| Author | Time | Post | |
| JFN1 | Jan 2012 | OP | |
| Angry Dragon | Jan 2012 | #1 | |
| JFN1 | Jan 2012 | #2 | |
| Angry Dragon | Jan 2012 | #3 | |
| rufus dog | Jan 2012 | #4 | |
| JFN1 | Jan 2012 | #7 | |
| PhoenixAbove | Jan 2012 | #8 | |
| rufus dog | Jan 2012 | #9 | |
| Ferretherder | Jan 2012 | #18 | |
| JFN1 | Jan 2012 | #20 | |
| jberryhill | Jan 2012 | #5 | |
| Rex | Jan 2012 | #6 | |
| jmowreader | Jan 2012 | #10 | |
| JFN1 | Jan 2012 | #11 | |
| jmowreader | Jan 2012 | #14 | |
| xfundy | Jan 2012 | #15 | |
| oh08dem | Jan 2012 | #12 | |
| JFN1 | Jan 2012 | #16 | |
| quakerboy | Jan 2012 | #13 | |
| madrchsod | Jan 2012 | #17 | |
| OnionPatch | Jan 2012 | #19 | |
| jmowreader | Jan 2012 | #21 | |
| FarLeftFist | Jan 2012 | #22 |
Response to JFN1 (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:22 AM
Angry Dragon (24,073 posts)
1. The list is way too long
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It would take years to read it
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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #1)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:31 AM
JFN1 (2,031 posts)
2. And this is the shorter list!!
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The bigger list is miles and miles longer of absolutely nothing!!!!
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Response to JFN1 (Reply #2)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:38 AM
Angry Dragon (24,073 posts)
3. The sad thing is that it was not always this way
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at one time both parties could work together
to make this country stronger and better That loss makes me sad |
Response to JFN1 (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:42 AM
rufus dog (4,944 posts)
4. define conservative
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T. Roosevelt had true conservation contributions, Interstate Highways system under Ike, EPA under Dick.
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Response to rufus dog (Reply #4)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:12 AM
JFN1 (2,031 posts)
7. I could just say "modern" conservatives...but..
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Your list isn't really "conservative," as it were..."conservation" is really a liberal and progressive sort of thing, for it preserves and protects Nature, rather than exploiting and spending it heedlessly...
The Insterstate Highway system - definitely a liberal idea - can you imagine conservatives today allowing such a thing? Interesting side note, Ike got the idea for the highway system while traveling across the country as a youngster in the army...bruised his butt up on all those horse trails evolved into shoddy roads, he did... And the EPA? Not really a conservative thing, given how conservatives have been trying to dismantle it pretty much since it's inception... |
Response to JFN1 (Reply #7)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:17 AM
PhoenixAbove (166 posts)
8. And our Post Offfice too!
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They're even trying to destroy the Post Office. Modern conservatives don't conserve anything. They're all about destruction.
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Response to JFN1 (Reply #7)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:21 AM
rufus dog (4,944 posts)
9. Don't disagree a bit
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With the modern day conservative take on things, just wanted to highlight where were are today as compared to 100 year ago and 50 years ago.
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Response to JFN1 (Reply #7)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:19 AM
Ferretherder (1,124 posts)
18. I may be wrong about this, but,...
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...I was always told that Ike got the idea for the interstate highway system from observing the 'Autobahn' highway system Hitler had built in Germany.
...jus' sayin'. |
Response to Ferretherder (Reply #18)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:01 AM
JFN1 (2,031 posts)
20. Actually, I've heard that, too...
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But I think (was more confident on this a moment ago) I remember reading a speech he gave in which he referenced traveling the terrible back roads in his youth and this experience led to his suggeston for the highway system. Of course, it was a long time ago that I read this, so who knows? I may be totally wrong...
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Response to JFN1 (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:06 AM
jberryhill (29,904 posts)
5. The Volkswagen
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Are we just doing the US? |
Response to JFN1 (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:08 AM
Rex (34,717 posts)
6. They
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The very first to ever ... Advances in ... Moving forward ... ...dam, I got nothing. |
Response to JFN1 (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:43 AM
jmowreader (23,958 posts)
10. Actually...
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I would put the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act and Occupational Safety and Health Act, all signed by Nixon, down as conservative contributions to society...with the proviso that in today's political climate, Nixon would be a moderate Democrat.
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Response to jmowreader (Reply #10)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:49 AM
JFN1 (2,031 posts)
11. A "conservative" who ends up doing a liberal or progressive thing
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doesn't really count as a "conservative" contribution - does it?
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Response to JFN1 (Reply #11)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:34 AM
jmowreader (23,958 posts)
14. I'd put it down as a conservative contribution
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Conservatives USED to not be as bad as they are now. Eisenhower built the Interstate Highway System, and he was a conservative for his time. (Today, like Nixon, he'd be a moderate Democrat.) Conservatives would spend money if there was a good reason, they'd regulate if there was a good reason, they would show up and work and they didn't want to destroy the government in order to save it.
The people we have now calling themselves "conservative" are right-wing bomb throwers. Imagine a right-wing version of Saul Alinsky or Bill Ayers, and you know what the people calling themselves "conservative Republicans" are. Imagine a right-wing, and white, version of Huey Newton or Bobby Seale, and you know what a teabagger is. |
Response to jmowreader (Reply #10)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:36 AM
xfundy (2,598 posts)
15. Well, they do still come up with NAMES that sound promising.
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But these days the bills with good sounding names do pretty much the opposite of what the title implies.
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Response to JFN1 (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:58 AM
oh08dem (207 posts)
12. 1,168 sheets of shit paper
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A.K.A. Atlas Shrugged
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Response to oh08dem (Reply #12)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:56 AM
JFN1 (2,031 posts)
16. Oh, snap!
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Way too funny!!!
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Response to JFN1 (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:23 AM
quakerboy (10,577 posts)
13. Im sure there are some good ones
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One of the problems we have today is that the conservatives and the liberals are all in one party. The Republicans have transcended such things, becoming instead a party of hate and fear backed by greed.
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Response to JFN1 (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:10 AM
madrchsod (55,757 posts)
17. conservatives have in the past contributed and still do today to the common good
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museums , the arts, parks, universities, hospitals , and research. charities both nation and international ,and various national foundations.
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Response to madrchsod (Reply #17)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:34 AM
OnionPatch (5,485 posts)
19. True, but if you pause to think about the damage they've caused
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by things like, say, fighting against civil rights, workers rights, environmental protection, then the net good they've contributed is below zero. Way below.
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Response to madrchsod (Reply #17)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:35 AM
jmowreader (23,958 posts)
21. And if the IRS didn't allow charitable contributions to reduce your tax bill?
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I read something many years ago that was pretty good...it was a banquet to thank the ten largest contributors to some charity, which I think was a hospital. Anyway, it was a worthwhile community fund and the ten largest contributors gave a shitload of money. At the banquet, each contributor was asked to give a speech honoring the reasons they gave the money. About half of them thanked God, some honored a special person who needed the services of the organization. The last guy got up and thanked the IRS because the room would be empty if you couldn't write off charitable contributions.
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Response to JFN1 (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:36 AM
FarLeftFist (6,161 posts)

