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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:58 AM

US went from being the world's largest international creditor to the largest debtor nation

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A26402-2004Jun8?language=printer

Economic Legacy

Reagan Policies Gave Green Light to Red Ink

By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, June 9, 2004; Page A11

The line is not likely to make this week's eulogies to Ronald Reagan, but when Vice President Cheney allegedly declared, "Reagan proved deficits don't matter," he summed up an enduring argument from the former president's economic legacy.

In late 2002, Cheney had summoned the Bush administration's economic team to his office to discuss another round of tax cuts to stimulate the economy. Then-Treasury Secretary Paul H. O'Neill pleaded that the government -- already running a $158 billion deficit -- was careering toward a fiscal crisis. But by O'Neill's account of the meeting, Cheney silenced him by invoking his take on Reagan's legacy. snip

The fiscal shift in the Reagan years was staggering. In January 1981, when Reagan declared the federal budget to be "out of control," the deficit had reached almost $74 billion, the federal debt $930 billion. Within two years, the deficit was $208 billion. The debt by 1988 totaled $2.6 trillion. In those eight years, the United States moved from being the world's largest international creditor to the largest debtor nation.

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Might want to mention this to any Republican acquaintances when they bring up the deficit. I imagine they would like us to forget this.

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Reply US went from being the world's largest international creditor to the largest debtor nation (Original post)
NNN0LHI Jan 2012 OP
TreasonousBastard Jan 2012 #1
Demstud Jan 2012 #3
FreakinDJ Jan 2012 #2
pampango Jan 2012 #4
FreakinDJ Jan 2012 #5
Scurrilous Jan 2012 #6

Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:04 AM

1. I have, and they just ignore it. Politics has...

quite a bit in common with religion for partisans on all sides.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:22 AM

3. Yup. Last one I talked to blamed "union thugs".

Some, particularly some of the older Republicans, are just too completely indoctrinated. But it's still good to make the facts known to as many people as possible. There's always a few in the crowd who can be convinced with sound argument, I think.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:05 AM

2. The Benifits of Free Trader Policies

Cheers to ya Milton - you accomplished what several ruthless Dictators with Armys never could

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Response to FreakinDJ (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:54 AM

4. What "free trade" did we have from 1981 to 1989? n/t

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Response to pampango (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:34 AM

5. An overall reduction in Tariffs 1984

In 1985, the U.S. imported many more goods than it exported, setting a record trade deficit of $148 billion

In 1984 the U.S. unilaterally lowered its tariffs against many states in the Caribbean Basin, as part of its Caribbean Basin Initiative.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Trade_Area_of_the_Americas


Free Trade Policies were not designed to promote Wealth in the United States but rather to promote Democracy through out the developing countries.

http://www.princeton.edu/~hmilner/forthcoming%20papers/LDCdem_IO.pdf

To that means it has worked very well while at the same time here in America our freedoms are diminishing and being challenged daily.

BTW: USA is the only country with 0% tariffs

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:18 PM

6. Thanks.

K & R

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