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Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:38 AM

Yes, dears, it's official Winbloze H8 is worse than Vista.

I kid not.

People are buying Windows 8 at a slower rate than they did with Vista.

I'd go find copies of Windows 7 soon, before they take it off the market like they had to with XP.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9235059/Windows_8_s_uptake_falls_behind_Vista_s_pace?source=rss_keyword_edpicks&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+computerworld%2Fs%2Ffeed%2Fkeyword%2FEditorsPicks+%28Computerworld+Editors%27+Picks%29&google_editors_picks=true

"With just a week left in the month, Windows 8's usage uptake has slipped behind Vista's at the same point in its release, data from a Web measurement company showed.

According to Net Applications, Windows 8's online usage share through Dec. 22 was 1.6% of all Windows PCs, an uptick from 1.2% of November. Windows 8 publicly launched on Oct. 26."

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Reply Yes, dears, it's official Winbloze H8 is worse than Vista. (Original post)
originalpckelly Dec 2012 OP
ileus Dec 2012 #1
originalpckelly Dec 2012 #3
hobbit709 Dec 2012 #7
originalpckelly Dec 2012 #9
Festivito Dec 2012 #16
DCKit Dec 2012 #2
originalpckelly Dec 2012 #6
hobbit709 Dec 2012 #4
originalpckelly Dec 2012 #8
hobbit709 Dec 2012 #13
Pab Sungenis Dec 2012 #5
rbixby Dec 2012 #12
theKed Dec 2012 #21
KittyWampus Dec 2012 #22
2on2u Dec 2012 #32
theKed Dec 2012 #34
sendero Dec 2012 #10
rbixby Dec 2012 #11
GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #15
Hugabear Dec 2012 #14
Occulus Dec 2012 #17
mythology Dec 2012 #18
Aerows Dec 2012 #20
KittyWampus Dec 2012 #23
Hugabear Dec 2012 #30
KittyWampus Dec 2012 #33
Aerows Dec 2012 #19
Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2012 #24
Odin2005 Dec 2012 #25
msongs Dec 2012 #29
dogknob Dec 2012 #35
dorkulon Dec 2012 #26
arcane1 Dec 2012 #28
Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #27
Aerows Dec 2012 #31
Rex Dec 2012 #36

Response to originalpckelly (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:41 AM

1. So you're telling me not to utilize my "free" windows 8 upgrade.

Vista ME 95......all junk.

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Response to ileus (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:43 AM

3. 95 was OK...

it was 98 that really sucked. Mainly because Dll hell had reached a tipping point.

I hardly ever had blue screens on 95, but with 98 my computer had tons of blue screens.

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Response to originalpckelly (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:45 AM

7. 95 OSR2 was OK, the original one sucked if you had an AMD cpu.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:49 AM

9. See that's why you shouldn't have been a cheap ass and gone for a pentium.



We had the original and then because of computer shows, we ended up getting OSR2 semi-legally. I didn't really understand that's not how it was supposed to work, but hey we paid for it and everything.

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Response to originalpckelly (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:33 AM

16. My Windows 95 machine is still running behind me right now.

Runs 24/7. Only gets rebooted after power outages, months and months and months inbetween.

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Response to originalpckelly (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:42 AM

2. Who could have seen THAT coming? nt

 

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Response to DCKit (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:44 AM

6. I know, especially when they changed the UI that had been around for 17 years.

Of all the things I would change about Windows, how the taskbar works would not be one of them, nor the start menu.

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Response to originalpckelly (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:43 AM

4. Hell, I still have unopened copies of XP stashed, along with 7

And about 12 flavors of Linux that I can make a boot disk out of from the iso.

There are things about 7 that irritate me, but nowhere near the irritation level of Vista or 8.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:47 AM

8. Vista was bad because of how UAC worked in that version...

if you changed that, it was like butter.

Mind you, I only use Windows from time to time at home now that I have a Mac, but I use it regularly at work. It really pisses me off to see how shitty it became after XP.

XP was not great by any means, but I'd take Windows Fisher Price before iOS wannabe. Even when Apple fucked up Mac OS, they still didn't fuck it up that bad.

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Response to originalpckelly (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:54 AM

13. That and the fact a lot of drivers wouldn't work.

and stupid shit like hiding the Run command.
Plus the bloating on memory use.
One time I built 2 identical machines hardware wise. One had XP, one Vista. Guess which one outperformed the other on every test.

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Response to originalpckelly (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:44 AM

5. You don't change your UI without taking some risks.

 

The change from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 was shocking but welcome because it was a big improvement. Plus it was still similar in nature to the previous version (desktop with icons and windows).

Windows 8 completely takes everything that the Windows experience has stood for and thrown it out the window, no pun intended. No more desktop, no more menu, no more windowed applications. It's going back to the days of DOS and Desqview with a graphic interface to facilitate switching.

It's not "Windows 8," it's "Tiles 1." Or maybe we should call it what it really is, "Bob 2."

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:52 AM

12. There's still a desktop

And windowed applications. The only thing that's really different is the lack of the start menu and its replacement with the live tile screen.

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Response to rbixby (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:30 AM

21. Which is, at its core

functionally the same as the old start menu. Theres other stuff you *can* do with it, but not required by any means. You could strip out every live app and non-windowed program with no repercusions...easier than removing IE, really.

A lot of 8 hate seems to be garden-variety change-fear.

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Response to theKed (Reply #21)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:44 AM

22. From what I've seen though, visually it's incredibly cluttered. Having 20 colored files laid out on

a real world desk top is simply not as neat and efficient as having a filing cabinet with them hung vertically in one row.

To me, it's visual pollution to have that much information at once.

Normal Windows is like having, say, four file cabinets in each corner for certain subjects. You go the filing cabinet you need and pick the file you want in a more lineal fashion.

Edit- if I were redesigning the Tile Screen, I'd make them a bit smaller, rounded edge with frames… more like what you see on iTouch for instance or tablets. And also have a spot where you can swipe to other tile screens and move the tiles to other categorized screens.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #22)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 12:25 PM

32. Someone put this up a while back..... I run Linux so I don't have a use however this does seem

 

to be an interesting option for Windows users.

http://www.stardock.com/products/

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #22)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 06:09 PM

34. Ugh

Please, jeebus, dont let them make it look like that ios tripe. Size adjustment i could dig, though.

Its only as cluttered as you want it to be (the "all apps" page is a clusterfuck though)

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Response to originalpckelly (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:49 AM

10. Buy Windows 8..

.... if you need to upgrade Microsoft's slim chance to ever be a player in the cellphone OS marketplace.

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Response to originalpckelly (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:50 AM

11. I love Win8

Its a little different, but I think the interface actually works quite a bit better. The live tiles instead of the start menu, once you get used to it, work a lot better and its easier to organize, the OS starts a LOT faster, and as far as I can tell, its pretty much kickass. I think the thing most people have a problem with is the lack of the start button, but once you get used to the new UI, its a lot quicker and more intuitive.

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Response to rbixby (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:20 AM

15. Me, too, and you can download "start buttons".

There are several suggested programs at the Computers & Internet group. I installed the one from Pokki. I hardly ever use it. I find myself going back to the tiles far more often. I moved the programs I use most to the front, and they're a lot easier to get to than the crappy, nested START menu of the old versions.

The one thing I do hate about Win8 is the way "apps" are closed. Fine for a tablet, but it sucks for mouse/touchpad. Fortunately, I don't use many of them. One can still close programs like Word the usual way. And, speaking of programs, I am using 10-year-old XP-based software with Win8, and it seems to be working just fine.

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Response to originalpckelly (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:57 AM

14. I was one of the Windows 8 haters, until I actually started using it

I bought a new laptop that came with Win8, and I was prepared to hate it all the way. But once I started using it, I actually started warming up to it. As someone else pointed out, it boots up faster than previous versions. From what I've researched, Windows 8 security seems to be much improved as well. The interface does take a lot of getting used to, but it actually seems much more practical than what I've used in the past.

I just have to wonder how much of this "flop" has to do with all the knee-jerk negative reaction to such a different interface? I admit that I was one of those saying how it seemed like a horrible system.

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Response to Hugabear (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:38 AM

17. The reasons people are giving for why they don't like it

tell me they aren't really trying to use it, because their complaints are mostly already addressed, and they just don't know how to do XYZ thing.

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Response to Occulus (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:51 AM

18. People don't like change

But I think that those who have to call it Winbloze, wouldn't have anything good to say about it even if it were perfect.

I'm waiting to find a good deal on a touch screen laptop to get Windows 8. I don't really need a new computer yet although I'd like one. I'm expecting that CES will preview some good touch screen laptops.

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Response to Occulus (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:57 AM

20. I don't like the aspect of it

That it is essentially Microsoft Window. I've been using it for over 2 weeks now. Is it more usable than when I first got it? Yes. Do I like it? No.

I'm popping an ssd drive in it and putting Windows 7 on it. I find 8 to be unstable.

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Response to Hugabear (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:51 AM

23. Is there just the one tile screen? I'd be way happier having several tile screens

you could swipe to > or click to. Thus allowing categorizing what tiles are on what screens.

Having a screen full of large, ugly boxes with a multitude of functions/subjects/apps is simply a huge turn-off for me.

Can you change the size of the tiles/boxes on the screen and minimize them.

The reason iTouch doesn't bother me is the boxes are relatively smaller and I can organize them amongst several screens.

The Tile Screen looks to me like a game board with all those huge multi-colored boxes.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 12:18 PM

30. You can get rid of the ones you don't want/need

I don't know yet about resizing the tiles. I'm sure you can, because some of the ones are already larger than others. You can have as many or as few tiles on your screen as you like. In a way, it's not too entirely different from having icons on your previous Windows desktop screens, except that these are larger, and some can relay information in real time without having to click on them.

I bought the laptop for my wife, she's the one primarily using it. She really likes it so far - and she was just as opposed to Win8 as I was, if not more so. I haven't really had a chance to tinker around with it yet, but from my limited time thus far it seems that many of the criticisms are misguided.

Much of it simply has to do with how we're used to things, most of us don't really like dramatic change.

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Response to Hugabear (Reply #30)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 03:31 PM

33. I hope the next generation has ways to further customize those tiles. How they look and how they

place on the screen/screens.

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Response to originalpckelly (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:55 AM

19. Because it's horrible

I got a laptop with it. I've fought with it to make it usable, but it is crashy, and beyond that, Metro is the most annoying piece of crap I've ever encountered in an OS. I'm popping an ssd drive in there with Windows 7 on it. H8 is horrible.

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Response to originalpckelly (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:53 AM

24. Can they make Windows 9 just like the old win XP but with modern features

I liked XP

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Response to originalpckelly (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:56 AM

25. This is why their monopolistic practices are so bad.

They feel free to give us shit.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #25)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 12:11 PM

29. windows is not a monopoly, there are many alternatives nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #29)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 06:20 PM

35. Not really.

Mac? Does the same stuff Win does, but at 3 times the price?

Linux? Fantastic! Yay! Cool! Except no Adobe, no Ableton Live, no Reason, no ProTools, no Games, no nuthin'.

M$ knows all of this.

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Response to originalpckelly (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 12:05 PM

26. I'm sticking with 7 until they pry it from my cold, dead hands!

Seriously, it works and I'm tired of learning a new system every couple of years. It ain't broke, stop fixing it.

And my PC is not a phone.

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Response to dorkulon (Reply #26)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 12:08 PM

28. Heck, that's how I feel about XP!

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Response to originalpckelly (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 12:08 PM

27. Win8 is good on a tablet and not so good at first on a desktop.

Once you figure out how to get your win7 desktop back it is fine. There is lots of good new tech in win8, the new ui is going to take some getting used to.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #27)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 12:23 PM

31. I find it to be less than completely stable

We shall see if it is the hardware, my new laptop, or Windows 8. I'm popping a fresh ssd drive in there with 7 on it. Honestly, I don't think it's the hardware, because this is a nice little machine. I don't like the fact that it tends to hang on resume, and I have to close the cover again, send it into suspend and then resume it again. It's fairly annoying.

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Response to originalpckelly (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 06:22 PM

36. Not Vista...MILLENIUM!

Vista actually works now! No...let us compare Winduhz 8 to Bill Gates biggest failure (so far) WINDUHZ MILLENIUM.

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