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Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:16 AM

Don't ever under estimate Joe Biden.

Yeah - he's that lovable uncle buying pies at Costco, posing with bikers in a restaurant, and yes - the man that whispers BFDs in the President's ear....

But when you want a bulldog - you call in Joe.
Whether it's to give a speech to the Firefighters.
To take down an uppity Eddie Munster with just a smile - okay - laughed in his face..
or to hold Mitch "One Term President" McConnell's hand and move it over to the left....

He deserves an appreciation thread tonite.

No, we didn't get everything we wanted.... but the gopers got even less ...
and that is called negotiating.



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jillan Jan 2013 OP
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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:21 AM

1. Never, ever, ever!!!!

Great picture by the way.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:24 AM

5. I was looking for another picture... no not that one ;) and came across this one.

It's a keeper.

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Response to jillan (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:25 AM

6. It just radiates COOL!

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 09:21 PM

64. And don't forget the Vice Presidential Debate! Grinning Joe showed us how to react to BS

What a performance that was after Obama's first failed debate.

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Response to pathansen (Reply #64)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 10:29 PM

74. And poor Ryan

There is no way he could compete with that! I almost felt sorry for him.............but then I came to my senses.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:21 AM

2. We all love Joe, jillan!

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:24 AM

4. Look at that body language! Hahaha. Joe is so smooth while he moves right into Mitchy's space.

thanx for posting.

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Response to jillan (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:26 AM

8. I was thinking the same thing

Very jovial intimidation!

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Response to jillan (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:11 AM

22. And there seems to be a big stick in Joe's right hand.

Or am I imagining it? I lurvve Joe.

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Response to Ineeda (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 10:35 AM

33. Oh my god, yes

It DOES look like he has a stick in his hand! "I don't want to use it Mitch, but we're running out of alternatives here Man."

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 09:48 PM

69. It's a shillelagh- or that's what I romanticize it is.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #69)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 10:32 PM

75. That's what it looks like to me too

"Speak softly and carry a big stick!" And wear a BIG grin too.

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Response to Ineeda (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 01:16 PM

38. OMG...It is!

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Response to Ineeda (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:41 PM

50. That looks like a baseball bat!

Dude wasn't messing around.


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Response to Ineeda (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 09:48 PM

70. maybe a shillelagh. I bit of the old Irish pluck.

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Response to Ineeda (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 10:55 PM

77. Looks like...

....one of those Keystone cop night sticks. Or maybe a skinny umbrella?

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Response to jillan (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 07:22 AM

25. LBJ-ish, almost. Except Joe does it with a smile, man, instead of a finger in the face.

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 01:14 PM

37. Joe's the man!

Happy New Year!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #37)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 04:56 PM

40. Happy New Year, She! Love your Brand New Sig Line

.. you clever girl!

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:18 PM

46. "Now, Now Mitchie...."

"Don't cry. Big boys don't cry. They just take their medicine like little men."

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:23 AM

3. Joe's a big fucking deal.

The best Veep in a long, long time... since LBJ. But Joe has much more charisma than LBJ.

Love him!

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:25 AM

7. K&R!

I have admired Joe for a long time - especially after this past election and especially after negotiating a deal that is something us Democrats can be proud of!

Even though he will be 73 in 2016, He is my first choice for President. He has a passion that is unbelievable, but can also govern when times are tough.

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Response to PennsylvaniaMatt (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:28 AM

9. He's definitely one of a kind

And unappreciated for the most part.

Best Vice President ever!

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Response to PennsylvaniaMatt (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 10:22 PM

73. Hey Matt - another PA-er here for Biden 2016.

He would make a great President.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:30 AM

10. Abso-fuckin-lutely n/t

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:53 AM

11. I love Joe...... nt

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:55 AM

12. The perfect complement to Barack Obama. A good team. (Although Obama could use more backbone)

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 04:28 AM

14. The President's BACKBONE is just FINE and so is

Bernie Sander's.

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Response to Cha (Reply #14)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:47 PM

52. Love you, Cha.

Just wanted to let you know that.

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Response to narnian60 (Reply #52)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:55 PM

55. ..

Thanks, narnian, and I see you're brand new here on the DU.. Welcome!

And, HAPPY NEW YEAR2013 in Houston, Texas!

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 04:34 AM

15. Agreed

But, it is what it is and it could be far, far worse.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:59 AM

86. I don't usually say much here, BUT


I have to say. Obama needs more backbone????????????

Excuse me. President Obama , is the bravest. man. alive.

He, being the first black president, puts his very life on the line each and every day for us. He gets more death threats by far than anyone.

He has been threatened, ridiculed, disrespected, and had basically every kind of dog manure thrown at him possible. And he has handled it all with grace that few could muster under the circumstances.

We are all entitled to our opinions, and mine is directly opposite of yours.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 04:26 AM

13. Joe Has Always Been My Choice...

...I would love to see him run in 2016. Never seen the man sweat...cool under fire, knowledgeable, charismatic, genuine.

He's a big fucking deal. A true American.

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Response to WiffenPoof (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:24 AM

30. I like Joe and all, but

are you kidding me with that never seen the man sweat statement? Wow!!!! His temper and passion is one of the things that makes him Joe.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 04:42 AM

16. Thank you for your hard work, Sir.

Happy New Year.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:12 AM

17. Yup!!!


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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:15 AM

18. He can get it done. Remember the Mraps? Remember Violence Against Women Act?

How many things has he done for this country and many he had to almost single-handedly fight to accomplish.

He's there for us. Always.

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Response to gateley (Reply #18)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:12 PM

57. He understands Obligation.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:19 AM

19. That's our Biden..



Coolest old guy in the business. Like a political Steve McQueen.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:04 AM

29. love the Steve McQueen simile

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:23 AM

20. McConnell is the one who asked for Biden to get involved

he wasn't getting anywhere with Reid, so he said, can we get someone we can deal with?

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:33 AM

21. VP Joe Mutha Fuc%$#@ Biden! Yeaaaaa booooooooy! nt

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:13 AM

23. loz@graphic! Perfect!

I love Joe Fucking Biden!

Julie

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 07:16 AM

24. pushing through a very bad deal doesn't make Biden a good guy....

the American people got screwed again and Joe helped

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 07:39 AM

28. Why? Do you make $400,000 a year? nt

 

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 07:26 AM

26. Do at your own peril

Joe has always been on our side. While Senator he traveled to and from his office to home by way of public transportation, in other words he IS one of us. Joe is the real deal.
Best Vice President ever.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 07:36 AM

27. I want to see Joe as VP for 16 years and set an alltime record-#1 VP of alltime

 

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #27)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 10:12 AM

31. I agree with you. I also love Joe Biden.

But, only if Hillary Clinton does not want the job. If not now, for God's sake, when? Isn't it amazing the amount of smarts and goodness that are in the Democratic Party? Not to mention the good looking men and women.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 10:15 AM

32. Smokin' Joe.

I guess Joe Frazier doesn't need the name anymore.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 10:40 AM

34. He is among the best of the best politicians

and to this old lady he's HOT!

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Response to lunatica (Reply #34)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 10:54 AM

35. another old lady here agrees with you! That first photo, aviator shades, worn leather

jacket and black turtleneck...some guys just know how to be cool. Jill Biden must be a happy lady...

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 12:30 PM

36. MSNBC just showed Vice President Biden heading up to the Hill

He has the aviator shades on! It's not even sunny in Washington today, but Joe Biden is just THAT cool!

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 01:24 PM

39. Thanks Jillan!

Joe deserves the appreciation!

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:02 PM

41. I have a love/not happy with feelings about him

Most of the time I think he is great. I just wish he would get off the pot is evil drug thing.

Something must have happened to someone he knows who smoked pot for him to take such a strong stance.

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Response to marlakay (Reply #41)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:17 PM

45. I agree - but at the same time he was the one that came out in favor of same-sex marriage that

turned the spotlight to the President to come out in support.


I don't know what his deal is on pot.
His dad was an alcoholic - maybe that clouds his thinking in some way???
He is so progressive in so many ways, but the "war on drugs" is one area where he has not evolved.

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Response to jillan (Reply #45)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:45 AM

85. My dad was alcoholic also but the way I look

At it is, some people have addictive personalities and no matter the drink or drugs will misuse.

For every person who is a stoner and doesn't work...I know tons of people who have great jobs and smoke pot on the weekend once in awhile, take or leave it.

For some reason Biden can't see that. He seems convinced by the ones who say it leads to harder drugs.

with big pharma passing out drugs legally to all by the zillions, that are so much worse, I just don't get why he would want to waste tax payer dollars pretending it's a big crime.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:08 PM

42. Oh, I've made that mistake before.

I actually thought he was little more than the genial, self-effacing buffoon he often appears to be. I believed that right up until he showed his teeth (literally and figuratively) in last fall's debate performance.

As a supportive spectator, my underestimation of Biden cost me no more than a little chagrin. I almost feel sorry, though, for opponents of his who've made the same miscalculation that I did.

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Response to Mister Ed (Reply #42)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:19 PM

47. The msm has done a good job on him, haven't they??? I actually heard someone on CNN say

that so far there has been no reports on Joe sticking his foot in his mouth during these meetings on the hill.

Seriously?!?!

Joe Biden is probably the most under appreciated politician there is.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:11 PM

43. Unleash the Biden!

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #43)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:19 PM

48. Love it!! He is so cool for an old white guy :)

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:17 PM

44. Joe is a BFD.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:39 PM

49. Thanks Joe, you are one of us always have been.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:44 PM

51. Love that man

 

Joe is the coolest but he also knows politics and is a great Democrat. Love him so much!

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:49 PM

53. i said this before and i will say it again...he's our guy in 2016

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:50 PM

54. I have to admit I was relieved to hear

He was coming in.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:07 PM

56. He's certainly very "HOT"....ha...

and about my age...oh tooo dream....lol

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:21 PM

58. And don't ever make underestimate two words

 

Just having fun. I agree 100%.

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Response to michigandem58 (Reply #58)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:36 PM

62. Ya know - when I typed it that way, I got that red line underneath it - so I separated it and

google chrome was happy.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:21 PM

59. CitiBank certainly never did, that's why they bought him.

 

Rather than telling us not to underestimate him, how about reminding people of what he's done in the past.

He's a very good politician, better than the President, IMO, but never forget that his agenda has nothing to do with you.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:30 PM

60. k&r for just the pic.

As part of the TN party leadership that heard him speak in 2006, the guy fuckin rocks.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:34 PM

61. K & R

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 07:32 PM

63. Joe

There's not many in our elite Senate Royalty that would commute to work every day on AMTRAK!

A humble and wise man of the people Joe is.

-90% Jimmy

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 09:29 PM

65. Joe Biden came to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And he's aaaaaaaaalllllllll outta bubblegum.

There's a good argument to be made that his shellacking of Paul Ryan was a crucial moment in the campaign.

Nobody serves as Senator for 30 plus years without knowing how to get shit done. The whole "Biden's a buffoon" thing is maybe good for the comics and pundits, but it ultimately works to his advantage, when he walks in and liquidates the room.



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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 09:32 PM

66. He's precious cargo!

- Leslie Snopes - Parks and Recreation

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 09:42 PM

67. I still remember

the enormous sense of relief I felt when he was tapped for VP. He's that rare elected official who wasn't born with any silver spoon in his mouth, yet has the respect of his colleagues.

And would be thrilled if he ran for Pres in 2016 - who could beat him? NO ONE!

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 09:46 PM

68. He's the last of the fighting Irish Democrats from way back when.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 09:50 PM

71. I love that pic!

Joe is really working that leather jacket and those shades. Joe Cool!

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 09:51 PM

72. No one that paid attention to drug warriors in the 80's would ever under estimate Joe Biden

 

Biden has sponsored more damaging drug war legislation than any Democrat in Congress.

"Hate the way federal prosecutors use RICO laws to take aim at drug offenders? Thank Biden. How about the abomination that is federal asset forfeiture laws? Thank Biden. Think federal prosecutors have too much power in drug cases? Thank Biden. Think the title of a “Drug Czar” is sanctimonious and silly? Thank Biden, who helped create the position (and still considers it an accomplishment worth boasting about).

Tired of the ridiculous steroids hearings in Congress? thank Biden, who led the effort to make steroids a Schedule 3 drug, and has been among the blowhardiest of the blowhards when it comes to sports and performance enhancing drugs. Biden voted in favor of using international development aid for drug control (think plan Columbia, plan Afghanistan, and other meddling anti-drug efforts that have only fostered loathing of America, backlash, and unintended consequences). Oh, and he was also the chief sponsor of 2004’s horrendous RAVE Act...



Biden’s record on other criminal justice and civil liberties issues is just as bad. Opponents of the federalization of crime might note that the 1994 crime bill he sponsored created several new federal capital offenses. Biden also wants to expand federal penalties for hate crimes. He supports a federal smoking ban. His position on the federal drinking age is, and I quote, “absolutely do not” lower it to 18. He believes “most violent crime is related to drugs” (if he had said “drug prohibition,” he’d be closer to the truth). Biden also has an almost perfect anti-gun voting record. He said last year he favors “universal national service,” either in the Peace Corps or the military. Sounds like conscription to me. He says he’s opposed to the PATRIOT Act, but he voted for both the original bill and its re-authorization in 2005.

Foreign policy? Biden voted for the war on Iraq. Yes, he’s opposed to it now (and I like the partition plan he pushed in the primaries). But he didn’t vote correctly when it counted most. Biden also voted to send troops into Darfur. He wants to enlarge NATO. He voted in favor of the air strikes in Kosovo (THE FIRST PNAC WAR). He voted to strengthen the trade embargo against Cuba. His seems to be a meddling, interventionist, Clinton-esque foreign policy. His first instinct seems to be that the U.S. military’s objective include some vague notion of “doing good in the world.” Never mind the disastrous consequences that notion has reaped over the years..."

http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/23/biden/

There's More "Joe Fucking Biden"!

But who is responsible for the administration's decision to prolong and even intensify the drug war, both domestically and abroad?

In a Rolling Stone article published last week, Tim Dickinson quotes a former White House official with intimate knowledge of the matter who claims that Vice President Joe Biden is a prime culprit:
"There are not many friends to legalization in this administration," says Kevin Sabet, director of the Drug Policy Institute at the University of Florida who served the White House as a top adviser on marijuana policy. In fact, the politician who coined the term "drug czar" -- Joe Biden -- continues to guide the administration's hard-line drug policy. "The vice president has a special interest in this issue," Sabet says. "As long as he is vice president, we're very far off from legalization being a reality."

The Huffington Post reached out to Biden's office for comment on Sabet's claim. It denied the request.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/11/joe-biden-drug-war_n_2279702.html

Joe Biden has already done plenty to the people of this nation. And if you want legal Cannabis but cheer Joe Biden, well... there's issues...


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Tue Jan 1, 2013, 11:11 PM

78. +1

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 11:13 PM

79. He has been an awesome VP, that's for sure! nt

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 11:45 PM

80. Joe was a fantastic choice for Obama's VP

I watched him take down some warmonger in a Senate committee hearing about the Iraq war during the Bush Junior administration. Joe leaned across the table and told the guy that he, personally, had a nephew in harm's way, and that he, the Senator and uncle, wanted to know ... etc etc etc. God, I wish I could remember details better, but it seared him into my memory as a man with genuine character, and I loved him.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 11:49 PM

81. ditto^ Joe was a fantastic choice for VP!

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Tue Jan 1, 2013, 11:54 PM

82. I was nervous about the first 2012 presidential debate but not the second one

I knew that Joe knew what he needed to do -- and that he would do it. Which he did.

I also said that if Biden wasn't Obama's VP pick, he wasn't really serious about winning.

BFD indeed.


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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:51 AM

83. Kick..Tell him and Obama to stick up for the

future SOS against our own and against their staunchest supporters.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:00 AM

84. Damn Right

 

And DURec!

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