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Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:06 PM

If America won't change its crazy gun laws... I may deport myself says Piers Morgan

By PIERS MORGAN
PUBLISHED: 19:26 EST, 29 December 2012

I have fired guns only once in my life, on a stag party to the Czech capital Prague a few years ago when part of the itinerary included a trip to an indoor shooting range. For three hours, our group were let loose on everything from Magnum 45 handguns and Glock pistols, to high-powered ‘sniper’ rifles and pump-action shotguns.

It was controlled, legal, safe and undeniably exciting. But it also showed me, quite demonstrably, that guns are killing machines.

Rarely has the hideous effect of a gun been more acutely laid bare than at Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, two weeks ago – when a deranged young man called Adam Lanza murdered 20 schoolchildren aged six and seven, as well as six adults, in a sickening rampage.

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In conclusion, I can spare those Americans who want me deported a lot of effort by saying this: If you don’t change your gun laws to at least try to stop this relentless tidal wave of murderous carnage, then you don’t have to worry about deporting me.

Although I love the country as a second home and one that has treated me incredibly well, I would, as a concerned parent first – and latterly, of a one-year-old daughter who may attend an American elementary school like Sandy Hook in three years’ time – seriously consider deporting myself.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254758/Piers-Morgan-Deport-If-America-wont-change-crazy-gun-laws-I-deport-myself.html

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Reply If America won't change its crazy gun laws... I may deport myself says Piers Morgan (Original post)
n2doc Dec 2012 OP
datasuspect Dec 2012 #1
CTyankee Dec 2012 #2
datasuspect Dec 2012 #3
CTyankee Dec 2012 #4
datasuspect Dec 2012 #5
CTyankee Dec 2012 #6
datasuspect Dec 2012 #7
CTyankee Dec 2012 #10
MADem Dec 2012 #32
Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #11
datasuspect Dec 2012 #12
Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #15
datasuspect Dec 2012 #16
cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #25
Hoyt Dec 2012 #30
Jenoch Dec 2012 #35
MADem Dec 2012 #33
Skittles Dec 2012 #27
NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #38
rrneck Dec 2012 #8
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #9
Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #13
datasuspect Dec 2012 #14
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #18
Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #19
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #20
Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #22
davidthegnome Dec 2012 #17
Skip Intro Dec 2012 #21
MADem Dec 2012 #34
Coyote_Tan Dec 2012 #23
MicaelS Dec 2012 #24
Midwestern Democrat Dec 2012 #37
HiPointDem Dec 2012 #26
alarimer Dec 2012 #28
Jenoch Dec 2012 #36
RomneyLies Dec 2012 #29
Hoyt Dec 2012 #31
djackson76 Dec 2012 #39
hughee99 Dec 2012 #40

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:16 PM

2. well, there is a classy response, I must say!

How cheesy is that?

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:17 PM

3. there's lots of binge drinking and knifeplay in the UK.

 

motherfuckers will come after you with hatchets and shit.

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:20 PM

4. Why don't you trust Piers? He's a Brit, isn't he? Why should I believe you?

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:22 PM

5. well, he's a posh brit

 

so he probably wouldn't mix with "those" kind of people anyway.

i'm sure he has enough money to provide an adequate security posture for his family here or in the UK.

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:24 PM

6. After seeing what you post, all is the more reason for me to trust Piers...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:27 PM

7. what, do you know his phone number or something?

 

how do you "trust" a television newsotainment host?

what is entailed within that concept for you personally?

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:40 PM

10. a lot more than is entailed with you.

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:54 PM

32. He's not posh--he's middle class, made rich with new money. He got it working for Rupert Murdoch.

He was up to his non-posh ass in that telephone scandal--he was once an editor for TNOTW--the newspaper (well, working-class tabloid, it was) that Murdoch bought, ruined, and threw under the bus in an effort to distract and mitigate.

I feel sorry for the Irish, because at some level they must claim the little prig, too--he's got some Fenian ancestry, as well.


Piers Stefan Pughe-Morgan (born Piers Stefan O'Meara; 30 March 1965), known professionally as Piers Morgan, is a British journalist and television host currently working in the United States. He is editorial director of First News, a national newspaper for children published in the U.K., and host of Piers Morgan Tonight on CNN, which he began hosting on 17 January 2011. The show replaced Larry King Live in the 9:00 PM timeslot after Larry King's retirement. He is a former judge on America's Got Talent. Morgan is also a former winner of The Celebrity Apprentice.

In the United Kingdom he worked as a writer and editor for several British tabloids, including The Sun, News of the World, and Daily Mirror, and was a judge on Britain's Got Talent. In November 2012 Morgan was criticised in the official findings of the Leveson Inquiry, when Lord Leveson stated that comments made in Morgan's testimony about phone hacking "clearly prove is that he was aware that it was taking place in the press as a whole and that he was sufficiently unembarrassed by what was criminal behaviour that he was prepared to joke about it"....Morgan is alleged to have close ties with the Rupert Murdoch family and defended them in the media against suggestions that they were more involved in the News International phone hacking scandal than they claimed.

During Morgan's tenure as editor, the Daily Mirror was advised by Steven Nott that voicemail interception was possible by means of a standard PIN code. Despite staff initially expressing enthusiasm for the story it did not appear in the paper, although it did subsequently feature in a South Wales Argus article and on BBC Radio 5 Live in October 1999. On 18 July 2011 Nott was visited by officers of Operation Weeting.

On 13 July 2011 the political blogger Paul Staines alleged that Morgan published a story while knowing it to have been obtained by phone hacking while editor of the Daily Mirror in 2002.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piers_Morgan

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:43 PM

11. Does the UK have more machete and hatchet deaths than the US has gun deaths per year?

Just curious. You seem to know a lot about machete and hatchet violence in the UK.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:46 PM

12. www.google.com

 

all i am willing to offer in this venue is anecdotal evidence.

do your own homework if it means that much to you.

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:59 PM

15. Couldn't find much information about machete and hatchet deaths in the UK

Methinks there ain't very many compared to gun deaths in the US.

Again, you seem to know a lot about UK hatchet deaths. Please set me straight, if you can.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:00 PM

16. i don't have that much invested in this

 

sorry, i use this tool for entertainment purposes.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:29 PM

25. The US wouldn't even be in the top 10 in violent crimes per 100,000 people in Europe.

US = 386.3 offenses per 100,000 inhabitants (a 4.5 percent decrease from the 2010 rate)

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #25)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:50 PM

30. Violent - like a punch in the nose? Or are we talking about a bullet in the head?

I'd much prefer to face a knife, than a previously law-abiding gun owner like Zimmerman or NRA President's gun wielding son. Heck, a staff is very effective against a knife.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #30)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:31 AM

35. I can tell you that cops are more afraid

of someone getting close with a knife than they are of someone with a gun. It is more than likely the perp will miss if he/she shoots. A knife blade will go through a kevlar vest, that's why they have a ceramic plate at the sternum.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #25)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:02 AM

33. We have a lot of people...and a lot of room to spread out.

In UK, people live closer together.

It would be interesting to see the death rate from violent crime in the assorted countries...

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:33 PM

27. I lived in England for years

and....no

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:44 AM

38. what a stupid, lame response.

I'm sorry, but surely you can do better than that.

Or, maybe there is no better response.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:30 PM

8. In the words of Bill Cutting

From the movie Gangs of New York

"Have a drink and shut up or shut up and get out".





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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:32 PM

9. What makes him think they will take him back?

He is scarcely beloved

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:46 PM

13. Who gets to decide if he can go back?

I thought he was born in the UK. I thought he could go back any time he wants without the approval of anyone.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:51 PM

14. your version deprives the situation of entertainment value

 

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:10 PM

18. He can return to the UK, but it may well not get a similar high profile media job

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:11 PM

19. At least he'll be safer

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:13 PM

20. The UK is safer than DC, but not as safe as say Utah.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:22 PM

22. The UK as a whole is safer than the US as a whole, especially when it comes to gun deaths

This is also the case with many other western European countries.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:00 PM

17. I'm all for sensible gun control

But I've never cared for Morgan. Maybe he just strikes me as too arrogant. I once watched him interviewing the Dalai Lama (SP?) and he frequently interrupted him in a way that struck me as both rude and conceited. Since then I've never really bothered watching his show.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:16 PM

21. What a self-absorbed buffoon. nt

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Response to Skip Intro (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:05 AM

34. He made fun of Dubya for falling off that Segway...called him an idiot, basically.

Then later, he fell off a Segway...and broke three ribs.

In 2007, Morgan was filmed falling off a Segway, breaking three ribs. Simon Cowell and others made much of Morgan's previous comment in 2003, in the Daily Mail, after former U.S. President George W. Bush fell off a Segway, that "You'd have to be an idiot to fall off, wouldn't you, Mr. President?"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piers_Morgan

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:23 PM

23. Buh bye...

 

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:28 PM

24. Don't let the door hit you in the ass Piers.

Planes leave the US several times a day for the UK.

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #24)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:40 AM

37. Agreed. There's something incredibly off putting about a resident alien making a lucrative living

in this country - and peeing all over it.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:30 PM

26. & i say: *please, please, please go, piers....*

 

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:33 PM

28. What I think is hilarious is the gun nuts elevation of the 2nd Amendment above all the others.

Including the 1st.

"We hate what you say, so you must be deported" is just shutting down the debate. They have no argument on their side so all they can do is stick their fingers in their ears and say, "Nah Nah! I can't hear you." The discourse by right-wingers and gun nuts is always "Shut up!"

The gun lobby has effectively blocked even scientific research into gun laws and their possible effects or lack thereof and tried (although I don't know if they've succeeded) in preventing the CDC from even collecting statistics, so blind is their devotion to their guns.

While I can't stand Piers Morgan, I think he's right here. Even if he's not right, he still has the right to say it, without being kicked out of the country. That's a really stupid reason to deport someone.

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Response to alarimer (Reply #28)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:35 AM

36. You know little about the 1st Amendment.

The 1st Amendment prevents the GOVERNMENT from restricting free speech. It has nothing to do with anybody else who does not like your speech.

Morgan is not being departed. Go back and re-read the story.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:36 PM

29. With any luck, Morgan will self deport

 

and the second amendment will be repealed within two weeks of that.

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #29)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:52 PM

31. There you go. I do credit Morgan for having guts to go up against hateful/callous gun culture.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 01:05 AM

40. Will he return to the country where he was hacking peoples phones for profit? n/t

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