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Sat Dec 29, 2012, 01:10 AM

So where are the Americans marching on the streets for OUR rape victims?



I've been hearing the news about the now-dead Indian gang rape victim. And how the streets of New Delhi & other cities were rocking with protests for days after the news was first out. Thinking about it, do you ever see such a thing in America? For example have you ever heard of college students rallying en masse with "Justice for ____" on campus and clashing with the cops after a student is raped?

I don't get it. While a gang rape in India generated a near Occupy Wall Street-like reaction in the streets nationwide, why aren't Americans marching in the streets demanding justice for our women? Because there's no such thing as an Indian Rush Limbaugh/Fox News/RW patriarchy noise machine that's out to slut-shame and play the "false accusations/women cry rape/b_tches be lying" card? (In fact Rush Limbaugh actually dared to call the Duke rape accuser a "ho" before it was revealed she lied.)

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Reply So where are the Americans marching on the streets for OUR rape victims? (Original post)
alp227 Dec 2012 OP
liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #1
Brother Buzz Dec 2012 #2
hopemountain Dec 2012 #3
Xithras Dec 2012 #4
exboyfil Dec 2012 #5
alp227 Dec 2012 #6

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 01:12 AM

1. we're not allowed to talk about rape

Even the mere mention of it sends guys into a tantrum saying not all men are rapists.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 01:23 AM

2. It wouldn't interest anybody outside of a small circle of friends

OUTSIDE OF A SMALL CIRCLE OF FRIENDS
By Phil Ochs

Oh, look outside the window
There's a woman being grabbed
They've dragged her to the bushes
And now she's being stabbed

Maybe we should call the cops
And try to stop the pain
But Monopoly is so much fun
I'd hate to blow the game

And I'm sure
It wouldn't interest anybody
Outside of a small circle of friends




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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 01:26 AM

3. well, maybe because we already marched

on take back the night all across our country. were you there? your are right on & i hope you will use your passion and righteous indignation to organize a march of solidarity for the rape somewhere near you or all across the nation.

but, at this time, i think many rape survivors, such as myself, have other things on our minds. 1) i have to dig out from the snow but the snow shovel broke and i don't have money to go get another one; 2) worried about keeping a roof over our heads; 3) and some food on the table and; 4) where to scrounge some money for an rx copay... 5) oh, and the car is over due for an oil change and; 6)there isn't enough to pay the $40 to get the snow tires put on.

and lots of other things going on across our nation right now that have our attention. survival type things.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 01:48 AM

4. Pretty fundamental difference between the U.S. and India

In the U.S., when a young woman is pinned down, beaten, and brutally raped by at least six men, you can be relatively sure that the men are going to prison if they're caught.

In India, there is no such assurance. A woman accusing a man of rape in India is MORE likely to see her family run out of town than they are to see any sort of justice. Local governments and police forces in India are incredibly corrupt (incomprehensibly so to many Americans), and rape is often treated as an "everybody does it" kind of crime by many in law enforcement. Even in cases where the police may be interested in pursuing an attacker, religious and social pressure, often shaming the victim, regularly forces cases to be dropped.

The problems with the American system are NOTHING compared with the hell that Indian rape victims face every single day. THAT is why they are marching and protesting.

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Response to Xithras (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 04:14 AM

5. I agree

If you read the comments section in The Times of India you would be shocked. The comment was that the women should never have been on the bus, and it was basically her fault. Even the son of the leader is tone death.

We did have a case in which folks took to the street and protested (but it was not violent). Remember the Duke lacrosse case.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 09:03 PM

6. Regarding Duke I think it was more because of the victim's race than the crime.

Think also about the Trayvon Martin marches that came up after the local cops wouldn't arrest the man who shot Martin to death.

Oh, news website comments sections = Idiocracy.

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