Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:13 AM
Owlet (1,248 posts)
Right on, Ron Paul
No, I am not a Ron Paul supporter, but I completely agree with his position on the TSA.
"In a harshly worded attack on the Transportation Security Administration, which handles security screenings at U.S. airports, Ron Paul, known for his strident libertarian views, said the TSA 'gropes and grabs our kids and our seniors and does nothing to keep us safe.' <snip> On the campaign trial, Ron Paul has called for the abolition of the TSA on the grounds that it wastes taxpayer money and violates personal liberties." http://www.torontosun.com/2012/01/23/ron-paul-tsa-an-out-of-control-police-state Real security will be achieved when the airlines are once again in charge of protecting their property and their passengers. This is the way it is handled in Europe. In Schipol (Amsterdam) for example, the airlines do the security process AT THE GATE, so no long lines, no hassle. The personnel are polite and even-tempered, unlike some of the TSA types I've dealt with at Newark and, worse, JFK. More on Schipol here: http://www.securitydirectornews.com/?p=article&id=sd200904ao5v37
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18 replies, 1525 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Owlet | Jan 2012 | OP | |
| Scuba | Jan 2012 | #1 | |
| trumad | Jan 2012 | #2 | |
| peacebird | Jan 2012 | #3 | |
| Owlet | Jan 2012 | #6 | |
| Tunkamerica | Jan 2012 | #10 | |
| trumad | Jan 2012 | #12 | |
| cliffordu | Jan 2012 | #17 | |
| onethatcares | Jan 2012 | #4 | |
| jefferson_dem | Jan 2012 | #5 | |
| renegade000 | Jan 2012 | #7 | |
| kenfrequed | Jan 2012 | #8 | |
| redqueen | Jan 2012 | #9 | |
| Owlet | Jan 2012 | #14 | |
| redqueen | Jan 2012 | #15 | |
| Owlet | Jan 2012 | #16 | |
| geckosfeet | Jan 2012 | #11 | |
| renegade000 | Jan 2012 | #13 | |
| jorno67 | Jan 2012 | #18 |
Response to Owlet (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:18 AM
Scuba (26,788 posts)
1. Paul's right about a couple things and either wrong or crazy-wrong about the rest.
Response to trumad (Reply #2)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:24 AM
peacebird (7,510 posts)
3. gaack...! The mental image......!
Response to trumad (Reply #2)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:30 AM
Owlet (1,248 posts)
6. What a well thought out, articulate response
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Response to Owlet (Reply #6)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:37 AM
Tunkamerica (4,355 posts)
10. How bout:
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Fuck Ron Paul and his racist, homophobic, hypocritical, ridiculous ass.
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Response to Owlet (Reply #6)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:43 AM
trumad (34,450 posts)
12. Let me try it with a bit more thought.
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Fuck Ron Paul and his sycophant Douchebag PaulBots.
Better? |
Response to trumad (Reply #12)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:30 PM
cliffordu (29,441 posts)
17. Now you're talkin'!!!
Response to Owlet (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:25 AM
onethatcares (6,651 posts)
4. even a broken clock is right twice a day
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n/t
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Response to Owlet (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:25 AM
jefferson_dem (32,675 posts)
5. "No, I am not a Ron Paul supporter..."
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Last edited Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:26 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) ...
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Response to Owlet (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:32 AM
renegade000 (1,655 posts)
7. according to you own link
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it doesn't seem like Schipol is that different from US airports... they have the L3 millimeter wave scanners at several checkpoints, and it seems like they have even more cameras/surveillance. no information about what their pat-down practices are, but i can't imagine if you set off metal detectors they're just going to let you walk through unexamined.
i'm pretty skeptical that this isn't simply an attempt by Ron Paul and his son to simply exploit the unpopularity of the TSA to push their anti-goverment/ privatize everything agenda. |
Response to Owlet (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:35 AM
kenfrequed (5,277 posts)
8. I wouldn't endorse him for anything.
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His position on TSA concerns does not help any civil liberty arguments made regarding the TSA.
The only reason to post his opinion of the TSA is to elevate him by letting him glom onto the issue. Are you certain you aren't a Ron Paul supporter? |
Response to Owlet (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:36 AM
redqueen (102,517 posts)
9. If you're not a Ron Paul supporter
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then why isn't the subject line something like 'Abolish the TSA'?
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Response to redqueen (Reply #9)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:57 AM
Owlet (1,248 posts)
14. Good idea: that's what I should have done
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That's really the jist of the post, I thought.
I have a puppy that barks at any of her toys that squeak. It appears that some here on DU have the same reaction to the words "Ron Paul" I think it's called a Pavlovian Response: no thought involved, just bark. |
Response to Owlet (Reply #14)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:12 AM
redqueen (102,517 posts)
15. No, it's called seeing the big picture... you kiss a racists's ass, you should expect the backlash.
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Really not complicated.
I can spell it out for you in more detail and using smaller words if you need that. I trust you finally comprehend what's wrong with saying "Right on, (racist piece of shit) Ron Paul!" |
Response to Owlet (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:39 AM
geckosfeet (8,810 posts)
11. Ron Paul - tea party libetarian type.
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Last edited Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:39 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Would he advocate for no airport security and letting passengers and airport employees carry their own firearms for self protection?
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Response to geckosfeet (Reply #11)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:43 AM
renegade000 (1,655 posts)
13. more like:
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patdowns and Rapiscan backscatter systems are ok when private companies employ them!
it only becomes evil when government does it! |
Response to Owlet (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:36 PM
jorno67 (1,980 posts)
18. Ron Paul is just upset because the TSA tried to search his baby boy...
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But then again Rand is 49 years old
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/rand-paul-detained-refusing-tsa-pat-15427417 |

