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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:20 AM

I think it's safe to say that Citizens United is destroying the GOP.

Without these super pacs Mitt would have went on his merry way to the nomination with ease. Pumped in money gave Newt south carolina. The GOP is terrified of newt not only what a poor general election candidate he would be but also,he would cost the GOP the house and the senate.

Seems like the unlimited money they were looking for is kicking them in the teeth.

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Reply I think it's safe to say that Citizens United is destroying the GOP. (Original post)
deacon Jan 2012 OP
Art_from_Ark Jan 2012 #1
Scurrilous Jan 2012 #2
onethatcares Jan 2012 #12
tabatha Jan 2012 #3
Fridays Child Jan 2012 #4
deacon Jan 2012 #7
Thinkingabout Jan 2012 #5
deacon Jan 2012 #6
Thinkingabout Jan 2012 #8
tridim Jan 2012 #9
Lionessa Jan 2012 #10
sofa king Jan 2012 #11
onethatcares Jan 2012 #13
Vogon_Glory Jan 2012 #14
Kablooie Jan 2012 #15

Response to deacon (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:22 AM

1. Romney isn't much of a prize, either,

especially after his tax return fiasco and "$300 grand isn't so much" remarks. And he's probably lost the dog-lovers' vote, too.

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Response to deacon (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:36 AM

2. ‘Super PAC’ for Gingrich to Get $5 Million Infusion

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"A wealthy backer of Newt Gingrich will inject $5 million into a “super PAC” supporting his presidential bid, two people with knowledge of the contribution said on Monday, providing a major boost to Mr. Gingrich as he seeks to fend off aggressive attacks from Mitt Romney, his main Republican rival.

The supporter, Dr. Miriam Adelson, is the wife of Sheldon Adelson, a longtime Gingrich friend and a patron who this month contributed $5 million to the super PAC, Winning Our Future. Dr. Adelson’s check will bring the couple’s total contributions to Winning Our Future to $10 million, a figure that could substantially neutralize the millions of dollars already being spent in Florida by Mr. Romney and Restore Our Future, a super PAC supporting him.

Mr. Adelson’s initial check financed a barrage of negative ads against Mr. Romney in South Carolina, helping Mr. Gingrich to an upset victory in Saturday’s Republican primary there. But those attacks, which focused on Mr. Romney’s wealth and private equity career, also drew condemnation from many conservatives, who said Mr. Gingrich’s allies were undercutting free-market capitalism and amplifying class-warfare arguments being made by Democrats and Occupy Wall Street demonstrators.

In making the couple’s second $5 million contribution, Dr. Adelson expressed a wish to Winning Our Future officials that the money be used “to continue the pro-Newt message,” one of the people familiar with the contribution said, rather than attack Mr. Romney.

The Adelsons’ contributions on Mr. Gingrich’s behalf illustrate how rapidly a new era of unlimited political money is reshaping the rules of presidential politics and empowering individual donors to a degree unseen since before the Watergate scandals."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/us/politics/super-pac-for-gingrich-to-get-5-million-infusion.html

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Response to Scurrilous (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:22 AM

12. "winning our future" is a front

for casino gambling which wants something in sunny Floriduh. Want to make a bet on what they want?

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Response to deacon (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:38 AM

3. Citizens United = Republicans Disunited

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Response to deacon (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:40 AM

4. Wouldn't that be sweet?

As usual, people should be careful of what they wish for because they just might get it.

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Response to Fridays Child (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:48 AM

7. The GOP,they got it. And it could very well cost them all 3 branches in the upcoming election.n/t

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Response to deacon (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:41 AM

5. Interesting since so many GOP whines

About Democrat judge appointments ruling from the bench. Wonder if Allito thinks the ruling is the right one now. What a blessing, big money is now destroying the party they hoped to keep in power. Now let them eat each other up. Along with the clowns they are trying to elect.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:44 AM

6. And it's not over. Under these conditions most any candidate that makes it through the process will

be left in shreds. Torn to smithereens.

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Response to deacon (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:48 AM

8. Hey, wanna bet they will blame Obama

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Response to deacon (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:59 AM

9. I see them backfiring in the general election too.

The GOP SuperPAC ads attacking Obama will be CRAZY, and I think most Americans will be sickened by them.

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Response to deacon (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:43 AM

10. I don't know, I remember the 2008 Dem campaign got pretty

 

unbelievably weird, with Hillary going after the old, white, gun-tottin' groups, and some of that. But alas, not only did the nomination of Obama end most of the in fighting, somehow some of his worse critics ended up his best friends, seemingly.

Seems every election has some of this. And since no matter, it's all Republican or Conservative groups taking in all the money and spending it with other Republican corporations, y'know, I doubt anyone except the few true politicians (vs money whores) really care.

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Response to deacon (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 06:49 AM

11. There is a lot of fun going on right now.

The first thing to notice is that the money is a lot better at tearing someone else down than lifting one's self up in the polls. This encourages all candidates (I am not even going to play this bullshit game that the candidate's backers are not actually affiliated with their candidate) to focus on negativity, and doing as much damage as possible with well-timed and concentrated commercial assaults.

The extra money has created great volatility among the candidates, which in turn is propelling the GOP toward its own worst nightmare: a multiple-ballot convention. As long as there is enough money out there, the GOP candidates are playing a giant game of whack-a-mole, with the candidate emerging on top from the last round of negative smearing against someone else instantly becoming the target for the next round of smears.

And of course, since rich people insist on a return for their investment, the money is going to see its chance for a payoff by taking this thing to a convention. I think that about three-quarters of the money will actually be maneuvering in favor of a convention decision, since that will be the best way to keep their investments viable the longest, and give them the best chance of getting their guy in via the smoky back room even if he's been crushed by others' negative advertising.

Even better, I think it's unlikely that the eventual nominee will simply be able to walk away from the damage that has already been done to him. By the time the attack ads finally focus on President Obama, I'm going to guess that around six out of ten voters will have already decided in his favor thanks to this bloodbath circus.

The President will need only offer subtle reminders of what his opponent's peers said about him, while otherwise taking the high road. I believe that may make President Obama the primary beneficiary of all this money being blown.

That couldn't make me happier.



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Response to deacon (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:23 AM

13. actually it only proves that

rich white guys will beat each other up with money instead of getting into a cage match on public television.

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:51 AM

14. Clebrity Death Match! BRING IT ON!!! n/t

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Response to deacon (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:08 PM

15. Just wait for the presidential election.

I hasn't started working on the Democrats yet but it's about to.

We may not have any political parties left by the end of it.

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