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Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:03 PM

About the Country Music of this decade->

http://www.roughstock.com/reviews/justin-moore-outlaws-like-me

"Why are (some) country folks so darn defensive? If Justin Moore is any cultural weathervane for the South, these modern day outlaws sure act like musical defense lawyers. However, if Southerners are so overtly proud of their lifestyle -- which they express with Confederate flags, among other symbols -- why do they work so hard to justify their way of life? It just doesn’t make sense.

Moore’s first single from Outlaws Like Me, “If Heaven Wasn’t So Far Away,” is a beautiful meditation on man’s innate desire to get back in touch with friends and loved ones that die too soon. Unfortunately, this classy and sincere track is an exception to an otherwise classless effort.

One track called “Guns” even gets defensive about self-defense. It makes a weak sauce case for gun ownership. Instead of presenting examples of why having a gun might make some sense, Moore merely defends owning guns simply because he wants to have one. On “Bait A Hook,” Moore looks down his nose at anyone that doesn’t know how to bait a hook or skin a buck. Then on “Beer Time,” Moore has recorded a song readymade for a beer commercial. It’s as though he’s replaced the word “Miller” with the word “beer.”

It seems since 9/11, the country music community has become very jingoisitic, and worse since Obama won in 2008.

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Reply About the Country Music of this decade-> (Original post)
PM Martin Jan 2013 OP
sadbear Jan 2013 #1
Ken Burch Jan 2013 #45
Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #2
tularetom Jan 2013 #3
riqster Jan 2013 #4
Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #5
Volaris Jan 2013 #12
pamela Jan 2013 #38
TlalocW Jan 2013 #53
Tempest Jan 2013 #28
lastlib Jan 2013 #44
Tsiyu Jan 2013 #6
Skidmore Jan 2013 #11
Tsiyu Jan 2013 #18
WCGreen Jan 2013 #19
Tsiyu Jan 2013 #21
WCGreen Jan 2013 #24
Tsiyu Jan 2013 #26
Boomerproud Jan 2013 #16
Tsiyu Jan 2013 #22
reformist2 Jan 2013 #31
DollarBillHines Jan 2013 #29
Tsiyu Jan 2013 #36
TM99 Jan 2013 #55
HughBeaumont Jan 2013 #7
RC Jan 2013 #8
WCGreen Jan 2013 #17
RC Jan 2013 #41
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Go Vols Jan 2013 #9
Aristus Jan 2013 #10
hughee99 Jan 2013 #47
maxsolomon Jan 2013 #13
Tikki Jan 2013 #14
WCGreen Jan 2013 #15
KT2000 Jan 2013 #20
NCTraveler Jan 2013 #23
onenote Jan 2013 #46
MightyMopar Jan 2013 #25
PM Martin Jan 2013 #50
alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #27
yourout Jan 2013 #30
mainstreetonce Jan 2013 #34
yourout Jan 2013 #35
LeftofObama Jan 2013 #43
yourout Jan 2013 #48
LeftofObama Jan 2013 #49
reformist2 Jan 2013 #32
yourout Jan 2013 #33
mainstreetonce Jan 2013 #37
yourout Jan 2013 #39
DearHeart Jan 2013 #40
Initech Jan 2013 #42
tularetom Jan 2013 #51
graham4anything Jan 2013 #52
TlalocW Jan 2013 #54

Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:06 PM

1. "Blue-collar" comedy didn't help either.

There's pride in being a redneck idiot.

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Response to sadbear (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:29 PM

45. Especially as practiced by "Larry The Cable Guy"...who ISN'T blue-collar(or Southern)

He's a wannaBubbabee.

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:17 PM

2. There's nothing country about country music anymore.

I have read some opinions and several of them point the finger at Garth Brooks as the beginning of the end.

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Response to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:24 PM

3. It ain't country and I'm not so sure it's music either

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Response to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:30 PM

4. Remember "Man, I Feel Like a Woman"?

It was a straight ripoff of Aerosmith's "Uncle Salty".

Country Music has become classic rock with nasal vocals.

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Response to riqster (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:36 PM

5. Boot Scootin Boogie! are you serious!?

The bar was on the ground after this.

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Response to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:17 PM

12. That, and Garth Brooks made it culturally ok to be a redneck idiot in America.

Small Towns don't HAVE to be populated with Small Minds. Modern Country Music isn't doing those people a whole lot of favors.

The song Merry-Go-Round ESPECIALLY pisses me off...even though I GET the message that it's trying to send (don't be as dumb as your parents, you CAN be smarter than that, but you have to WANT it. You have to SACRIFICE for it. Life won't GIVE it to you.)

The song pisses me off because, do you REALLY need to be told these things? Well, after the advent of Garth Brooks "it's cool to be a redneck" philosophy, yeah, you probably DO. The message it sends is REALLY good, it's like "HERE is your Problem. Right there, in your Face. What are you now going to do about it? OH. NOTHING? Well, then FUCK YOU.

And as a caveat, some of the lyrics could almost pass as folk-style pop-rock. It's just the STYLE that aggravates me I guess.

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Response to Volaris (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:17 PM

38. Garth Brooks is a Democrat

I know that's not really relevant to what you were saying, I just like to remind folks here from time-to-time that there are quite a few Dems in country music, like Garth, Trisha Yearwood, Faith Hill and Tim McGraw, Kathy Mateo, Roseanne Cash, Dixie Chicks...quite a few more. I especially like pointing that out to country music loving right-wingers. They are always shocked.

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Response to Volaris (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 12:42 AM

53. Garth is okay

I never thought of his as a redneck. I met the man, and he's very approachable and humble about his success. I helped program his first ever website (he's moving on to something different now). In an initial meeting with him and a couple of his people (in which I had been ordered by my boss not to say anything), I told him he needed to have video of him from, "Muppets Tonight," on the site. He smiled (while my boss face-palmed) and said that was the most fun he ever had on a tv show. That makes him okay in my book.

TlalocW

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Response to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:03 PM

28. Country went commercial and that was the beginning of the end.

Now it seems to be about whatever rage the hicks feel about the government.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #28)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:26 PM

44. When they started doing what rock-n-roll had done thirty years before....

...they lost me. (not that they ever really had me........)

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:52 PM

6. "New Country" is just bad Pop


with third grade level lyrics and a twang once or twice thrown in.

Trained monkeys could write "New Country" songs...and probably do.









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Response to Tsiyu (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:16 PM

11. Word! AND there are no radio stations which play the real stuff anymore either.

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:29 PM

18. I am spoiled

we have WSM, 650AM, which plays the Grand Ol Opry.

Last night they did a retrospective on Hank Williams - 60 years since his death - and it was wonderful listening to old broadcasts of Hank playing live for hours.

There's another FM station that plays classic country, and they have a great mix, out of Chattanooga, but can't remember the name.

The New Country makes me want to call drone strikes on my own radio.



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Response to Skidmore (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:30 PM

19. go after the Internet Radio Shows and search for Americana...

Good stuff from Steve Earle, Bonnie Ryatt, Nanci Griffith, Ryan Adams....

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:37 PM

21. True..hard to stream on dialup

But I love Americana stations and shows when I can find them.

They are still making good independent country and bluegrass music in Americanaland, but the big labels are just selling High Floofy Corny Syrup, and destroying the reputations of many a radio station.


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Response to Tsiyu (Reply #21)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:47 PM

24. Broadcast radio is there to bring as many people as they can to that spot on the dial...

The way to do that is to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

That's why all Pop Deva's sound the same, all baritone Cowboy Hat wearing dudes sound the same and all the boy bands that never seem to die all sound the same.

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #24)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:56 PM

26. I'm so old, I remember

when there were tons of independent stations playing great songs no matter what you liked.

There are about three music stations now, mass produced and blaring crap nationwide.

Everything's a racket, but there are more options if you don't need free, so radio stations suffer from their own lack of vision and creativity and local flavor.

I just hear New Country and want to cry for all the dollars wasted on that crap. The consumers are just buying garbage without seeming to care that there are "real goods" out there for sale...






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Response to Tsiyu (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:26 PM

16. We have a winner.

Even the old school icons (Parton, Jones, Lynn etc) think today's music sucks.

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Response to Boomerproud (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:41 PM

22. Welcome to DU



I waver between setting my clock radio with bad country or right wing talk shows. That way, I HAVE to get up to turn the crap off or I risk throwing up. Wakes me straight up with the awefulness and vapidity.





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Response to Boomerproud (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:05 PM

31. Links? I'd love to read more about what they think. :)

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Response to Tsiyu (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:05 PM

29. Taylor Swift made $25M last year

Singing oatmeal songs.

"Country Music" disgusts me.

I grew up listening to the X out of Piedras Mexico - Louisiana Hayride, Grand Ol' Opry and on and on.

This new stuff is so bad.

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Response to DollarBillHines (Reply #29)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:14 PM

36. A fool and his or her money and all that

Swift has a few decent songs, but she's a baby. And she's a Pop artist, not a country star, no matter what they say.

It really is so bad....








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Response to Tsiyu (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 01:26 AM

55. Thank you!

I have been telling my girlfriend that for years now. It started in the 70's and 80's being more 'pop' oriented but there was still a lot of old-timer's making some great country music during those decades. When the neotraditionalists movement started, I was quite pleased. But by the 1990's, I was moving away from what was on the radio to what was only being played locally.

I have been the most appalled by the rise of such 'country' stars (really pop singers!) like Kelly Clarkson & Taylor Swift. Swift was born in PA and moved to Nashville to be a 'star'. They now refer to her as a Tennessean, when she was not born there. Yeah, having been born in Knoxville, that chafes me a bit. Her bubblegum pop country is horrible.

I actually heard some out-takes and demos of one of her songs. Her voice had no, and I do mean, no twang whatsoever. Then I heard the album version. The engineers literally 'added' twang to her singing. Damn disgusting.

Give me the bluegrass and classic country now any day - Bill Monroe, Stanley Brothers, Tony Rice, Jerry Douglas, Ernest Tubb, Johnny Cash, Hank Williams Sr., Bob Willis, etc. I even like a lot of the Outlaw Country. Today I am enjoying the fusion of jazz and bluegrass going on in Nashville by such musicians as Victor Wooten and Bela Fleck, Doc Watson, and Sam Bush.

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:59 PM

7. "Nashville Music Factory" Country is SHITE.

Most of it has absolutely nothing in common with old C/W. Bunch of wingdings with twangs and a flag. They lost the mullets, but the mulletude never left.

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:02 PM

8. How 'bout this home grown guy?

 





(I much prefer Oldies -50/60's, to Country)

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Response to RC (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:29 PM

17. Blah Blah Blah....

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:01 PM

41. Well, OK.

 

The only reason I know about him, is he is from Missouri and I liked the song Pontoon.

Feel better now?

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:08 PM

9. .

They are nothing like Johnny Cash anymore.

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:14 PM

10. Modern country music exists so untalented people can have careers, too.

Yes, Toby (Kick Their Ass 'N' Take Their Gas) Keith, I'm looking at you.

You can kiss my ass, and suck the gas out of my anus, but that's about it...

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Response to Aristus (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:54 PM

47. Yes, unlike hip-hop and pop

where all the artists are talented musicians that sing about important issues.

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:23 PM

13. Rural defensiveness against Urban snobbishness

or southern defensiveness against northern snobbishness.

except there's not as much urban snobbishness as they think, at least not enough to justify the defensiveness & pride in willful ignorance.

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:25 PM

14. It must make the composer, lyricist and singer feel like they are doing protest music...

but great protest music poses a solution within...We might think of protest music as folk music..

But here is an example of non-folk protest song:


solution: "Tricky Dick, stop your shit, Tricky Dick, please quit..."


Tikki

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:26 PM

15. Commercial Country Music is pretty formulaic just as much as pop music...

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:34 PM

20. one thing for sure -

they are more American than everyone else - or do they say.
I find the lyrics of many of those songs very elitist.

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:45 PM

23. Yes, the whole country genre changed after Obama won in 2008.

That is truly funny.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #23)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:40 PM

46. +1

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:51 PM

25. Best propaganda in the world! Glorifies working for the minumum wage, guns, toxic relationships, etc

 

Actually is more deadly than Faux News. I could go on for days about how evil commercial country has become.

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Response to MightyMopar (Reply #25)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:10 PM

50. +1

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:02 PM

27. There's plenty of good alt country out there, like Old Crow Medicine Show and others

Is Big Time in the Jungle jingoistic?



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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:05 PM

30. About the only Country performer I can stomach is Brad Paisley.

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Response to yourout (Reply #30)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:11 PM

34. Brad

He said that he is so grateful that Obama will be the first president his kids remember.


That was brave. You can get Dixie Chicked for that.

He is a great guitar player and really funny. It is on my bucket list to see him in concert.

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Response to mainstreetonce (Reply #34)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:13 PM

35. Saw him last year with Scotty McReady and The Band Perry. Good show.

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Response to yourout (Reply #30)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:24 PM

43. I like that song of his about the kid in his parents basement

who is on the internet. I haven't heard it in a long time and I can't remember the name of it, but that song is hilarious!

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Response to LeftofObama (Reply #43)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:24 PM

48. This one....

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Response to yourout (Reply #48)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:44 PM

49. Yeah! That's the one!

I just crack up every time I hear that song!

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:08 PM

32. For those who don't know, here's an example of how country music *used* to sound.


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Response to reformist2 (Reply #32)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:11 PM

33. Here is a little Roy Clark

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:17 PM

37. If any of y'all

Don't want Zac Brown, I will take him home with me.

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Response to mainstreetonce (Reply #37)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:20 PM

39. Zac Brown I like....saw a crossroads special with Zac and Jimmy Buffet. Pretty good.

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:25 PM

40. Most of the "country" artists nowadays are really horrible! There are a couple who are really quite

good. The Band Perry, Josh Turner, Brad Paisley, and The Zac Brown Band, other than these, the rest are pretty much crap! Most of the artists from the "last century" are the ones with the talent, yet they cannot get airplay! They also can't get their albums promoted, so no one knows they're still making music. Unless you find them on FB or somewhere on the net. I know that they're all getting older, but come one...the Rolling Stones are still out there and they're almost 70!!

It's a shame. They throw out really talented people to give someone like Taylor Swift a career. All of her "music" sounds the same and I cannot stand her voice...makes my ears bleed!!

Guess this music is all about the tweens and teens too As if older people won't fork over any money for the CDs or downloads.

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:22 PM

42. I see your Justin Moore and I raise you Toby Keith - Cold Beer Country



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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:25 PM

51. There's still good music being made

But you'll never hear it on "country" radio.

Try this:



It tells a story that everybody can relate to and musically it's top drawer.

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:28 PM

52. Johnny Cash wrote about Zimmerman when he sang he shot a man in reno, just to watch him die

 

btw, Taylor Swift and Toby Keith are democrats.

And Alan Jackson listened to CNN back when CNN was democratic and not Fox
and his Where were you when the world stopped is perhaps the most democratic liberal song
there could be.

It took guts to mock those that picked up guns and wish one would all just have watched
I love Lucy reruns instead. (Lucy being a female way ahead of her time, and in a mixed marriage to boot).

It wasn't coincidental he sang those exact words he wrote.

And don't forget in the 1980s, Don Williams sang "I don't believe that right is right and left is wrong" in his I believe in you song.
Again, lyrics and singing so direct, nobody got they were putting them down.

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Response to PM Martin (Original post)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 12:50 AM

54. Whenever I visit my mom

I'm normally up late on my laptop, and she falls asleep in her easy chair tuned to a country "music" station. I swear, last visit, about 8 songs played with a male vocalist, and I couldn't tell them apart. Just the same fake overdone nasal twang. Finally, "El Paso," by Marty Robbins came on, and I exclaimed, "Oh, thank GOD!" loudly enough to wake mom.

I grew up listening to old country and not appreciating it because how many kids like what their parents do, but I've grown to appreciate Johnny Cash, Dolly Parton, Marty Robbins, etc. The one version of, "Stairway to Heaven," I can actually stand (that's not a parody like the one done by Rolf Harris) is Dolly's cover of it.

And speaking of Dolly... What the hell did Jolene look like that Dolly had to beg her not to steal her husband? Woo!

TlalocW

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