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Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:51 AM

 

Republicans are crushed because taxes will go up on people making over $450,000? Are they serious?

Who the fuck even makes that?

You would have to be a Congress member and have a lobbyist wife, or a Supreme court justice and a governor for a husband....

These are not normal salaries and we are talking about a very tiny percentage of the population.

How can the debate in this country be reduced to such stupidity?

How did we come to this?

And this fiscal cliff BS fixed nothing, we are still going to have to do something to get the money back from the 1%er looters, this is just absurd!

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Reply Republicans are crushed because taxes will go up on people making over $450,000? Are they serious? (Original post)
No Compromise Jan 2013 OP
madokie Jan 2013 #1
Voice for Peace Jan 2013 #2
HeroBrand Jan 2013 #3
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2013 #6
madokie Jan 2013 #7
No Compromise Jan 2013 #15
denverbill Jan 2013 #17
No Compromise Jan 2013 #38
Arkana Jan 2013 #26
Make7 Jan 2013 #41
Atticus Jan 2013 #42
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2013 #4
unblock Jan 2013 #5
yardwork Jan 2013 #8
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HeroBrand Jan 2013 #16
yardwork Jan 2013 #25
HangOnKids Jan 2013 #40
yardwork Jan 2013 #44
No Compromise Jan 2013 #9
No Compromise Jan 2013 #50
Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #10
No Compromise Jan 2013 #49
RomneyLies Jan 2013 #11
yardwork Jan 2013 #28
RomneyLies Jan 2013 #33
yardwork Jan 2013 #36
Enrique Jan 2013 #12
splat Jan 2013 #13
dennis4868 Jan 2013 #14
thelordofhell Jan 2013 #32
lonestarnot Jan 2013 #18
davidn3600 Jan 2013 #19
lonestarnot Jan 2013 #20
yardwork Jan 2013 #29
No Compromise Jan 2013 #35
duffyduff Jan 2013 #21
lonestarnot Jan 2013 #22
duffyduff Jan 2013 #23
JoePhilly Jan 2013 #31
Arkana Jan 2013 #24
No Compromise Jan 2013 #39
Flashmann Jan 2013 #27
No Compromise Jan 2013 #47
JoePhilly Jan 2013 #30
hughee99 Jan 2013 #34
No Compromise Jan 2013 #37
Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #43
No Compromise Jan 2013 #45
Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #46
butterfly77 Jan 2013 #48
samsingh Jan 2013 #51
AndyA Jan 2013 #52
OnionPatch Jan 2013 #53
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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:53 AM

1. a sad commentary on where we're at, huh

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:03 AM

2. "How can the debate in this country be reduced to such stupidity?"

When you put it that way.. so much angst on behalf of so few.. yeah.
kick and rec

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Response to HeroBrand (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:08 AM

6. What's wrong with the wealthy paying their fair share?

n/t

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Response to HeroBrand (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:09 AM

7. and that is our fight

"Many Republicans feel that the size of the government should be reduced as opposed to it ever increasing at the cost of the taxpayers." You wrote it, I wouldn't be proud of it

Some things the government can't be replaced at doing or providing and that's the programs the pukies want to cut first and deepest. F**k'm

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Response to HeroBrand (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:22 AM

15. you cannot demand tax cuts, while buying all kinds of crap like wars, Homeland Security etc

 


These assholes didn't get rich themselves by charging up a bunch of crap on their credit cards meanwhile eliminating their income to pay for it.

It makes no sense at all, it is not based in logic whatsoever.

This mentality is based on more for me me me, I want it all....

The movie Idiocracy sums it their attitude perfectly "Fuck you I'm eating"

Real conservatives(look to history) did not act like like bullies in second grade.

Eisenhower for instance, had taxes in the 90% bracket on top earners to pay off WWII because he was responsible and did not want to leave a pile of debt for future generations, meanwhile blaming them for the spending of the government.

Real conservatives would not just lie lie lie and hope to brainwash idiot followers into voting on behalf of 1%ers.

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Response to HeroBrand (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:23 AM

17. Yes but Republicans are incapable of reducing the size of government, as has been proven repeatedly.

So instead, they cut taxes and create massive deficits, then cry about the need to cut spending. They never make any attempt to cut spending themselves. Oh, occasionally they'll try to cut the deficit 10 years from now by privatizing Medicare or Social Security, but those efforts always fail miserably. Other than that they do NOTHING.

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Response to denverbill (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:43 PM

38. they are spoiled little brats, we have to make them stop wasting all our money on candy

 


The defense budget has more than doubled since Bush took office, the wars are supposedly over but the spending continues to rise.

We have to make them talk about the defense budget, they are just absurdly pointing at everything but the giant pink elephant in the room.

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Response to HeroBrand (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:32 AM

26. No they don't.

They're fine with a bloated defense budget, two unaffordable engagements in the Middle East and a government that makes laws about who you can and can't marry and who you can and can't have sex with. They just hate anything that involves helping the poor.

Republicans want to make government JUST small enough that it can fit in our bedrooms, and if you think otherwise you're deluding yourselves. The idea of "small government" is complete bunk.

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Response to HeroBrand (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:03 PM

41. If only we could use increased revenue to reduce the deficit or pay down the debt.

Many Republicans seem to think those are too large. It is unfortunate that the increased revenue from slightly higher taxes can only be used to expand the size of government.

It would be nice if a single Republican could put forth a coherent plan to do something about that which they constantly claim to be the problem (deficits and the debt).

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Response to HeroBrand (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:19 PM

42. "Many Republicans feel that the size of the government should be reduced as opposed to it ever

increasing at the cost of taxpayers."

How do YOU feel about that?

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:04 AM

4. It IS incredible

There are probably some friends and/or family members I know making +/-$100K but I don't even know anybody AFAIK who, alone or combined with another person, brings home $250K (or more). The fact that Republicans are wailing and gnashing over $400-450K just demonstrates how out of touch with reality they are with the average American. The more they overreact to stuff like this, hopefully, the more average people whom vote for them out of some misguided notions about the GOP and what they stand for will realize how out of touch they are with their reality and *maybe* think twice about voting for them again. The bottom line is that the Republicans are a 1% only club. Anything else they do or say is to ensure that they bring enough of the gullible low information/Fox News crowd and religiously obsessed voters along to form a big enough coalition to win elections. If we can start unhooking people from divisive social issues and/or get people to start thinking more critically, we will be able to drastically undermine the support the GOP (undeservedly) enjoys.

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:08 AM

5. this is the results of overconcentration of wealth and a supposedly democratic process.

the overconcentration of wealth means that the rich wield enormous influence over public policy.

the supposedly democratic process means that they still at least have to go through a visible, public process to get their way. so we see the ugliness. overconcentrations of wealth often lead to dictatorships where this sort of thing isn't even visible.

we're going to continue to get policies that heavily favor the ultra-rich unless and until we somehow reverse the overconcentration of wealth.

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:11 AM

8. Who pays for their reelection campaigns?

Who makes sure that the airwaves are saturated with ads in support of Eric Cantor instead of somebody else who would like his position? Who makes sure that his dirty secrets don't get exposed? Who owns the machines that count the votes?

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Response to yardwork (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:23 AM

16. .

 

You never saw an obama ad during campaign season?

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Response to HeroBrand (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:32 AM

25. Exactly! President Obama accepted millions in support from the banking industry, Wall Street,

Big Pharma, agribusiness, and lots of other huge corporate interests. That's why his policies are quite moderate.

You're new here so you may not know that I am a socialist, unlike President Obama.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #25)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:52 PM

40. He's Dead Yardie

I for one am crushed by the loss!

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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #40)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:28 PM

44. I figured. I just wanted to play with him for a little while.

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:15 AM

9. forgot the pic

 

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Response to No Compromise (Reply #9)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:52 AM

50. anyone know what this picture is from and have the video by chance?

 

nt

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:16 AM

10. It's really amazing if you look at the amounts involved. The increase is 4.6% on income over 400K

so the additional amount on each 100,000 over that mark is 4,600. That's what they are wailing about. That a person making $500,000 in a year will pay an additional $4,600 in tax. Chew on that one.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 04:13 PM

49. totally absurd

 

there just must be a way to shame them for acting so immature and selfish...

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:16 AM

11. Who makes that? Generally speaking it will be a few entrepeneurs and...

 

Senior management in the corporate world (VPs etc.).

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:36 AM

28. I suspect that relatively few people make exactly around $450,000. Most of the 1% make far, far more

It's the people making tens and hundreds of millions a year who control most of the wealth and power. A tiny fraction of the U.S. population who control more than 90% of the power and have our entire economy hostage.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #28)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:57 AM

33. You also have to realize

 

Many executives make around that much in earned income but are also compensated in ways that count as capital gains, and those earnigs are far more than earned income.

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #33)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:24 PM

36. Correct. That's long been a tax dodge for the privileged.

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:17 AM

12. it's a tactic

they complain no matter what, it helps them get more. As soon as they stop complaining, they stop getting stuff.

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:17 AM

13. This is their friends, their donors, their cronies, everybody but their voters! n/t

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:19 AM

14. Actually...

it went up on people making $400,000 and couples making $450,000.

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Response to dennis4868 (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:45 AM

32. Oh, well never mind then...............

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:25 AM

18. Oh yes they are.

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:25 AM

19. From what I've seen they are more angry that there were not any cuts to spending

All the right-wing sites are screaming that the country is going to collapse in the next decade because of the national debt.

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Response to davidn3600 (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:27 AM

20. Guess they should have thought of that before lying us into two wars on a credit card and then

cutting taxes for richie rich for 10 years plus.

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:37 AM

29. Seriously. Not a word about the deficit under the Bushes. Not a word.

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:03 PM

35. we need to ask them why we are spending more on Afghanistan now, than Iraq at it's height in 2004?

 


Defense budget keeps going up, more than doubled since Bush took office and no one in DC can see how this correlates with the debt?

Either they think we are incredibly stupid, or they are the stupidest fucking people on the planet and/or drunk before Congress even starts every day.

But there are millions of us suffering under the nonsense of these immoral blowhards, and I just can't take it anymore.

I can't stand to watch anymore people suffering because these moronic three year olds are running the nation.

We have GOT to DO SOMETHING!

It's like we are all just watching a bad movie that we can't turn off.

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:27 AM

21. How does this affect unearned income?

Bet it doesn't, and that is where the overwhelming amount of money going to the rich is from. It's taxed differently, and the rich ought to be socked to the max on it.

If anything, this compromise is nothing but a scam designed to con the people into thinking the rich will be paying their fair share.

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Response to duffyduff (Reply #21)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:28 AM

22. 20% on capital gains now.

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #22)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:30 AM

23. Should be a whole lot more than that

if one is above a certain income level.

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Response to duffyduff (Reply #23)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:41 AM

31. And it had been 15%.

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:30 AM

24. We must worship and adore the jerb creatorz

for they shall punish us if we inconvenience them.

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Response to Arkana (Reply #24)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:46 PM

39. and even if we give them everything they want and do everything they say

 

they will still punish us

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:34 AM

27. How can the debate in this country be reduced to such stupidity?

Apparently,it cannot be said enough times,or loudly enough,that damn near HALF of the general public IS stupid.....Extremely stupid,evidenced by the fact that 47% of them voted for willard,who said repeatedly,one way or another,that he intended to screw everyone,every way he could,who was not filthy rich......

What's that??....Racism was a factor??....Rascism is the highest order of stupity.....Certain segments of the "powers that be",have diligently worked for decades to ensure that stupidty...Defunding education at every turn...High School Civics,for instance....I went to school in a University town,class of '71,where,in theory,a premium was placed on education....I had Civics class in High School.......When my brother got there,4 years later,NO civics class....That's just ONE glaring example.......

This country is stupid......Very stupid......When you're out in public....Mall...Movie..Sporting event......Anywhere.....Look around......Almostevery other person you see,is a cretin......These folks know more about what Brittany Simpson,Jessica Spears,the Kardashian spawn and Snooki are up to,than the very basics of how Gov works,or should work....They know Justin Biebers bio front to back and can't name their own Lt.Governor,and expect to be taken seriously in political discussions....

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Response to Flashmann (Reply #27)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 03:39 PM

47. are we stupid? OR is it the bystander effect? Everyone thinks someone else will do something

 


Everyone is waiting on 'leaders' of which we are given a long line of limited hangouts who give in, and we are supposed to follow.

We are the ones we have been waiting for, but everyone is stuck in learned helplessness.

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:40 AM

30. They were unwilling to pass a bill that started at 1M.

A couple years back, the scoffed at starting at even 5M or 10M.

And yet they just caved and took a deal at 450K.

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:01 PM

34. Meanwhile, taxes will go up 2% for almost everyone and not a peep. n/t

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Response to hughee99 (Reply #34)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:16 PM

37. got those perks for corporations the Republicans aren't complaining about either

 

nt

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:21 PM

43. Yes, they're very serious..do not doubt them for a moment. n/t

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #43)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 10:25 AM

45. well then, why are we negotiating with lunatics

 


How did we devolve into this absurd stupidity?

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Response to No Compromise (Reply #45)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 02:02 PM

46. The demcocratic process began to unravel during the Reagan era and we are

no where near done with the influence, sadly.

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 03:56 PM

48. K&R..

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:53 AM

51. i bet Democrats, on average, make more than repugs

we are smarter and harder working.

i'm certainly paying a lot more in taxes because of the deal, and i don't mind one bit.

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Response to No Compromise (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:59 AM

52. Republicans are concerned that the "job creators" won't create jobs with higher taxes.

Of course, they didn't create any when their taxes were lower, either, so since they failed to uphold their end of the deal, their taxes should go back up.

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Response to AndyA (Reply #52)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:17 AM

53. I've heard a few rw'ers say

the people with the money will just "leave the country."

The rest of us will be left here with our fingers up our, well, you know...because we're just so incapable of creating an economy without them.

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Response to OnionPatch (Reply #53)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:40 PM

54. LOL--of course, we have an economy based on the middle class buying stuff

Without that ability, their isn't much of an economy.

Intelligent people at the top know their businesses will thrive when the middle class has money to spend. That creates demand, which creates jobs. The joke is that the top percent will just create jobs because they have less of a tax burden. Obviously, this isn't true. Demand creates jobs, and demand is on the light side now because so many are out of work, under paid, or working part time when they need full time.

Anyone in Congress who says otherwise is flat out lying to us.

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