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Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:04 AM

Renditions continue under Obama, despite due-process concerns

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/renditions-continue-under-obama-despite-due-process-concerns/2013/01/01/4e593aa0-5102-11e2-984e-f1de82a7c98a_story.html

The three European men with Somali roots were arrested on a murky pretext in August as they passed through the small African country of Djibouti. But the reason soon became clear when they were visited in their jail cells by a succession of American interrogators.

U.S. agents accused the men — two of them Swedes, the other a longtime resident of Britain — of supporting al-Shabab, an Islamist militia in Somalia that Washington considers a terrorist group. Two months after their arrest, the prisoners were secretly indicted by a federal grand jury in New York, then clandestinely taken into custody by the FBI and flown to the United States to face trial.

The secret arrests and detentions came to light Dec. 21 when the suspects made a brief appearance in a Brooklyn courtroom.

The men are the latest example of how the Obama administration has embraced rendition — the practice of holding and interrogating terrorism suspects in other countries without due process — despite widespread condemnation of the tactic in the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

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Reply Renditions continue under Obama, despite due-process concerns (Original post)
xchrom Jan 2013 OP
Electric Monk Jan 2013 #1
Bonobo Jan 2013 #2
msanthrope Jan 2013 #5
hootinholler Jan 2013 #3
msanthrope Jan 2013 #4

Response to xchrom (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:19 AM

1. Someone will be along shortly to ask why you hate America

Due process? That's so yesterday.

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:22 AM

2. No, it will be to remind him that...

A) He never like Obama anyway, or

B) That that "Nader thing" didn't work out so well, did it?

C) That Obama is not a dictator

D) That it is the Progressives own fault for not turning out in '10

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:41 AM

5. Explain to me how a federal indictment and an appearance in court with your attorney is not 'due

process?'

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:11 AM

3. This shit will not end well. n/t

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:39 AM

4. How is this either "secret" or "rendition?" They are under arrest, have appeared in court, and are

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currently facing charges pursuant to an indictment. They have attorneys, they are in federal lockup--indeed, I found them on the BOP website quite easily---you can write them at the Manhattan Federal Detention Center.


According to your article, the two Swedes were given consular assistance after arrest in Africa. The third is admitting he is a member of al-Shabab, but is not a British citizen.


What fucking irony, however, that these bastards support a justice system where women are stoned to death for sex....


“The woman admitted having out-of-marriage sex,” said an Islamist official who talked to the crowd after the stoning was completed.


“This type of punishments that are compatible with Sharia (Islamic laws) will be administered,” said the official


According to residents, the young woman was picked up from one of the neighbourhoods of the town, but there was no trace of the man partner involved in the alleged offence.


The judicial system of the Al-Shabaab is often criticised by rights groups for lack defence attorneys, proper evidences and harsh punishment, hastily meted out.




http://www.africareview.com/News/Al+Shabaab+order+woman+stoned+to+death+for+sex+offence/-/979180/1598708/-/p9bix4/-/index.html




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