cigs.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:46 PM
Jan 2013

Over the course of that time I borrowed five cigs off and on because I'd forgotten my e cig. Two puffs each time, until finally I admitted that the taste was just too nasty.

I smoked for fifty two years and with e cigs, quitting was the easiest thing I ever did.

No cough, no respiratory problems, no stinky clothes. I bet my lungs look a tiny bit better as well.

The Midway Rebel

(2,191 posts)
82. I did not say quit smoking.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 04:15 AM
Jan 2013

I said, "quit". If you are you using "e-cigs", you are still addicted to the drug nicotine and have only changed the method of ingestion.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
86. Sorry, I misunderstood you
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 04:58 AM
Jan 2013

because he already said, much earlier in the thread, that they hadn't decided yet about when to quit the nicotine. At this point, they're concentrating on quitting smoking.

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
72. Can You Direct Me To...
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 12:34 AM
Jan 2013

...the best brand of e-smokes out there? I have tried one brand and was not that impressed. I think that the vaporizer was broken or something. I really need to find an alternative. Do you have any suggestions. Reading some of the success stories here makes me want to give e-smokes another shot.

-Paige

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
76. That is how I quit. Ecigs and also A half dose of Chantix.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 02:16 AM
Jan 2013

i credit the ecigs for getting me over those horrible cravings in the beginning.
It has been over 3 years since I quit. I smoked for 39 years, 2pks a day. You can do it!!!

Michigan Alum

(335 posts)
77. Congrats! I quit cold turkey 30+yrs ago after smoking about 2 packs/day so you can do it.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 02:18 AM
Jan 2013

Just don't be fooled into thinking that you can just have one cigarette and not go back to the habit. That's what I did the first time I quit.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
79. Been away for a bit today...(sort of an update)
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:04 AM
Jan 2013

Been away a bit since my last post, raiding mmo style, an activity during which I usually smoke like a chimney.

Made it through a few hours raiding, and the cravings are still under control, although my SO is having a little bit of a hard time with it. Shes not vaping enough I think. It is habbit with an analog cig, to smoke it while its lit and burning, and you sort of treat it, by habit, like the clock is ticking - again, because its burning. She has been taking a puff and setting it down, and not metering it to herself like one would, by habit, with an analog.

So it would appear there is some behavior modification that goes with using them, at least when you first start.




Thank you everyone for the good wishes also, smoking is not an easy habit to break, at least in our case.






Mariana

(14,854 posts)
85. It probably won't take long for her to learn
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 04:53 AM
Jan 2013

to "dose" herself adequately. There's no need whatsoever to feel deprived. If she's feeling cravings, see if she'll take two or three drags when she picks it up, instead of just the one. Then it will be more like the dose she'd get if she were smoking. At this stage, it's better not to wait until you "need" a hit to take one. It's better to prevent the cravings altogether.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
92. Good job!
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 07:59 AM
Jan 2013

Just keep going. You'll be really happy you did.

I, too, tried to quit every which way and failed every time. Of course, I had a saboteur (my deceased husband) who would smoke in front of me making it harder. He just refused to quit and it eventually killed him (2nd heart attack).

Tell your wife to keep the ecig close at all times (don't you love you don't have to search for an ashtray to put it down - into the pocket it goes!) and use it a LOT. Also, try a milder nicotine vapor for her - the 24 mg were just way too much for me at first, so I went with the 11mg to start with. And, I was a 3 pack a day smoker.

Just a hint....keep a spare kit in the car. You'll find you're going somewhere and your battery dies. If you have a backup in the car, you won't be tempted to run to the store for a pack of cigarettes. Even if you have a car charger, you're out of ecigs while it charges.

Skittles

(153,142 posts)
80. I used NRT for years before I quit all nicotine
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:06 AM
Jan 2013

almost like I switched one habit for another (better for my health but bad for the finances)....try to remember this vaping is a TEMPORARY thing and that the goal is to get of nicotine completely......vape away but remember the ultimate goal is N.O.P.E. (NOT ONE PUFF EVER).....GOOD LUCK!

Care Acutely

(1,370 posts)
84. You take a breath, you breathe in and out.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 04:41 AM
Jan 2013

Sorry. It's a word peeve.

Best of luck to you, it's a step in the right direction for sure. to your future good health.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
89. Hang in there
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 07:15 AM
Jan 2013

..and if you slip up, just wrap it up and go right back to being smoke free. You will make it. Good on you.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
91. I've been smoke-free for four days. Here is my question.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 07:52 AM
Jan 2013

Why does everyone around me become unbelievably stupid when I stop smoking?

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
93. ROFL
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 08:00 AM
Jan 2013

I think that's an unanswerable question.

Cold turkey or ecigs? Cold turkey might be the answer, BTW. LOL

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
94. Gum for when the desire to rampage through the office becomes unbearable
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 08:01 AM
Jan 2013

But the gum makes me nauseated (I used to dip way back in the day and I think it reminds me of that) so it's only for when it's really bad.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
96. Oh, you poor thing!
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 08:04 AM
Jan 2013

I tried it all - gum, lozenges, patches.

Gum - I have dentures and it sticks to them. What an ungodly mess!

Lozenges - don't drink anything after sucking on one - UGH~

Patches - I am so allergic to the glue used in them, I want to rip my skin off. Same with most bandage glue.

Ecigs were my lifesaver.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
109. You can purchase nicotine cartridges, yes
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 11:22 AM
Jan 2013

In varying degrees of strength.

There are also "flavors" without nicotine.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
97. Because of your post, I just ordered a starter kit from Halo
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 08:21 AM
Jan 2013

will you reimburse me if I hate it?

I've been battling bronchitis (first time ever) for over a month now, I'm hoping that e-cigs will help. I've been smoking close to 30 some odd years and at 41 (almost 42) it's time to start the process of quitting. I recently tried the gum and it made me sick to my stomach, so I'm hoping I have a better experience with this.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
98. Good for you! I hope you enjoy it as much as I have.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:17 AM
Jan 2013

January 9 will be my one year mark (after 33 years of smoking). Husband switched Feb. 1.
I enjoy them very much. It took some getting used to, the physical habits were different, i.e. no tapping the ash off, no lighting.
We went through a couple of models before settling on one (Joytech 510T). It is fun experimenting with different flavors.
My niece (31) tried them in July and is doing great. I am calling my nephew today, he started trying them about a week ago, to see how he is doing.
I have no plans on stopping them. I enjoy them. The taste, the feel of the nicotine. Once we got past the experimental stage we have noticed a big difference in the investment.
I saved the last cig out of my last pack. It is sitting out in the garage where I used to spend all my time smoking. Now I can vape inside and around my grand kids. I can breathe so much better. The other day I "raced" with my grand kids up the hill to my house and, from habit, I stood there waiting to catch my breath, and it was so funny to realize I was breathing normally!
After a few months I started noticing I could smell cig smoke on other people. Yuck. I am glad I will never smell like that again.
I wish you much pleasure and success!

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
99. Congratulations! I'm on my 15th day of nothing but e-cigs...
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:35 AM
Jan 2013

I have been smoking for three decades, but have not been missing those tubes of tobacco at all.
I am absolutely amazed.
Nicotek METRO for me.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
100. How do the smoke-rings look? Do they spark?
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:38 AM
Jan 2013

Smoking's a bitch. Quitting's a bitch. Best of luck.

I've forgotten how long ago I quit. More than 10 years. I don't dream of smoking very often now.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
102. Can you tell me what options you went for on the g6 model?
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:56 AM
Jan 2013

What flavor of juice did you get (that you liked)? I think I'm going to get the starter kit.

I tried one of the disposables, and it's okay.. Just tastes too much like fake vanilla extract.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
114. With the G6 I went with a blue colored starter kit.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:32 PM
Jan 2013

When you push the button on the manual unit or vape from the automatic, the end of it has a blue led instead of red like many of them have. Its very soft light, not something that glows like rudolphs nose lol, and I prefer that.


I started out with large (30ml) bottles of prime 15 flavor, and torque56 flavor, and I started out with the 24 mg/ml which is the maximum strength. Right now, I'm vaping torque 56 and I like it thus far. I have tried prime 15 but it wasn't pleasant to me, though I'm giving it a chance to steep for a few days and try it again after before I close the book on it.

My thinking was thus:

I was a very heavy smoker. about a pack and a half a day, but I took BIG drags when smoking. I want as little "difference" in the transition as possible, with the aim being a successful transition.

Once I feel like we've made the successful transition, We are going to branch out to other flavors and lower ni9c content.


Gradually of course.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
118. I got the G6 starter kit, with the short battery, Tribeca flavor.. and a bottle of Turkish.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:39 PM
Jan 2013

20% off of everything.

Thanks for the advice!

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
119. I hope it works out for you.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:47 PM
Jan 2013

The 20 percent off is a nice bonus too.

Please, let me know how you like those flavors also, those two didn't come in our sampler iirc.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
129. You got my attention
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:18 AM
Jan 2013

What I need is a conformation on what kind I need to purchase. Is this the one?

Thank in advance TIA

I know how to make the oil

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
105. I am a heavy smoker
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 10:38 AM
Jan 2013

And I have an e-cigarette I have not even taken out of the package.
I'm kinda concerned I might inadvertently OD on nicotine.

I hope it works out for you. I know how much of a hold these damn things can have.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
117. Been awake for an hour, and doing fine thus far.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:39 PM
Jan 2013

The cravings are under complete control, and already my sense of taste and smell are ever so slightly, but noticably beginning to change.

I only catch hints of it here and there, but it is real.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
120. I tried the Premium
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 07:42 PM
Jan 2013

e-cig and there is a terrible chemical after-taste. How about the G6? Do you notice that? Does it use vegetable glycerin or propylene glycol? Premium uses propylene glycol and I'm wondering if that is the after taste.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
122. The mix of PG/VG...
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:18 PM
Jan 2013

Thats something thats discussed in the ecig forums alot.

The juice I'm vaping now is PG based, but I'm not getting much after taste using the G6 with torque 56, and what little I do get I couldn't describe in any significant way.



There are many many juices based on both "bases", I would guess its just a matter of trial and like or dislike, where the juices are concerned. One thing about them, is that it seems like...for any given juice, that they tast the same to between 30 and 50 percent of those that try them, and the remainder of those that tried them, all have a unique and individual sense as to what they taste like.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
126. Wish I could find pre-filled
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 03:13 AM
Jan 2013

cartridges from another company that fit my Premium e-cig. One that doesn't use propylene glycol.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
123. The atomizer will do that until it is "cured"
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:36 PM
Jan 2013

Sorry, don't know how to describe it, but some atomizers give off a bad taste until they are used for a day or so.

It may also be your juice. Maybe try a small order from a different supplier? www.puresmoker.com has awesome juices and they are USA made near them in Nashville - not imported from China and resold (with God knows what in them).

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
127. A success story:
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 03:22 AM
Jan 2013

I smoked for the better part of 15 years; I work outdoor labor (landscape construction industry) so a good portion of those years were the better part of a pack and a half a day habit. An expensive one at that...

Last February, I went to the hospital late in the evening with shortness of breath, blurred vision, pain radiating from my shoulder into my elbow and fingertips; I thought I was having a heart attack. At 32. I was scared shitless.

I had tried the 'New Year's Resolution" to quit, the birthday quit, the sick quit, every quit there was in the book. I even tried the Chantix quit, twice.

The first Chantix quit was great, it was everything it claimed to be; so great that one fateful night two months into the program, I had a moment of weakness and the walls came crashing down. I was so devestated.

So in the months following, I took to an e-ciggarette to help combat the amount of awful inhalation of smoke that I was putting my body through. It seemed to help, however the Feburary I mentioned earlier came to pass and I knew it was my time.

I took the script for the Chantix, and with the help of an e-cig the first two weeks; never looked back again.

That was ELEVEN MONTHS AGO this upcomming Friday...

I know that all the "if I can do it, you can do it's" in the world aren't going to help you in your own personal quit, that's even if you are ready to quit. Your OP doesn't particularly mention quitting, just looking for 'healthier' options to traditional smoking.

Just a bit of anecdotal evidence that an e-cig can be utilized as a crutch in an attempt to quit smoking...

Best of luck to your decision to make improvements to your own personal health!

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
131. Kicking this just to check in to see how Beevul is doing...
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:43 PM
Jan 2013

not trying to call you out or anything. Hoping everything is going well and you are still away from regular cigs and enjoying the vapes!!

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
133. Its been a week now, give or take.
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:57 PM
Jan 2013

After three days, I decided to try an analog cig just to compare. All I can say is it tasted terrible - there will be no going back. So yeah, 1 analog in the first week, not because I really wanted to per se, just to compare the nicotine and taste etc.

I did have an issue with a couple batteries going bad, so after some research, bought another starter kit, but this one is very different from the kr808 style cig type batteries. Its called the elite, and its a compltely different animal:



Also I bought some tank style carts, and I absolutely LOVE them:




Between that particular device and the carts, I feel like I'm getting exactly what I was looking for now, in terms of "throat hit" and vapor production, where I just wasn't with the smaller batteries and smaller carts.

Where that leaves me right now is here:


I'm comfortable with the device and the e-liquid I'm using, and its meeting my needs in terms of both nicotine level , and in terms of a satisfying throat hit. But...

Both my SO and I are looking at new and different flavors, and especially at mixxing our own at some point, and we are looking at an outfit called viking vapors . com for some really inexpensive juices. They are very inexpensive and american made. The halo torque56 I'm vaping now, is 20 dollars US for a 30 mg bottle, while vikings juices are around ten dollars for a 30 ml bottle. Not only that, but you can order vikings juices with double flavor strength, and also order unflavored juice to mix. The hard part, is ordering e-juice that you've never tried, but reading others reviews - in spite of things tasting ddifferent to different people - does help a bit.


Already I sleep and breath much better at night, and I just feel better in general, than I have for a very very long time. The SO and I are both very glad we made the switch, though she still struggles a bit more than I do - she ordered lower nicotine content e-liquid than I did, plus she was never a deep inhaler was a smoker, where I was. I figured I'd write another OP after a month or so has gone by...sort of an informative post of the things we've learned, and a little on our progress, what to expect from a few given devices/juices etc, as a sort of informational post for those that are thinking about making the switch.

Overall, its been an interesting and worthwhile journey thus far, starting with mistic brand, moving up to halo, and then moving to the elite from cigeasy.As of right now, I would STRONGLY recommend people to make the switch if you're thinking about it, but really do your homework about devices and e-juice.







 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
135. I need to quit for many reasons. Can someone recommend the best e-cig for me?
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 09:39 PM
Jan 2013

I smoke only at night and sometimes on the weekends and I smoke Marlboro Ultra Light Menthols. I don't have any desire during the day but at night I can't give it up and I need to.

The board of trustees in my building have just outlawed smoking anywhere on the premises and if I don't quit I could lose my apartment, so it's serious for me.

Also, I have just seen a cardiologist for hormonally related HBP and she wants me to quit for health reasons. I really want to, and I am not that addicted to nicotine, just the action of smoking. Can anyone give me any advice? It would be most appreciated.

You can send a private message if you would like. Thanks in advance for helping me quit!

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