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Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:36 PM

National Rifle Association vows to fight arms trade treaty at U.N.

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National Rifle Association vows to fight arms trade treaty at U.N.
By Louis Charbonneau | Reuters 12 hrs ago.. .


UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The leading U.S. pro-gun group, the National Rifle Association, has vowed to fight a draft international treaty to regulate the $70 billion global arms trade and dismissed suggestions that a recent U.S. school shooting bolstered the case for such a pact.

The U.N. General Assembly voted on Monday to restart negotiations in mid-March on the first international treaty to regulate conventional arms trade after a drafting conference in July collapsed because the U.S. and other nations wanted more time. Washington supported Monday's U.N. vote.

U.S. President Barack Obama has come under intense pressure to tighten domestic gun control laws after the December 14 shooting massacre of 20 children and six educators at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut. His administration has since reiterated its support for a global arms treaty that does not curtail U.S. citizens' rights to own weapons.

Arms control campaigners say one person every minute dies as a result of armed violence and a convention is needed to prevent illicitly traded guns from pouring into conflict zones and fueling wars and atrocities.

In an interview with Reuters, NRA President David Keene said the Newtown massacre has not changed the powerful U.S. gun lobby's position on the treaty. He also made clear that the Obama administration would have a fight on its hands if it brought the treaty to the U.S. Senate for ratification.

"We're as opposed to it today as we were when it first appeared," he said on Thursday. "We do not see anything in terms of the language and the preamble as being any kind of guarantee of the American people's rights under the Second Amendment."

The Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects the right to bear arms. Keene said the pact could require the U.S. government to enact legislation to implement it, which the NRA fears could lead to tighter restrictions on gun ownership.

He added that such a treaty was unlikely to win the two-thirds majority in the U.S. Senate necessary for approval.

"This treaty is as problematic today in terms of ratification in the Senate as it was six months ago or a year ago," Keene said. Earlier this year a majority of senators wrote to Obama urging him to oppose the treaty.

U.N. delegates and gun-control activists say the July treaty negotiations fell apart largely because Obama, fearing attacks from Republican rival Mitt Romney before the November 6 election if his administration was seen as supporting the pact, sought to kick the issue past the U.S. vote.

U.S. officials have denied those allegation.

The NRA claimed credit for the July failure, calling it at the time "a big victory for American gun owners."

NRA IS 'TELLING LIES'

The main reason the arms trade talks are taking place at all is that the United States - the world's biggest arms trader, which accounts for more than 40 percent of global transfers in conventional arms - reversed U.S. policy on the issue after Obama was first elected and decided in 2009 to support a treaty.

Supporters of the treaty accuse the NRA of deceiving the American public about the pact, which they say will have no impact on U.S. domestic gun ownership and would apply only to exports. Last week, Amnesty International launched a campaign to counter what it said were NRA distortions about the treaty.

"The NRA is telling lies about the arms treaty to try to block U.S. government support," Michelle Ringuette of Amnesty International USA said about the campaign. "The NRA's leadership must stop interfering in U.S. foreign policy on behalf of the arms industry."

Jeff Abramson of Control Arms said that as March approaches, "the NRA is going to be challenged in ways it never has before and that can affect the way things go" with the U.S. government.

The draft treaty under discussion specifically excludes arms-related "matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any State."

Among its key provisions is a requirement that governments make compliance with human rights norms a condition for foreign arms sales. It would also have states ban arms transfers when there is reason to believe weapons or ammunition might be diverted to problematic recipients or end up on illicit markets.

Keene said the biggest problem with the treaty is that it regulates civilian arms, not just military weapons.

According to the Small Arms Survey, roughly 650 million of the 875 million weapons in the world are in the hands of civilians. That, arms control advocates say, is why any arms trade treaty must regulate both military and civilian weapons.

Keene said the NRA would actively participate in the fight against the arms trade treaty in the run-up to the March negotiations. "We will be involved," he warned, adding that it was not clear if the NRA would address U.N. delegates directly as the group did in July.

The NRA has successfully lobbied members of Congress to stop major new gun restrictions in the United States since the 1994 assault weapons ban, which expired in 2004. It also gives financial backing to pro-gun candidates.

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http://news.yahoo.com/national-rifle-association-vows-fight-arms-trade-treaty-061206196.html

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Response to backtoblue (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:07 PM

1. is this a joke?

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Response to samsingh (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:29 PM

4. more of a nighmare i'm afraid nt

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Response to backtoblue (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:29 PM

5. the nra is deluded about their importance on the world stage

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Response to samsingh (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:34 PM

6. and the most disgusting part of this

is that at a time of world unrest, they want to push weapons to maximize their profits. they do not care who gets hurt or dies in this country or abroad. i wonder how much stock these guys have in military weapons that are sold to foreign countries. it sure seems that they're not advocating for peace, whatever their agenda may be.

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Response to backtoblue (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:45 PM

7. agreed

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Response to backtoblue (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:08 PM

2. a terrorist lobby group

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Response to spanone (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:59 PM

10. Yup. Aiding and abetting home-grown terrorists.

I can't think of a bigger, more powerful threat to "homeland security" right now than these mofos.

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Response to backtoblue (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:24 PM

3. Where I live I have heard so many gun toting rednecks

using this "fear" factor that the UN is after their guns it really isn't funny. You can't even talk to them about it - literally they say "we is Amerikan and they can take our guns from our cold dead hands."

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Response to backtoblue (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:48 PM

8. OH REALLY!? Are they going to let Wayne LePew speak in front of the general assembly!?!?

Pleasepleasepleaseplease...

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Response to Rex (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 06:32 PM

15. will he look like this?

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Response to farminator3000 (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 10:19 PM

17. I hear he brought in a real pro, NRA spared no expense!


"Speaker, I and Mr. Pew never had human flesh so everything else is invalidated by law. Long live the BFEE!"

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Response to Rex (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 06:33 PM

16. "Never before have so many looked at their translators in confusion...."

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Response to Robb (Reply #16)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 10:22 PM

18. Another all pro, paid top wages.


"The UN has no respect for law and cannot touch my bullpup."

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Response to backtoblue (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:56 PM

9. I know reporters are supposed to be objective, but I think they can do better than:

"The Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects the right to bear arms."


Because international readers do deserve to read that little part about "a well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State."

Anyway, the idea of the UN approving a treaty that would in any way have a negative effect on NRA Incorporated is going to have a lot of paranoid knickers in a twist here.

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Response to Chorophyll (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:09 PM

12. and so many skip over the "well regulated" part as well. nt

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Response to backtoblue (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:21 PM

14. It's just an epic lack of information. Makes me nuts. nt

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Response to backtoblue (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:04 PM

11. The NRA is no longer a group supporting hunters and target shooters.

They are whores for the gun makers. That's all.

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Response to backtoblue (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:15 PM

13. Gotta keep those gun manufacturers happy!

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