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Sat Dec 29, 2012, 04:09 PM

Buried in Their Own Bullsh*t

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/12/28/101852/18

Buried in Their Own Bullsh*t

by BooMan
Fri Dec 28th, 2012 at 10:18:52 AM EST


As Politico correctly points out, there is a logic behind the Republicans' intransigent behavior. What's missing from their analysis, however, is any mention of the fact that the Republicans' created this logic themselves. It is true that gerrymandered districts have created a situation where the vast majority of House members have more to fear from a primary than from a general election against the opposing party, which makes it extremely painful to compromise with the other side. But the problem has been exacerbated by the unhinged rhetoric the Republicans used to demonize the president and his policies.

On Friday, Jan. 29, 2010, the president warned about this during his appearance at the House Republican retreat in Baltimore, Maryland. In responding to a question from Tennessee backbencher Marsha Blackburn, the president made the following observations in the context of the ongoing health care debate:

Now, you may not agree with Bob Dole and Howard Baker, and, certainly you don't agree with Tom Daschle on much, but that's not a radical bunch. But if you were to listen to the debate and, frankly, how some of you went after this bill, you'd think that this thing was some Bolshevik plot. No, I mean, that's how you guys -- (applause) -- that's how you guys presented it.

And so I'm thinking to myself, well, how is it that a plan that is pretty centrist -- no, look, I mean, I'm just saying, I know you guys disagree, but if you look at the facts of this bill, most independent observers would say this is actually what many Republicans -- is similar to what many Republicans proposed to Bill Clinton when he was doing his debate on health care.

So all I'm saying is, we've got to close the gap a little bit between the rhetoric and the reality. I'm not suggesting that we're going to agree on everything, whether it's on health care or energy or what have you, but if the way these issues are being presented by the Republicans is that this is some wild-eyed plot to impose huge government in every aspect of our lives, what happens is you guys then don't have a lot of room to negotiate with me.

I mean, the fact of the matter is, is that many of you, if you voted with the administration on something, are politically vulnerable in your own base, in your own party. You've given yourselves very little room to work in a bipartisan fashion because what you've been telling your constituents is, this guy is doing all kinds of crazy stuff that's going to destroy America.


And I would just say that we have to think about tone. It's not just on your side, by the way -- it's on our side, as well. This is part of what's happened in our politics, where we demonize the other side so much that when it comes to actually getting things done, it becomes tough to do.

Setting aside the superfluous and inaccurate both-sides-do-it-equally coda of that statement, the truth of his argument has never been more clear. The Republicans have painted themselves into a box. We are at the point, now, that the Speaker of the House does not have the ability to bring his caucus along to make any compromises on the budget. And the simplest explanation for this is that bullshit is responsible. The Republicans have fed their base so much bullshit that they've crippled themselves. They are now literally buried in their own bullshit. Bullshit about taxes and revenues, bullshit about climate change and the environment, bullshit about guns and ammunition, bullshit about socialism, bullshit about the character of the president, bullshit about immigration and terrorism.

They did it to themselves. I'd like to lend them a hand and help them shovel their way out, but I don't think they'll let me help. One of the reasons that I think a deal is in the best interests of the country (depending on details, obviously) is that it is the best opportunity, and maybe the only opportunity, we have to dismantle this dungheap.

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babylonsister Dec 2012 OP
russspeakeasy Dec 2012 #1
Cha Dec 2012 #2
sheshe2 Dec 2012 #3
Wellstone ruled Dec 2012 #4
spanone Dec 2012 #5
calimary Dec 2012 #6
coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #7
dawnie51 Dec 2012 #8
Neon2012 Dec 2012 #9
zeemike Dec 2012 #12
hue Dec 2012 #10
TahitiNut Dec 2012 #11
zeemike Dec 2012 #13
DRoseDARs Dec 2012 #14
cbrer Dec 2012 #15
krakfiend Dec 2012 #16
jmondine Dec 2012 #17
DCKit Dec 2012 #18

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 04:20 PM

1. My best read of the day...Thanks..

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 05:00 PM

2. Yes, indeedy, the republicons have

painted themselves into their own little vicious cycle, bullshit box. Where will it end?! This is what Kochs wrought.

Thank you, babylonsistah

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 05:13 PM

3. You are on fire today!

if the way these issues are being presented by the Republicans is that this is some wild-eyed plot to impose huge government in every aspect of our lives, what happens is you guys then don't have a lot of room to negotiate with me.


Please Proceed Sir!

A huge K&R

Thank you
She

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 05:16 PM

4. thanks for posting the

transcript from 2010. Best read of the day,have been searching for many of our Presidents remarks to the delusional Rethugs. Got to say,the man is really light years ahead of the Rethugs. Notice how the man schools the Ohio twit and then smacked her though the floor. Classic pure classic. You give the Stupid enough rope and they will tie themselves in knots with out any out side help.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 05:23 PM

5. marsha blackburn and her ilk have no grasp between the rhetoric and the reality.

she is one vile critter.

her district has been obscenely gerrymandered.

look at the map.....that's over 200 miles between memphis & nashville

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 05:26 PM

6. Great stuff, babylonsister! Thanks for finding this!

I still think President Obama has been FAR too nice and too reasonable to these bastards, who are in SERIOUS need of an attitude-adjustment and a political ass-whupping that lasts for a whole generation at least.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 05:35 PM

7. OT somewhat but in the early 70s, my Dad tired of the corporate rat race and

 

dropped out, buying a small dairy farm in SW Missouri.

As part of the 'back to the land' movement, my Dad was interviewed by a couple reporters for the now-defunct alternative publication Harper's Weekly.

"Why did you leave the corporate world for farm life?" the reporters asked.

"I prefer cowshit to bullshit," he replied matter of factly, with a completely straight face.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 05:37 PM

8. regarding the map...

seems pretty obvious that someone wanted Brentwood really, really badly. They sure went to extraordinary measures to tuck it into Blackburn's district. A visual that speaks mountains, not unlike here in Ohio.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 05:47 PM

9. Who are you babylonsister?

 

Your posts are always fantastic. Another great one here.

Made me laugh, yes out loud.

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Response to Neon2012 (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 06:56 PM

12. She is one of our shining jewels.

And she has posted things like this for years here on DU.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 05:55 PM

10. Thanks for posting this great read!!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 06:47 PM

11. The GOP has arrived at the top of their own Bullshit Mountain.

They have nowhere to go but DOWN ... even if some of them think they can make the mountain higher and keep climbing. Fewer and fewer folks, even the typical GOP ignoramus, regard it as the "high ground."


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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 06:59 PM

13. No they did it to us.

And it is not just stupidity...it is a plan.
The best way to destroy a government is to make it impotent...and that is exactly what they have done...the only thing left is to drag it to the bathtub and the drowning.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 07:00 PM

14. Conservatives aren't wrong about "drowning the govt. in a bathtub." Problem is, they are that govt.

Political tides ebb and flow, and parties are naturally subject to extinction. Fuck them, let them drown in their own bullshit like those that went before them.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 07:06 PM

15. By far the most significant expose'

 

To hit these pages in a while.

So what will it mean to the GOP base in terms of compromise and the future of our nation?

Time will tell...

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 07:08 PM

16. nice

Great article, keep it up

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 07:16 PM

17. I only disagree with one point:

They are not literally buried in their own bullshit. Most republicans don't even own male cattle.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 01:56 AM

18. Yes, THEY chose to frame these things as extreme.

 

Now everything is extreme.

Are they just looking for outsized recognition of the few things they're willing to pass?

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